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10/7/2011 3:33:00 PM
On Oct 6, 4:42 pm, "Barb May" <barb...@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote:
> Ubiquitous wrote:
> > On Wednesday in New York City there was another far-left demonstration
> > as a bunch of people marched on Wall Street. Why? We aren't exactly
> > sure.
>
> The Wall Street protests don't have a clearly defined set of goals
> because they are not an astroturf creation like the teabaggers.
>
> > What we do know is that these folks are zealots who are being
> > organized by some very interesting people. Does the name MoveOn.org
> > mean anything to you? How about George Soros? Well, for the first
> > time MoveOn, funded in part by Soros, has openly allied itself with
> > the protesters.
>
> Ah, the old guilt by association smear: MoveOn says they support the
> protests. MoveOn is funded in part by George Soros. Therefore George
> Soros is organizing the protests.
>
>
>
> > In addition, we have some unions in the mix: the United Auto Workers,
> > the United Federation of Teachers and, of course, the always reliable
> > SEIU. Of course not all workers in those unions support bringing down
> > capitalism.
>
> Earlier Bill said, "We aren't exactly sure" why people are protesting.
> Now he's sure it's about "bringing down capitalism."
>
> > They don't. But their leadership is certainly sympathetic
> > to the demonstrators.
>
> So union leadership wants to bring down capitalism too?
>
> > But again, what do these people want?
>
> You just said they wanted to bring down capitalism.
>
>
>
> > The common thread seems to be "income equality."
>
> No, the common thread is anger at what Wall Street and the Banks have
> gotten away with and what they are liable to do in the future if they
> aren't stopped.
>
> > Groups like the
> > Working Families Party and the Strong Economy for All Coalition are
> > basically socialistic outfits.
>
> Again with the old guilt by association smear.
>
> > They want the government to take money
> > away from the affluent and give it to them, a nice deal if you can
> > get it. And you can get it in places like Cuba and Zimbabwe.
>
> > The big money behind these protesters, Soros, he doesn't want
> > socialism.
>
> Soros contributes to MoveOn so that means he is the boogyman behind
> anything that MoveOn endorses.
>
> > Soros is the biggest capitalist on the planet. He wants
> > power and these groups are using the far-left zealots to try to
> > achieve that.
>
> So the biggest capitalist on the planet is trying to bring down
> capitalism because that'll make him more powerful?
>
>
>
> > On Wednesday the protesters issued a statement: "[We want to] voice
> > our belief that the American dream will live again, that the American
> > way is to help one another succeed. Our voice, our values, will be
> > heard."
>
> > The key phrase there is "to help one another succeed." But these
> > people are not asking for voluntary help. They want to take stuff by
> > force if necessary.
>
> Like the government does already through regulation and taxation.
>
> Here again Bill claims to know exactly what they want after he has said
> repeatedly that he's not sure what they want.
>
>
>
> > It is true the far-left is very disappointed with President Obama
> > because he has not been radical enough. Mr. Obama rightly knows the
> > vast majority of Americans do not want socialism, and while some of
> > his programs are designed to redistribute income, the president knows
> > he would be politically doomed if he threw in with these hard-core
> > radicals.
>
> So Obama won't make the same mistake as Republicans have with the
> teabaggers.
>
> --
> Barb
there are three levels of decay in conservatism, first off, you get a
conservative revolution that implements their unworkable, strange,
even scary policies. the second happens when the first fails, as it
always does. the second is the drive for purity, its libertarian
fundamentalism, a harder more pure drive to get the polices working.
this to will fail, which will lead to conservatism's eventual ultimate
decay, the third level, fascism, where the conservatives,
libertarians, and fundamentalists will turn to their ayn rand fascist
superman to right all of the wrongs.