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Tony Toews

3/8/2012 3:52:00 AM

Folks

Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
an unzip into a folder.

Any suggestions for a code only solution or such a control?

Tony
55 Answers

unknown

3/8/2012 4:02:00 AM

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"Tony Toews" <ttoews@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> Folks
>
> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
> an unzip into a folder.
>
> Any suggestions for a code only solution or such a control?

What do you want to use it for? Just for displaying data, or also editing?
Data bound or not?



Tony Toews

3/8/2012 4:24:00 AM

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On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:02:14 -0500, "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

>What do you want to use it for? Just for displaying data, or also editing?
>Data bound or not?

Also editing. Hmm, might be nice if it had a command button or some
other means of clicking to "drill down" the data and open another
form.

Data bound I don't think so. This will be filled from/updated to a
remote SQL Server so I suspect I will have to fill the grid control
myself. But I've never used a grid control in VB6 so I have no idea
how they work.

Tony

Dee Earley

3/8/2012 9:08:00 AM

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On 08/03/2012 03:52, Tony Toews wrote:
> Folks
>
> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
> an unzip into a folder.

Are you assuming they already have the VB runtimes installed?

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Tony Toews

3/8/2012 4:42:00 PM

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On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:08:12 +0000, Deanna Earley
<dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote:

>> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
>> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
>> an unzip into a folder.
>
>Are you assuming they already have the VB runtimes installed?

If you mean the ones that come with the OS since Windows 2000? Yes.

Tony

Dee Earley

3/8/2012 4:59:00 PM

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On 08/03/2012 16:42, Tony Toews wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:08:12 +0000, Deanna Earley
> <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
>>> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
>>> an unzip into a folder.
>>
>> Are you assuming they already have the VB runtimes installed?
>
> If you mean the ones that come with the OS since Windows 2000? Yes.

Not natively, they MAY be included by apps that were installed with
windows or the OEM but they are not "distributed with Windows".
Vista was the first OS to actually include the runtimes with the base
install since it needed special versions for compatibility.

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Tony Toews

3/8/2012 5:19:00 PM

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On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 16:58:52 +0000, Deanna Earley
<dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote:

>> If you mean the ones that come with the OS since Windows 2000? Yes.
>
>Not natively, they MAY be included by apps that were installed with
>windows or the OEM but they are not "distributed with Windows".
>Vista was the first OS to actually include the runtimes with the base
>install since it needed special versions for compatibility.

I didn't realize that. When I took a look on my clean VMs I built
with MSDN OSs they were there so I assumed that they'd be present for
all versions of the OS.

That said I'm not sure that makes a difference for me. I included a
link so folks could download the VB6 runtime but I've never heard from
anyone that they needed.

Hmm, no I did hear from someone a number of years back where the IT
department had removed it as they thought it would be a security risk.
As my utility was free then I really didn't care too much. <smile>
Now, due to threads in this newsgroup, I know I can do manifest stuff
and include the runtime in the same folder as the VB6 exe.

Tony
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Tim Rude

3/8/2012 5:28:00 PM

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"Deanna Earley" <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 08/03/2012 16:42, Tony Toews wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:08:12 +0000, Deanna Earley
>> <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
>>>> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
>>>> an unzip into a folder.
>>>
>>> Are you assuming they already have the VB runtimes installed?
>>
>> If you mean the ones that come with the OS since Windows 2000? Yes.
>
> Not natively, they MAY be included by apps that were installed with
> windows or the OEM but they are not "distributed with Windows".
> Vista was the first OS to actually include the runtimes with the base
> install since it needed special versions for compatibility.
>
>

Umm, this support doc begs to differ. Says VB runtimes were part of the
'Files Shipping in Windows' for 2000 forward.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudi...

Mike Williams

3/8/2012 6:11:00 PM

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"Deanna Earley" <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Not natively, they MAY be included by apps that were
> installed with windows or the OEM but they are not
> "distributed with Windows". Vista was the first OS to
> actually include the runtimes with the base install

According to Microsoft the VB6 runtime was included with Win 2K and Win XP
and is still included with all later versions up to Win8. It is certainly
present by default in all copies of XP that I have installed myself on
various machines.

Mike



MikeD

3/8/2012 9:44:00 PM

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"Deanna Earley" <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 08/03/2012 16:42, Tony Toews wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:08:12 +0000, Deanna Earley
>> <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Looks like I'm going to need some kind of simplish grid control.
>>>> However I do not want to have to do any kind of admin install. Just
>>>> an unzip into a folder.
>>>
>>> Are you assuming they already have the VB runtimes installed?
>>
>> If you mean the ones that come with the OS since Windows 2000? Yes.
>
> Not natively, they MAY be included by apps that were installed with
> windows or the OEM but they are not "distributed with Windows".
> Vista was the first OS to actually include the runtimes with the base
> install since it needed special versions for compatibility.
>

No, you're mistaken about that. Win2000 and WinXP included them too, as
several others have already mentioned. I'm just adding on for strength in
numbers (we ALL can't be mistaken about that) <g>. Now, Vista and Win7 (and
I think WinXP too) included later versions than the "standard" SP6 version
(the one installed by the service pack and available for download by MS) and
those versions do fix some compatibility problems and (as far as I know)
should NOT be redistributed to any other version of Windows. Therefore, if
you ARE going to redistribute the runtime files, you should distribute the
files from the SP6 (or I suppose SP5) service pack. You should really only
have to worry about updating them on Win2000 because I *think* those were
pre-SP6 versions. I wish MS's DLL database was still around because that
told you exactly what version of DLLs were included with MS products (not
just Windows, but all MS software).

--
Mike


Tony Toews

3/8/2012 10:07:00 PM

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On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:43:50 -0500, "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> wrote:

> I wish MS's DLL database was still around because that
>told you exactly what version of DLLs were included with MS products (not
>just Windows, but all MS software).

Various MS groups did a lousy job of updating the DLL database and
many versions were missing, even from within the same product group.
So in a sense it was quite mileading.

Now if MS had kept it accurate and up to date then great.

Tony