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Low Importance: Get Year from Date

x-rays

3/20/2007 9:47:00 AM

Hello Experts,

Which of the following statements is best to use?:

select datepart(year,getdate())

OR

select year(getdate())

Thanks in advance!
44 Answers

Razvan Socol

3/20/2007 9:52:00 AM

0

I would choose "select year(getdate())", because it's faster to type.

Razvan

AnsumanSahu

3/20/2007 1:50:00 PM

0

The YEAR function is synonym for DATEPART(yy, date)

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Mitchell Holman

2/7/2013 1:58:00 PM

0

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-0602132212570001@67-150-123-
14.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article <XnsA15FD66CCC8A6nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> news:Jason-0602131755080001@67-150-124-214.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>
>> > In article <hlwdjsd2-C33347.17292806022013@news.giganews.com>,
Jeanne
>> > Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article
>> >> <Jason-0602131546090001@66-53-214-111.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >> > > Are you too lazy to understand the term "military grade
>> >> > > weaponry"?
>> >> >
>> >> > That is why I asked you what weapons you are referring to?
>> >> >
>> >> > For example--If you were referring to civilians owning a F-16
>> >> > fighter jet? the answer is NO
>> >>
>> >> Why not?
>> >
>> > Because they are not needed.
>>
>>
>> Ditto for AR 15s
>
> I believe we do need them in case America is invaded.



Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
was invaded in 1814.

Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
was invaded in 1862 and 1863.

Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
was invaded in 1916.


Just when can we expect privately owned guns to
make a military difference?

tirebiter

2/7/2013 2:04:00 PM

0

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-0602131511360001@66-53-214-111.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article
> <995ae699-3591-41ff-9dd9-0bd57e9b3da7@u21g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>,
> Devils Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5 Feb, 23:18, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <ceb4adca-37a5-4af5-9827-71b98e636...
@e18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On 5 Feb, 17:27, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > In article
>> > > > <f46a36dd-4e4b-4041-a236-81242a6b3...
@y9g2000vbb.googlegroups.co
>> > > > m>, D=
>> evils
>> >
>> > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > On 4 Feb, 23:24, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > > > In article <uhdvg8tjahiai6sfrngrgavmo79i8fm...@4ax.com>,
>> > > > > > duke
>> >
>> > > > > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:24:42 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com
>> > > > > > > (Jason) wr=
>> ote:
>> >
>> > >http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-c...
mo
>> > >re...
>> > > > > > > >> In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle
>> > > > > > > >> but
>> > 496 murde=3D
>> > > > > rs
>> > > > > > > >committed
>> > > > > > > >> with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in
>> > > > > > > >> which a
>> > shotgun wa=3D
>> > > > > s
>> > > > > > > >the deadly
>> > > > > > > >> weapon of choice.
>> >
>> > > > > > > >> Heeheehee.
>> >
>> > > > > > > >Thanks. There was a picture in today's newspaper showing
>> > > > > > > >Obama
>> > shootin=3D
>> > > > > g a
>> > > > > > > >SHOTGUN while skeet shooting. The picture was taken
>> > > > > > > >August 4, =
>> 2002.
>> >
>> > > > > > > >The SHOTGUN is NOT considered to be an assault weapon so
>> > > > > > > >would
>> > not be =3D
>> > > > > banned.
>> >
>> > > > > > > Neither are the guns used at Newtown. =3DA0Playing games
>> > > > > > > with c=
>> lip
>> > capaci=3D
>> > > > > ty is a
>> > > > > > > joke. =3DA0Now they're pushing the idea that the shooter
>> > > > > > > droppe=
>> d
>> > his firs=3D
>> > > > > t reload.
>> > > > > > > Hence everybody shot after a 10-clip reload mistake would
>> > > > > > > still
>> > be aliv=3D
>> > > > > e.
>> >
>> > > > > > > >That means Obama's gun control plan would NOT stop
>> > > > > > > >future
>> > murders from
>> > > > > > > >happening.
>> >
>> > > > > > > The dukester, American - American
>> > > > > > > ********************************************
>> > > > > > > You can't fix stupid.
>> > > > > > > ********************************************
>> >
>> > > > > > I agree that making it illegal to sell 20 round clips is a
>> > > > > > stupid=
>> idea
>> > > > > > that will not save any lives. Most anyone could quickly
>> > > > > > change cl=
>> ips. It
>> > > > > > took some practice but I learned to very quickly change
>> > > > > > clips in =
>> my
>> > > > > > Mini-14 rifle. I no longer own it and still miss it.
>> >
>> > > > > High capacity clips aren't necessary for personal or home
>> > > > > defence.
>> >
>> > > > It's still an infringement on our rights.
>> >
>> > > > Would you be in favor of placing limits on the 60 Minutes
>> > > > staff? For example, I believe they should show less programs
>> > > > slamming conservati=
>> ve
>> > > > members of Congress or Rush Limbaugh.
>> >
>> > > Jason, you keep trying to compare your right to possess firearms
>> > > to other rights which don't endanger other people.
>> >
>> > > Tell me, if you can, where it says in your precious constitution
>> > > that ordinary civilians have the right to possess military grade
>> > > weaponry.
>> >
>> > We have already discussed this issue. The AR-15 rifle is a
>> > semi-auto rifle. It looks quite a lot like the military M-16 rifle.
>> > As we have discussed, the M-16 rifle is both a semi-auto rifle and
>> > a fully automatic rifle.
>> >
>> > You may have a point about the handgun used in the military. I
>> > don't know if it is =A0or is not possible to buy that exact same
>> > handgun. It is not =
>> a
>> > fully auto. pistol. It's a semi-auto handgun. I believe it is
>> > called the Beretta M-9. I don't believe it is made in America.
>>
>> You've not addressed my inquiry.
>>
>> Where in the constitution does it say civilians have the right to
>> possess military grade weaponry.
>>
>> Your evasive waffle shows you haven't got a leg to stand on.
>
> What weapon are you referring to?
>
> In general, the constituition does NOT mention weapon types. You
> should know that.
>
>
>

Then they obviously meant only the types of guns available in 1789.
That would be single shot, flintlock muzzleloaders.

---
a.a. #2273

tirebiter

2/7/2013 3:03:00 PM

0

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-0602132212570001@67-150-123-
14.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article <XnsA15FD66CCC8A6nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> news:Jason-0602131755080001@67-150-124-214.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>
>> > In article <hlwdjsd2-C33347.17292806022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> > Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article
>> >> <Jason-0602131546090001@66-53-214-111.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >> > > Are you too lazy to understand the term "military grade
>> >> > > weaponry"?
>> >> >
>> >> > That is why I asked you what weapons you are referring to?
>> >> >
>> >> > For example--If you were referring to civilians owning a F-16
>> >> > fighter jet? the answer is NO
>> >>
>> >> Why not?
>> >
>> > Because they are not needed.
>>
>>
>> Ditto for AR 15s
>
> I believe we do need them in case America is invaded.
>
>
>

And so far your list of reasons to justify assault weapons is:

1. Defend against an unknown invasion from an unknown enemy for unknown
reasons.
2. <end of list>

That isn't good enough for the real item 1 on that list, which is:

1. It's the weapon of choice for mass murderers.

---
a.a. #2273

tirebiter

2/7/2013 3:13:00 PM

0

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-0602132340520001@66-53-219-233.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article
> <f55f916d-e74d-4d50-958e-707de7622278@r8g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
> Devils Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 7, 12:02=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <016e4928-6cd3-4f4c-be67-04d738731...
@e10g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On 6 Feb, 23:46, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > In article
>> > > > <d567edbd-240a-4e61-a76b-a902e994a...
@o5g2000vbp.googlegroups.co
>> > > > m>, D=
>> evil=3D
>> > > s
>> >
>> > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > On 6 Feb, 23:11, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > > > In article
>> > > > > > <995ae699-3591-41ff-9dd9-0bd57e9b3...
@u21g2000vbo.googlegrou
>> > > > > > ps.co=
>> m>,
>> >
>> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 23:18, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > > > > > In article
>> > > > > > > > <ceb4adca-37a5-4af5-9827-71b98e636...
@e18g2000vbv.google
>> > > > > > > > group=
>> s.co=3D
>> > > m>,
>> >
>> > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 17:27, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > In article
>> > > > > > > > > > <f46a36dd-4e4b-4041-a236-81242a6b3...
@y9g2000vbb.goo
>> > > > > > > > > > glegr=
>> oups=3D
>> > > .com=3D3D
>> > > > > >, D=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > evils
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > On 4 Feb, 23:24, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > In article
>> > > > > > > > > > > > <uhdvg8tjahiai6sfrngrgavmo79i8fm...@4ax.co=
>> m>, =3D
>> > > duke
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:24:42 -0800,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ja...@nospam.co=
>> m (J=3D
>> > > ason=3D3D
>> > > > > ) wr=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > ote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > >http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fb...
c
>> > > > > > > > >lubs-=
>> kill=3D
>> > > -mor=3D3D
>> > > > > e...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> In 2011, there were 323 murders committed
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> with a=
>> rif=3D
>> > > le b=3D3D
>> > > > > ut
>> > > > > > > > 496 murde=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > rs
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >committed
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> with hammers and clubs. There were 356
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> murders i=
>> n wh=3D
>> > > ich =3D3D
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > shotgun wa=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > s
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >the deadly
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> weapon of choice.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Heeheehee.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks. There was a picture in today's
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >newspaper s=
>> howi=3D
>> > > ng O=3D3D
>> > > > > bama
>> > > > > > > > shootin=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > g a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >SHOTGUN while skeet shooting. The picture
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >was take=
>> n Au=3D
>> > > gust=3D3D
>> > > > > =3DA04, =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > 2002.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >The SHOTGUN is NOT considered to be an
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >assault wea=
>> pon =3D
>> > > so w=3D3D
>> > > > > ould
>> > > > > > > > not be =3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > banned.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither are the guns used at Newtown.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0Pl=
>> aying =3D
>> > > games =3D3D
>> > > > > with c=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > lip
>> > > > > > > > capaci=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > ty is a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > joke. =3D3D3D3DA0Now they're pushing the idea
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > that =
>> the sh=3D
>> > > ooter =3D3D
>> > > > > droppe=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > d
>> > > > > > > > his firs=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > t reload.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence everybody shot after a 10-clip reload
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mistake=
>> wou=3D
>> > > ld s=3D3D
>> > > > > till
>> > > > > > > > be aliv=3D3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > > > > > e.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >That means Obama's gun control plan would
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >NOT stop=
>> fut=3D
>> > > ure
>> > > > > > > > murders from
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >happening.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The dukester, American - American
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't fix stupid.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that making it illegal to sell 20 round
>> > > > > > > > > > > > clips=
>> is =3D
>> > > a st=3D3D
>> > > > > upid=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > =3D3DA0idea
>> > > > > > > > > > > > that will not save any lives. Most anyone could
>> > > > > > > > > > > > quick=
>> ly c=3D
>> > > hang=3D3D
>> > > > > e cl=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > ips. It
>> > > > > > > > > > > > took some practice but I learned to very
>> > > > > > > > > > > > quickly chan=
>> ge c=3D
>> > > lips=3D3D
>> > > > > =3DA0in =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > my
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Mini-14 rifle. I no longer own it and still
>> > > > > > > > > > > > miss it.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > High capacity clips aren't necessary for personal
>> > > > > > > > > > > or ho=
>> me d=3D
>> > > efen=3D3D
>> > > > > ce.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > It's still an infringement on our rights.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > Would you be in favor of placing limits on the 60
>> > > > > > > > > > Minutes=
>> sta=3D
>> > > ff? =3D3D
>> > > > > For
>> > > > > > > > > > example, I believe they should show less programs
>> > > > > > > > > > slammin=
>> g co=3D
>> > > nser=3D3D
>> > > > > vati=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > ve
>> > > > > > > > > > members of Congress or Rush Limbaugh.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > Jason, you keep trying to compare your right to
>> > > > > > > > > possess fir=
>> earm=3D
>> > > s to
>> > > > > > > > > other rights which don't endanger other people.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > Tell me, if you can, where it says in your precious
>> > > > > > > > > constit=
>> utio=3D
>> > > n th=3D3D
>> > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > ordinary civilians have the right to possess military
>> > > > > > > > > grade=
>> wea=3D
>> > > ponr=3D3D
>> > > > > y.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > We have already discussed this issue. The AR-15 rifle
>> > > > > > > > is a se=
>> mi-a=3D
>> > > uto
>> > > > > > > > rifle. It looks quite a lot like the military M-16
>> > > > > > > > rifle. As =
>> we h=3D
>> > > ave
>> > > > > > > > discussed, the M-16 rifle is both a semi-auto rifle and
>> > > > > > > > a ful=
>> ly a=3D
>> > > utom=3D3D
>> > > > > atic
>> > > > > > > > rifle.
>> >
>> > > > > > > > You may have a point about the handgun used in the
>> > > > > > > > military. =
>> I do=3D
>> > > n't =3D3D
>> > > > > know
>> > > > > > > > if it is =3D3D3DA0or is not possible to buy that exact
>> > > > > > > > same h=
>> andgun=3D
>> > > . It i=3D3D
>> > > > > s not =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > fully auto. pistol. It's a semi-auto handgun. I believe
>> > > > > > > > it is=
>> cal=3D
>> > > led =3D3D
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > Beretta M-9. I don't believe it is made in America.
>> >
>> > > > > > > You've not addressed my inquiry.
>> >
>> > > > > > > Where in the constitution does it say civilians have the
>> > > > > > > right =
>> to
>> > > > > > > possess military grade weaponry.
>> >
>> > > > > > > Your evasive waffle shows you haven't got a leg to stand
>> > > > > > > on.
>> >
>> > > > > > What weapon are you referring to?
>> >
>> > > > > > In general, the constituition does NOT mention weapon
>> > > > > > types. You =
>> shou=3D
>> > > ld
>> > > > > > know that.
>> >
>> > > > > Are you too lazy to understand the term "military grade
>> > > > > weaponry"?
>> >
>> > > > That is why I asked you what weapons you are referring to?
>> >
>> > > > For example--If you were referring to civilians owning a F-16
>> > > > fighter=
>> jet=3D
>> > > ?
>> > > > the answer is NO
>> >
>> > > > If you are referring to the Beritta M-9 semi-auto pistol, the
>> > > > answer =
>> is y=3D
>> > > es.
>> >
>> > > The term I used covers all weaponry used by the military.
>> >
>> > > It's not rational to claim military grade weaponry is suitable
>> > > for home or personal defence.
>> >
>> > > Yet you seem to think it's okay to let clinically depressed
>> > > people access to firearms, including military grade weaponry.
>> >
>> > > It makes me wonder what goes on in that head of yours.
>> >
>> > Did you know that thousands of Americans own Beratta semi-auto
>> > handguns?
>> >
>> > yes or no
>>
>> Who owns military grade weaponry should be your concern.
>>
>> It could be one of your neighbours.
>>
>> And one of them might suffer from clinical depression.
>>
>> Yet you think it's okay for them to have such weapons in their
>> possession.
>
> Yes, I trust people and don't discriminate against people that have
> depression. Why do you discriminate against them by not wanting them
> to be able to buy a gun or guns.
>
>

That's a total lie. You don't care at all about anybody, especially
depressed people, And equating it to a physical disability shows that.

Do you still think homeless people need to be locked up so "regular
people" don't have to see them?

---
a.a. #2273

Darkman

2/7/2013 4:23:00 PM

0

"Devils Advocaat" <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7c7691f6-115d-4c5f-b775-9d883d1b8c1d@g8g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On 7 Feb, 07:40, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> In article
>><f55f916d-e74d-4d50-958e-707de7622...@r8g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>, Devils
>> Yes, I trust people and don't discriminate against people that have
>> depression. Why do you discriminate against them by not wanting them to be
>> able to buy a gun or guns.

> Think carefully Jason.
> The aftermath of most mass shootings
> reveals the perpetrator
> had mental health issues.
> Clinical depression is a mental health issue.
> Preventing people with mental health issues from having guns is not
> discrimination.
> It's called being practical.
> It reduces the risk of such people from going on the rampage when
> their pushed over the edge.
> Don't you want the risk of mass shootings reduced?

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Jason

2/7/2013 6:42:00 PM

0

In article
<7c7691f6-115d-4c5f-b775-9d883d1b8c1d@g8g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7 Feb, 07:40, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <f55f916d-e74d-4d50-958e-707de7622...@r8g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>, Devil=
> s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 7, 12:02=3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <016e4928-6cd3-4f4c-be67-04d738731...@e10g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 6 Feb, 23:46, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <d567edbd-240a-4e61-a76b-a902e994a...@o5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com=
> >, D=3D
> > > evil=3D3D
> > > > > s
> >
> > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 6 Feb, 23:11, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <995ae699-3591-41ff-9dd9-0bd57e9b3...@u21g2000vbo.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 23:18, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <ceb4adca-37a5-4af5-9827-71b98e636...@e18g2000vbv.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D
> > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 17:27, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > <f46a36dd-4e4b-4041-a236-81242a6b3...@y9g2000vbb.goog=
> legr=3D
> > > oups=3D3D
> > > > > .com=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > >, D=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > evils
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4 Feb, 23:24, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <uhdvg8tjahiai6sfrngrgavmo79i8fm...@4a=
> x.co=3D
> > > m>, =3D3D
> > > > > duke
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:24:42 -0800, Ja...@nospa=
> m.co=3D
> > > m (J=3D3D
> > > > > ason=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ) wr=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > >http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-h...
> ubs-=3D
> > > kill=3D3D
> > > > > -mor=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > e...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> In 2011, there were 323 murders committed wi=
> th a=3D
> > > =A0rif=3D3D
> > > > > le b=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > > 496 murde=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >committed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murde=
> rs i=3D
> > > n wh=3D3D
> > > > > ich =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > shotgun wa=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > s
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >the deadly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> weapon of choice.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Heeheehee.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks. There was a picture in today's newspap=
> er s=3D
> > > howi=3D3D
> > > > > ng O=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > bama
> > > > > > > > > > shootin=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > g a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SHOTGUN while skeet shooting. The picture was =
> take=3D
> > > n Au=3D3D
> > > > > gust=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA04, =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 2002.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The SHOTGUN is NOT considered to be an assault=
> wea=3D
> > > pon =3D3D
> > > > > so w=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ould
> > > > > > > > > > not be =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > banned.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither are the guns used at Newtown. =3D3D3D3D=
> 3DA0Pl=3D
> > > aying =3D3D
> > > > > games =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > with c=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > lip
> > > > > > > > > > capaci=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ty is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > joke. =3D3D3D3D3DA0Now they're pushing the idea=
> that =3D
> > > the sh=3D3D
> > > > > ooter =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > droppe=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > d
> > > > > > > > > > his firs=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > t reload.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence everybody shot after a 10-clip reload mis=
> take=3D
> > > =A0wou=3D3D
> > > > > ld s=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > > be aliv=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >That means Obama's gun control plan would NOT =
> stop=3D
> > > =A0fut=3D3D
> > > > > ure
> > > > > > > > > > murders from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >happening.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dukester, American - American
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't fix stupid.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that making it illegal to sell 20 round c=
> lips=3D
> > > =A0is =3D3D
> > > > > a st=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > upid=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that will not save any lives. Most anyone could q=
> uick=3D
> > > ly c=3D3D
> > > > > hang=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > e cl=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ips. It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > took some practice but I learned to very quickly =
> chan=3D
> > > ge c=3D3D
> > > > > lips=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0in =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mini-14 rifle. I no longer own it and still miss =
> it.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > High capacity clips aren't necessary for personal o=
> r ho=3D
> > > me d=3D3D
> > > > > efen=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ce.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's still an infringement on our rights.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be in favor of placing limits on the 60 Min=
> utes=3D
> > > =A0sta=3D3D
> > > > > ff? =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > example, I believe they should show less programs sla=
> mmin=3D
> > > g co=3D3D
> > > > > nser=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > vati=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ve
> > > > > > > > > > > > members of Congress or Rush Limbaugh.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jason, you keep trying to compare your right to possess=
> fir=3D
> > > earm=3D3D
> > > > > s to
> > > > > > > > > > > other rights which don't endanger other people.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Tell me, if you can, where it says in your precious con=
> stit=3D
> > > utio=3D3D
> > > > > n th=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > ordinary civilians have the right to possess military g=
> rade=3D
> > > =A0wea=3D3D
> > > > > ponr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > y.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > We have already discussed this issue. The AR-15 rifle is =
> a se=3D
> > > mi-a=3D3D
> > > > > uto
> > > > > > > > > > rifle. It looks quite a lot like the military M-16 rifle.=
> As =3D
> > > we h=3D3D
> > > > > ave
> > > > > > > > > > discussed, the M-16 rifle is both a semi-auto rifle and a=
> ful=3D
> > > ly a=3D3D
> > > > > utom=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > atic
> > > > > > > > > > rifle.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > You may have a point about the handgun used in the milita=
> ry. =3D
> > > I do=3D3D
> > > > > n't =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > > if it is =3D3D3D3DA0or is not possible to buy that exact =
> same h=3D
> > > andgun=3D3D
> > > > > . It i=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > s not =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > fully auto. pistol. It's a semi-auto handgun. I believe i=
> t is=3D
> > > =A0cal=3D3D
> > > > > led =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Beretta M-9. I don't believe it is made in America.
> >
> > > > > > > > > You've not addressed my inquiry.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Where in the constitution does it say civilians have the ri=
> ght =3D
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > possess military grade weaponry.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Your evasive waffle shows you haven't got a leg to stand on=
> .
> >
> > > > > > > > What weapon are you referring to?
> >
> > > > > > > > In general, the constituition does NOT mention weapon types. =
> You =3D
> > > shou=3D3D
> > > > > ld
> > > > > > > > know that.
> >
> > > > > > > Are you too lazy to understand the term "military grade weaponr=
> y"?
> >
> > > > > > That is why I asked you what weapons you are referring to?
> >
> > > > > > For example--If you were referring to civilians owning a F-16 fig=
> hter=3D
> > > =A0jet=3D3D
> > > > > ?
> > > > > > the answer is NO
> >
> > > > > > If you are referring to the Beritta M-9 semi-auto pistol, the ans=
> wer =3D
> > > is y=3D3D
> > > > > es.
> >
> > > > > The term I used covers all weaponry used by the military.
> >
> > > > > It's not rational to claim military grade weaponry is suitable for
> > > > > home or personal defence.
> >
> > > > > Yet you seem to think it's okay to let clinically depressed people
> > > > > access to firearms, including military grade weaponry.
> >
> > > > > It makes me wonder what goes on in that head of yours.
> >
> > > > Did you know that thousands of Americans own Beratta semi-auto handgu=
> ns?
> >
> > > > yes or no
> >
> > > Who owns military grade weaponry should be your concern.
> >
> > > It could be one of your neighbours.
> >
> > > And one of them might suffer from clinical depression.
> >
> > > Yet you think it's okay for them to have such weapons in their
> > > possession.
> >
> > Yes, I trust people and don't discriminate against people that have
> > depression. Why do you discriminate against them by not wanting them to b=
> e
> > able to buy a gun or guns.
>
> Think carefully Jason.
>
> The aftermath of most mass shootings reveals the perpetrator had
> mental health issues.
>
> Clinical depression is a mental health issue.
>
> Preventing people with mental health issues from having guns is not
> discrimination.
>
> It's called being practical.
>
> It reduces the risk of such people from going on the rampage when
> their pushed over the edge.
>
> Don't you want the risk of mass shootings reduced?

I have a different point of view. There are millions of people that have
depression and anxiety.

If they are considered to be a danger to themselves or others, their
doctors should notify the authorities and their guns should be confiscated
and efforts should be taken by cops to make sure they can't pass
background checks.

However, the others should be allowed to buy and own guns.

Do you know anything about the Americans with Disabilities Act? If so,
does is cover people that have depression?

Jason

2/7/2013 6:43:00 PM

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In article <XnsA1604FEBF7431nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-0602132212570001@67-150-123-
> 14.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > In article <XnsA15FD66CCC8A6nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> news:Jason-0602131755080001@67-150-124-214.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <hlwdjsd2-C33347.17292806022013@news.giganews.com>,
> Jeanne
> >> > Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article
> >> >> <Jason-0602131546090001@66-53-214-111.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> >> > > Are you too lazy to understand the term "military grade
> >> >> > > weaponry"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That is why I asked you what weapons you are referring to?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For example--If you were referring to civilians owning a F-16
> >> >> > fighter jet? the answer is NO
> >> >>
> >> >> Why not?
> >> >
> >> > Because they are not needed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ditto for AR 15s
> >
> > I believe we do need them in case America is invaded.
>
>
>
> Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
> was invaded in 1814.
>
> Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
> was invaded in 1862 and 1863.
>
> Privately owned guns didn't do much when America
> was invaded in 1916.
>
>
> Just when can we expect privately owned guns to
> make a military difference?

During the next invasion.

Devils Advocaat

2/9/2013 3:53:00 PM

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On 5 Feb, 13:37, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 00:09:15 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 4 Feb, 23:24, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> In article <uhdvg8tjahiai6sfrngrgavmo79i8fm...@4ax.com>, duke
>
> >> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:24:42 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >> >http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-clubs......
> >> > >> In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders
> >> > >committed
> >> > >> with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was
> >> > >the deadly
> >> > >> weapon of choice.
>
> >> > >> Heeheehee.
>
> >> > >Thanks. There was a picture in today's newspaper showing Obama shooting a
> >> > >SHOTGUN while skeet shooting. The picture was taken August 4, 2002.
>
> >> > >The SHOTGUN is NOT considered to be an assault weapon so would not be banned.
>
> >> > Neither are the guns used at Newtown. Playing games with clip capacity is a
> >> > joke. Now they're pushing the idea that the shooter dropped his first reload.
> >> > Hence everybody shot after a 10-clip reload mistake would still be alive.
>
> >> > >That means Obama's gun control plan would NOT stop future murders from
> >> > >happening.
>
> >> > The dukester, American - American
> >> > ********************************************
> >> > You can't fix stupid.
> >> > ********************************************
>
> >> I agree that making it illegal to sell 20 round clips is a stupid idea
> >> that will not save any lives. Most anyone could quickly change clips. It
> >> took some practice but I learned to very quickly change clips in my
> >> Mini-14 rifle. I no longer own it and still miss it.
>
> >High capacity clips aren't necessary for personal or home defence.
>
> The 2nd amendment says we can.

Given such weaponry didn't exist back then, and I've seen the said
amendment, I can only conclude that you're lying.
>
> The dukester, American - American
> ********************************************
> You can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************