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48 Answers

Alan Ferris

2/4/2013 11:13:00 AM

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:27:56 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>In article <hlwdjsd2-2ECF60.15012203022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <Jason-0302130024160001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>
>> > In article <hlwdjsd2-272CCD.21152902022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> > Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article
>> > > <Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>> > > > Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > > > > Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > > > > Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > > > > John Lennon would still be alive.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > > > > 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Are you beginning to see the problem?
>> > > >
>> > > > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to death.
>> > > >
>> > > > What was your point?
>> > > >
>> > > > If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be insisting
>> > > > that something be done about those millions of butcher knives? I
>doubt it.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
>> > > >
>> > > > What was your point?
>> > >
>> > > Why don't you want to make it harder for those people to get the guns
>> > > they want?
>> >
>> > OK--I am now in favor of forcing anyone that wants to buy a gun to get a
>> > background check.
>> >
>> > Do you believe it will put a total stop to the murders of little children
>> > by nutcases that have guns? yes or no
>>
>> Of course it won't. I dare you to name one person who says it will.
>>
>> But, remember, this is just a first step to lessen the number of guns
>> available on the black market.
>
>Yes, but what if other countries provide guns for the black market? We
>have provided the Afghanistan soldiers that worked for the USA with
>thousands of fully automatic M-16 rifles that are far more dangerous than
>semi-auto AR-15 rifles. What will happen if they sell them to bad guys in
>America?
>
Why are they not selling them to those other countries?
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Devils Advocaat

2/4/2013 3:16:00 PM

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On 4 Feb, 03:28, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA15CD36ECF365nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-0302131520150001@66-53-210-113.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <XnsA15C4E31465BFnomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-0302130028040001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> > In article <XnsA15BC1AABE735nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
> > >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >>news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> > In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
> > >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >>    If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >> >> >> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>
> > >> >> >>    If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >> >> >> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>
> > >> >> >>    If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >> >> >> John Lennon would still be alive.
>
> > >> >> >>    If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >> >> >> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>
> > >> >> >>    Are you beginning to see the problem?
>
> > >> >> > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
> > >> death.
>
> > >> >>      No one is talking about knives.
>
> > >> >>      Stick with the subject. What is your
> > >> >> solution to legal gun sales to nutcases like
> > >> >> Adam Lanza and Mark Chapman and John Hinckley
> > >> >> and James Holman?
>
> > >> > Anyone that has been in a prison, mental facility or psych.
> > >> > hospital should not be able to pass a background check.
>
> > >>      That means the Virginia Tech shooter could
> > >> legally buy his guns. That means the Newtown
> > >> shooter could legally buy his guns. That means
> > >> the Columbine shooters could legally buy their
> > >> guns. That means John Hinckley could legally
> > >> buy his guns.
>
> > >>       That means ALL the law abiding citizens
> > >> who flip out and "go postal" could legally
> > >> buy their guns.
>
> > >>       THAT is your solution?
>
> > > I got nothing. What is your solution?
>
> >      Adopt gun laws as in those countries where
> > they are known to work. Australia, UK, Canada.
>
> >http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-australia-japan-br...
> > control-2013-1
>
> The end result--the bad guys have guns purchased on the black market and
> the good guys have no guns and are therefore at the mercy of bad guys.

Facts that Jason needs reminding of.

UK 1987 to 2012 just three mass shootings, a total of 45 dead.

US 2012 at least 16 mass shootings, a total of at least 81 dead.

I wonder how many mass shooting have happened in the US from 1987 to
2012?

Has anyone got the figures?

UK intentional firearm homicides 0.07 per 100,000 population

US intentional firearm homicides 3.00 per 100,000 population.

UK firearms about 6 per 100 population

US firearms about 89 per 100 population.

Dakota

2/4/2013 6:45:00 PM

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On 2/4/2013 3:12 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-0402130037340001@66-53-214-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-AF94AE.19561303022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <Jason-0302131827560001@66-53-212-22.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-2ECF60.15012203022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <Jason-0302130024160001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-272CCD.21152902022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>>>>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
>>>>>>>> Mitchell
>>>>>>>> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>>>>>>>>> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>>>>>>>>> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>>>>>>>>> John Lennon would still be alive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>>>>>>>>> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you beginning to see the problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
>>>>>>>> death.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What was your point?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
>>>>>>>> insisting
>>>>>>>> that something be done about those millions of butcher knives? I
>>>> doubt it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What was your point?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you want to make it harder for those people to get the
>>>>>>> guns
>>>>>>> they want?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK--I am now in favor of forcing anyone that wants to buy a gun to
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> background check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you believe it will put a total stop to the murders of little
>> children
>>>>>> by nutcases that have guns? yes or no
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it won't. I dare you to name one person who says it will.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, remember, this is just a first step to lessen the number of guns
>>>>> available on the black market.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but what if other countries provide guns for the black market? We
>>>> have provided the Afghanistan soldiers that worked for the USA with
>>>> thousands of fully automatic M-16 rifles that are far more dangerous than
>>>> semi-auto AR-15 rifles. What will happen if they sell them to bad guys in
>>>> America?
>>>
>>> How the hell are they going to get them to America?
>>>
>>> Why do you feel it's necessary to invent ridiculous scenarios? Do you
>>> not understand how much more dishonest that makes you appear?
>>
>> They seem to have no problems getting cocaine and heroin from Afghanistan
>> to America.
>
> Cocaine and heroin are a helluva lot easier to hide than weapons.
>
> Are you really this incapable of rational thought?
>
A small package of coke or heroin can fetch a very high price. You'd
have to ship thousands of pounds of M-16s to equal the value of a few
kilos of pure cocaine.

Mitchell Holman

2/4/2013 9:54:00 PM

0

Devils Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5d78def7-d824-4a5b-818e-f2169236666c@r14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> On 4 Feb, 03:28, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> In article <XnsA15CD36ECF365nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
>> Mitchell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> >news:Jason-0302131520150001@66-53-210-113.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>
>> > > In article <XnsA15C4E31465BFnomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
>> > > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> > >>news:Jason-0302130028040001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>
>> > >> > In article <XnsA15BC1AABE735nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
>> > >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> > >> >>news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com
>> > >> >>:
>>
>> > >> >> > In article
>> > >> >> > <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizon...@216.196.121.131>,
>> > >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> >> ? ?If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > >> >> >> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>>
>> > >> >> >> ? ?If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > >> >> >> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>>
>> > >> >> >> ? ?If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > >> >> >> John Lennon would still be alive.
>>
>> > >> >> >> ? ?If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> > >> >> >> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>>
>> > >> >> >> ? ?Are you beginning to see the problem?
>>
>> > >> >> > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab
>> > >> >> > people to
>> > >> death.
>>
>> > >> >> ? ? ?No one is talking about knives.
>>
>> > >> >> ? ? ?Stick with the subject. What is your
>> > >> >> solution to legal gun sales to nutcases like
>> > >> >> Adam Lanza and Mark Chapman and John Hinckley
>> > >> >> and James Holman?
>>
>> > >> > Anyone that has been in a prison, mental facility or psych.
>> > >> > hospital should not be able to pass a background check.
>>
>> > >> ? ? ?That means the Virginia Tech shooter could
>> > >> legally buy his guns. That means the Newtown
>> > >> shooter could legally buy his guns. That means
>> > >> the Columbine shooters could legally buy their
>> > >> guns. That means John Hinckley could legally
>> > >> buy his guns.
>>
>> > >> ? ? ? That means ALL the law abiding citizens
>> > >> who flip out and "go postal" could legally
>> > >> buy their guns.
>>
>> > >> ? ? ? THAT is your solution?
>>
>> > > I got nothing. What is your solution?
>>
>> > ? ? ?Adopt gun laws as in those countries where
>> > they are known to work. Australia, UK, Canada.
>>
>> >http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-australia-japan-br...
>> > control-2013-1
>>
>> The end result--the bad guys have guns purchased on the black market
>> and the good guys have no guns and are therefore at the mercy of bad
>> guys.
>
> Facts that Jason needs reminding of.
>
> UK 1987 to 2012 just three mass shootings, a total of 45 dead.
>
> US 2012 at least 16 mass shootings, a total of at least 81 dead.
>
> I wonder how many mass shooting have happened in the US from 1987 to
> 2012?
>
> Has anyone got the figures?
>
> UK intentional firearm homicides 0.07 per 100,000 population
>
> US intentional firearm homicides 3.00 per 100,000 population.
>
> UK firearms about 6 per 100 population
>
> US firearms about 89 per 100 population.
>


More guns = more gun crimes.

Why Jason cannot grasp that is beyond me.

tirebiter

2/4/2013 10:57:00 PM

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Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>>
>>
>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>>
>>
>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> John Lennon would still be alive.
>>
>>
>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>>
>>
>> Are you beginning to see the problem?
>
> And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to death.
>
> What was your point?
>
> If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
> insisting that something be done about those millions of butcher
> knives? I doubt it.
>
>
> Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
>
> What was your point?
>
>
>

Stop this idiotic comparison. Kitchen knives have a primary purpose of
preparing food. Guns have a primary purpose of killing people.

This is beyond idiotic.

---
a.a. #2273

Jason

2/4/2013 11:42:00 PM

0

In article <XnsA15DB671BFE9Fdontspammebigfootcom@74.209.131.10>, tirebiter
<dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
> >>
> >>
> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
> >>
> >>
> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> John Lennon would still be alive.
> >>
> >>
> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
> >>
> >>
> >> Are you beginning to see the problem?
> >
> > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to death.
> >
> > What was your point?
> >
> > If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
> > insisting that something be done about those millions of butcher
> > knives? I doubt it.
> >
> >
> > Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
> >
> > What was your point?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Stop this idiotic comparison. Kitchen knives have a primary purpose of
> preparing food. Guns have a primary purpose of killing people.
>
> This is beyond idiotic.
>
> ---
> a.a. #2273

Kitchen knives can also be used for killing people.

Guns can be used for shooting targets. Most guns have not been used to
kill anyone.

You appear to be blamming the guns for killing people. Why not blame the
shooters of the guns for killing people.

They don't place guns in prison--they place the shooters of innocent
people in prison.

You seem

Jason

2/4/2013 11:44:00 PM

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In article <keovi3$n7r$2@dont-email.me>, Dakota <markp@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:

> On 2/4/2013 3:12 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-0402130037340001@66-53-214-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <hlwdjsd2-AF94AE.19561303022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> >> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <Jason-0302131827560001@66-53-212-22.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-2ECF60.15012203022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> >>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> <Jason-0302130024160001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-272CCD.21152902022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> >>>>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>> <Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
> >>>>>>>> Mitchell
> >>>>>>>> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >>>>>>>>> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >>>>>>>>> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >>>>>>>>> John Lennon would still be alive.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >>>>>>>>> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Are you beginning to see the problem?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
> >>>>>>>> death.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What was your point?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
> >>>>>>>> insisting
> >>>>>>>> that something be done about those millions of butcher knives? I
> >>>> doubt it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What was your point?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why don't you want to make it harder for those people to get the
> >>>>>>> guns
> >>>>>>> they want?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OK--I am now in favor of forcing anyone that wants to buy a gun to
> >>>>>> get a
> >>>>>> background check.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you believe it will put a total stop to the murders of little
> >> children
> >>>>>> by nutcases that have guns? yes or no
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course it won't. I dare you to name one person who says it will.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But, remember, this is just a first step to lessen the number of guns
> >>>>> available on the black market.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, but what if other countries provide guns for the black market? We
> >>>> have provided the Afghanistan soldiers that worked for the USA with
> >>>> thousands of fully automatic M-16 rifles that are far more dangerous than
> >>>> semi-auto AR-15 rifles. What will happen if they sell them to bad guys in
> >>>> America?
> >>>
> >>> How the hell are they going to get them to America?
> >>>
> >>> Why do you feel it's necessary to invent ridiculous scenarios? Do you
> >>> not understand how much more dishonest that makes you appear?
> >>
> >> They seem to have no problems getting cocaine and heroin from Afghanistan
> >> to America.
> >
> > Cocaine and heroin are a helluva lot easier to hide than weapons.
> >
> > Are you really this incapable of rational thought?
> >
> A small package of coke or heroin can fetch a very high price. You'd
> have to ship thousands of pounds of M-16s to equal the value of a few
> kilos of pure cocaine.

That's a valid point but if they don't have any packages of coke or heroin
to sell, why would they not ship thousands of pounds of M-16s?

Mitchell Holman

2/5/2013 12:01:00 AM

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Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-0402131542590001@66.53.221.252:

> In article <XnsA15DB671BFE9Fdontspammebigfootcom@74.209.131.10>,
> tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>
>> > In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
>> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> >> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> >> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> >> John Lennon would still be alive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
>> >> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Are you beginning to see the problem?
>> >
>> > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
>> > death.
>> >
>> > What was your point?
>> >
>> > If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
>> > insisting that something be done about those millions of butcher
>> > knives? I doubt it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
>> >
>> > What was your point?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Stop this idiotic comparison. Kitchen knives have a primary purpose
>> of preparing food. Guns have a primary purpose of killing people.
>>
>> This is beyond idiotic.
>>
>> ---
>> a.a. #2273
>
> Kitchen knives can also be used for killing people.
>
> Guns can be used for shooting targets. Most guns have not been used to
> kill anyone.
>
> You appear to be blamming the guns for killing people. Why not blame
> the shooters of the guns for killing people.
>
> They don't place guns in prison--they place the shooters of innocent
> people in prison.


Adam Lanza is not in prison.

The Columbine shooters are not in prison.

The Virginia Tech shooter is not in prison.

Just how big a deterrence is prison for
mass shooters like them?

Jeanne Douglas

2/5/2013 12:28:00 AM

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In article <Jason-0402131544470001@66.53.221.252>,
Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <keovi3$n7r$2@dont-email.me>, Dakota <markp@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2/4/2013 3:12 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-0402130037340001@66-53-214-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <hlwdjsd2-AF94AE.19561303022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> > >> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> In article <Jason-0302131827560001@66-53-212-22.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-2ECF60.15012203022013@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> > >>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> In article
> > >>>>> <Jason-0302130024160001@66-53-219-166.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> In article <hlwdjsd2-272CCD.21152902022013@news.giganews.com>,
> > >>>>>> Jeanne
> > >>>>>> Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In article
> > >>>>>>> <Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>>>>>> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
> > >>>>>>>> Mitchell
> > >>>>>>>> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >>>>>>>>> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >>>>>>>>> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >>>>>>>>> John Lennon would still be alive.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> > >>>>>>>>> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Are you beginning to see the problem?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
> > >>>>>>>> death.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What was your point?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
> > >>>>>>>> insisting
> > >>>>>>>> that something be done about those millions of butcher knives? I
> > >>>> doubt it.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What was your point?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Why don't you want to make it harder for those people to get the
> > >>>>>>> guns
> > >>>>>>> they want?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> OK--I am now in favor of forcing anyone that wants to buy a gun to
> > >>>>>> get a
> > >>>>>> background check.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Do you believe it will put a total stop to the murders of little
> > >> children
> > >>>>>> by nutcases that have guns? yes or no
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Of course it won't. I dare you to name one person who says it will.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But, remember, this is just a first step to lessen the number of guns
> > >>>>> available on the black market.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, but what if other countries provide guns for the black market? We
> > >>>> have provided the Afghanistan soldiers that worked for the USA with
> > >>>> thousands of fully automatic M-16 rifles that are far more dangerous
> > >>>> than
> > >>>> semi-auto AR-15 rifles. What will happen if they sell them to bad guys
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> America?
> > >>>
> > >>> How the hell are they going to get them to America?
> > >>>
> > >>> Why do you feel it's necessary to invent ridiculous scenarios? Do you
> > >>> not understand how much more dishonest that makes you appear?
> > >>
> > >> They seem to have no problems getting cocaine and heroin from
> > >> Afghanistan
> > >> to America.
> > >
> > > Cocaine and heroin are a helluva lot easier to hide than weapons.
> > >
> > > Are you really this incapable of rational thought?
> > >
> > A small package of coke or heroin can fetch a very high price. You'd
> > have to ship thousands of pounds of M-16s to equal the value of a few
> > kilos of pure cocaine.
>
> That's a valid point but if they don't have any packages of coke or heroin
> to sell, why would they not ship thousands of pounds of M-16s?

How do you hide thousands of pounds of M-16s?

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Jason

2/5/2013 12:30:00 AM

0

In article <XnsA15DB63C6F434nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-0402131542590001@66.53.221.252:
>
> > In article <XnsA15DB671BFE9Fdontspammebigfootcom@74.209.131.10>,
> > tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> news:Jason-0202131600410001@67-150-121-55.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <XnsA15B4EEF3FF74nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131>,
> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> >> Marvin Gaye would still be alive.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> >> Phil Hartman would still be alive.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> >> John Lennon would still be alive.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If not for a legally-bought gun "just for protection"
> >> >> 20 children in Newtown would still be alive.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you beginning to see the problem?
> >> >
> >> > And some legally-bought knives have been used to stab people to
> >> > death.
> >> >
> >> > What was your point?
> >> >
> >> > If any of those people had been stabbed to death, would you be
> >> > insisting that something be done about those millions of butcher
> >> > knives? I doubt it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Blame the shooters--not the guns they used.
> >> >
> >> > What was your point?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Stop this idiotic comparison. Kitchen knives have a primary purpose
> >> of preparing food. Guns have a primary purpose of killing people.
> >>
> >> This is beyond idiotic.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> a.a. #2273
> >
> > Kitchen knives can also be used for killing people.
> >
> > Guns can be used for shooting targets. Most guns have not been used to
> > kill anyone.
> >
> > You appear to be blamming the guns for killing people. Why not blame
> > the shooters of the guns for killing people.
> >
> > They don't place guns in prison--they place the shooters of innocent
> > people in prison.
>
>
> Adam Lanza is not in prison.
>
> The Columbine shooters are not in prison.
>
> The Virginia Tech shooter is not in prison.
>
> Just how big a deterrence is prison for
> mass shooters like them?

Prisons and mental hospitals are a deterrence as long as the people are
still in prisons and mental hospitals. They are NOT a deterrance after
they are released.