sheldonlg
6/10/2014 1:12:00 PM
On 6/10/2014 5:13 AM, news wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:25 +0000 (UTC), mm <mm2005@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:37:23 +0000 (UTC), "Evertjan."
>> <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Shelly <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote on 09 jun 2014 in
>>> soc.culture.jewish.moderated:
>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2014 3:03 PM, Evertjan. wrote:
>>>>> mm <mm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote on 09 jun 2014 in
>>>>> soc.culture.jewish.moderated:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When saying "our" and not meaning the NG,
>>>>>>> one should specify the context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others can always ask. As you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> True.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, you only can when the posting is recent.
>>>>
>>>> Why? So long as the poster to whom you are responding still posts here
>>>> (so that you can get an answer), what is stopping you from asking about
>>>> an old post? If that poster is not here any longer, what is preventing
>>>> you from _asking_?
>>>
>>> True, but very very ineffective.
>>>
>>> I maintain that, if a poster has any other meaning for "we" than the
>>> collective membership of the newsgroup, he/she should specify.
>>
>> What about all the other hundreds of words and innumerable sentences
>> that will not be clear to every reader?
>>
>> When I tried harder to take away any uncertainty of meaning from my
>> posts, they got so long people complained about the length.
>>
>>> Since this collectivity does not own soldiers, well ...
>>
>> ....well then we know the "our" didn't refer to scjm.
>>
>> Who all it actually referred to doesn't seem very important to me, since
>> we know that "our" included the writer, Topaz. Who else she was
>> including a) doesnt' seem so important to me, and b) could only be
>> people in the USA or a subset of them, since it's the USA whose army he
>> is in.
>
> It sounds like you're arguing with someone who is being deliberately
> obtuse. Given that most of the posters here are US-based, it wouldn't
> have taken rocket surgery to guess what "our" meant.
Exactly. Yes, we also agree on this one.
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Shelly