Donna
10/17/2011 11:06:00 PM
On Oct 17, 6:24 pm, Billy <billybartlet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 12:55 pm, Donna <tom.r...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 17, 3:25 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Applause. Nice to see another poster here sees the light.
>
> > > I can't understand how someone can be a Beatles fan or a Lennon fan
> > > and not see Yoko for what she is.
>
> > You really can't understand how someone can be a fan? When I think of
> > The Beatles, Yoko is not part of the equation... well, not usually,
> > anyway. She really doesn't stand out for me in any way... well, other
> > than the fact that she was part of May's life and that she's often the
> > main topic on this newsgroup. My thoughts are basically that she was
> > John's 2nd wife... she's offbeat... avant-garde... she sings funny...
> > stuff happened. That's about it for me.
>
> > > There's a saying: all that evil needs to succeed is for good men to
> > > remain silent. Too many here remain silent and even attack the Yoko
> > > critics.
>
> > I always wondered what your goal is here in trying to convince others
> > that Yoko is so evil. What is it that you want them to feel or to
> > do? From what you wrote, above, it sounds as if you don't want them
> > to be silent about it. But is that all you want, or is it something
> > more? And even if they're vocal about it, what will that accomplish?
>
> > In trying to understand this, I can say that, for myself, it was
> > irritating to read gushing praise for Mrs. Harrison, knowing the
> > whacky and cruel things that she did which was well-hidden from the
> > general public. However, they were mostly just brief statements of
> > mine here, borne out of momentary bursts of frustration when I'd
> > sometimes read a post from somebody who would say how classy and
> > wonderful she is, deceived and unaware of many of the facts, some of
> > which are documented. But I wasn't on a mission to be the one to
> > expose her or to get the newsgroup or the public to turn on her. My
> > feeling is that, spiritually, what she does is ultimately between her
> > and her God, and life plays out just as it should.
>
> > And so I feel the same regarding Yoko. Whatever it is that happened,
> > she will someday have to face whatever it is that she did... and,
> > again, life played out just as it should. Her personal thought
> > process, her deeds, and her relationship with John is not necessarily
> > for outsiders to comprehend or to judge. A lot of it was made public,
> > however, and you can react to it, but you can't expect others to feel
> > what you do, or with the same intensity. You have a reason for so
> > strongly feeling the way you do, and many of us here don't understand
> > it. And that's okay since you may not fully understand it, yourself.
> > But it's your thing, not ours. After years of talking about her here,
> > not much has changed in the way of swaying a lot of posters over to
> > your point of view. So why go on? And why would the opinion of
> > others even matter so much to you? What are you looking for them to
> > do with the information that you present? Really, I'm just curious,
> > fattuchus. No disrespect intended here.
>
> Hi. You express a lot if feelings in this post. You weren't writing
> to me, but I did want to.mention that other people don't have to share
> your feelings. I don't see why anyone should be expected to agree
> that everything Yoko did is "between herself and her god,"I for
> example. You might be fine with whatever Yoko does, and confident God
> is, too. Nut is that a reason for others to feel the same way?
> Don't others, possibly others who know more about Yoko than you, have
> the right to believe differently? Even to be rubbed the wrong way by
> some of Yoko's doings?
Of course! I was trying to relate for my own understanding, but I
wasn't expecting anyone to share my feelings or agree with how I see
it. Not in the least. And not expecting others to share the same
feelings or trying to convince them of anything is kind of the point.
I don't think you were really comprehending my questions. Being that
she brought up the saying, "All that evil needs to succeed is for good
men to remain silent," I'm just curious as to what Fattuchus
ultimately hopes to accomplish here.