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Bruno Sousa

4/23/2009 4:51:00 PM

Where can I find Ruby Version History? I need to check differences
between them.

Regards
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-....
13 Answers

Eric Hodel

4/23/2009 5:50:00 PM

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On Apr 23, 2009, at 09:50, Bruno Sousa wrote:

> Where can I find Ruby Version History? I need to check differences
> between them.

The ChangeLog in the repository:

http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/community/...

Or on the web:

http://svn.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/viewvc....

John Maclean

4/24/2009 1:35:00 PM

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2009/4/23 Bruno Sousa <brgsousa@gmail.com>:
> Where can I find Ruby Version History? I need to check differences
> between them.
>
> Regards
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-....
>
>


You can pull a truck and run something like `git svn log` in that dir
that you have pulled. the svn url is a good one.
--
John Maclean
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Timezone: GMT

Bruno Sousa

4/24/2009 1:44:00 PM

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I am for something like main differences/improvements between stable
versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .


john maclean wrote:
> 2009/4/23 Bruno Sousa <brgsousa@gmail.com>:
>> Where can I find Ruby Version History? I need to check differences
>> between them.
>>
>> Regards
>> --
>> Posted via http://www.ruby-....
>>
>>
>
>
> You can pull a truck and run something like `git svn log` in that dir
> that you have pulled. the svn url is a good one.
> --
> John Maclean
> 07739 171 531
> MSc (DIC)
>
> Timezone: GMT

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Posted via http://www.ruby-....

Eric Hodel

4/24/2009 6:49:00 PM

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On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:

> I am for something like main differences/improvements between stable
> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .


I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to construct
them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.

Juan Zanos

4/24/2009 8:26:00 PM

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On 24 avr. 09, at 14:48, Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>
>> I am for something like main differences/improvements between stable
>> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .
>
>
> I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to
> construct them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.
>

Ruby's source control system leaves much to be desired. If you try
to checkout tags you'll get gigabytes of mostly redundant
information, which is silly. If you check out trunk you won't get
the tags.

The ruby source code isn't that large. The actual code in trunk
seems to be only about 15M. The compressed history, including tags
and branches, seems to be only about 13M. With a better source
control system you should be able to download and manage the entire
history without wasting much bandwidth or disk space. That could be
very beneficial.

Juan Zanos

4/24/2009 9:10:00 PM

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On 24 avr. 09, at 16:26, Juan Zanos wrote:

>
> On 24 avr. 09, at 14:48, Eric Hodel wrote:
>
>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>>
>>> I am for something like main differences/improvements between stable
>>> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .
>>
>>
>> I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to
>> construct them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.
>>
>
> Ruby's source control system leaves much to be desired. If you
> try to checkout tags you'll get gigabytes of mostly redundant
> information, which is silly. If you check out trunk you won't get
> the tags.
>
> The ruby source code isn't that large. The actual code in trunk
> seems to be only about 15M. The compressed history, including
> tags and branches, seems to be only about 13M. With a better
> source control system you should be able to download and manage the
> entire history without wasting much bandwidth or disk space. That
> could be very beneficial.
>

Reflecting on this it seems surprisingly wasteful given the Ruby
community's apparent concern for the environment.

Eric Hodel

4/24/2009 9:45:00 PM

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On Apr 24, 2009, at 13:26, Juan Zanos wrote:
> On 24 avr. 09, at 14:48, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>>> I am for something like main differences/improvements between stable
>>> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .
>>
>> I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to
>> construct them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.
>>
>
> Ruby's source control system leaves much to be desired. If you try
> to checkout tags you'll get gigabytes of mostly redundant
> information, which is silly. If you check out trunk you won't get
> the tags.
>
> The ruby source code isn't that large. The actual code in trunk
> seems to be only about 15M. The compressed history, including tags
> and branches, seems to be only about 13M. With a better source
> control system you should be able to download and manage the entire
> history without wasting much bandwidth or disk space. That could
> be very beneficial.

Why bother checking out everything? Know your tools!

$ svn cat http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_3... |
head
Wed Sep 21 09:07:55 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>

* stable version 1.8.3 released.

Wed Sep 21 08:52:25 2005 why the lucky stiff <why@ruby-lang.org>

* ext/syck/token.c: correctly compute identation of a block
scalar's parent node. [ruby-talk:150620]

Wed Sep 21 08:20:24 2005 Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>
svn: Can't write to stream: Broken pipe
$ svn diff http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_3... http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_4...
| head
Index: ChangeLog
===================================================================
--- ChangeLog (.../v1_8_3/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
+++ ChangeLog (.../v1_8_4/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
@@ -1,3 +1,968 @@
+Sat Dec 24 18:58:14 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
+
+ * stable version 1.8.4 released.
+
+Fri Dec 23 10:30:23 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
diff: standard output: Broken pipe
svn: 'svn_diff_sucks_ass' returned 2
svn: Error reading spooled REPORT request response

Juan Zanos

4/24/2009 9:59:00 PM

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On 24 avr. 09, at 17:45, Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2009, at 13:26, Juan Zanos wrote:
>> On 24 avr. 09, at 14:48, Eric Hodel wrote:
>>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>>>> I am for something like main differences/improvements between
>>>> stable
>>>> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .
>>>
>>> I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to
>>> construct them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.
>>>
>>
>> Ruby's source control system leaves much to be desired. If you
>> try to checkout tags you'll get gigabytes of mostly redundant
>> information, which is silly. If you check out trunk you won't
>> get the tags.
>>
>> The ruby source code isn't that large. The actual code in trunk
>> seems to be only about 15M. The compressed history, including
>> tags and branches, seems to be only about 13M. With a better
>> source control system you should be able to download and manage
>> the entire history without wasting much bandwidth or disk space.
>> That could be very beneficial.
>
> Why bother checking out everything? Know your tools!
>
> $ svn cat http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_3...
> | head
> Wed Sep 21 09:07:55 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
>
> * stable version 1.8.3 released.
>
> Wed Sep 21 08:52:25 2005 why the lucky stiff <why@ruby-lang.org>
>
> * ext/syck/token.c: correctly compute identation of a block
> scalar's parent node. [ruby-talk:150620]
>
> Wed Sep 21 08:20:24 2005 Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>
> svn: Can't write to stream: Broken pipe
> $ svn diff http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/ta...
> ChangeLog http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_4...
> | head
> Index: ChangeLog
> ===================================================================
> --- ChangeLog (.../v1_8_3/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
> +++ ChangeLog (.../v1_8_4/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
> @@ -1,3 +1,968 @@
> +Sat Dec 24 18:58:14 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
> +
> + * stable version 1.8.4 released.
> +
> +Fri Dec 23 10:30:23 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
> diff: standard output: Broken pipe
> svn: 'svn_diff_sucks_ass' returned 2
> svn: Error reading spooled REPORT request response
>
>
>

I do. That's why I avoid using that tool. Look at your example.
How am I supposed to know in advance to look in the directory tags/
v1_8_4/ChangeLog unless I get that information from somewhere else?
Also, If I need that version I'm going to have to download the whole
thing rather than just use a cheap local delta. A better tool would
give me all the information I need without external source, without
lots of disk space, and without lots of bandwidth.

Juan Zanos

4/24/2009 10:38:00 PM

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On 24 avr. 09, at 17:45, Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2009, at 13:26, Juan Zanos wrote:
>> On 24 avr. 09, at 14:48, Eric Hodel wrote:
>>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:43, Bruno Sousa wrote:
>>>> I am for something like main differences/improvements between
>>>> stable
>>>> versions like 0.95, 1.0, 1.8, 1.9 .
>>>
>>> I don't believe those are stored anywhere. You'll have to
>>> construct them from the tags/ directory of the SVN repo.
>>>
>>
>> Ruby's source control system leaves much to be desired. If you
>> try to checkout tags you'll get gigabytes of mostly redundant
>> information, which is silly. If you check out trunk you won't
>> get the tags.
>>
>> The ruby source code isn't that large. The actual code in trunk
>> seems to be only about 15M. The compressed history, including
>> tags and branches, seems to be only about 13M. With a better
>> source control system you should be able to download and manage
>> the entire history without wasting much bandwidth or disk space.
>> That could be very beneficial.
>
> Why bother checking out everything? Know your tools!
>
> $ svn cat http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_3...
> | head
> Wed Sep 21 09:07:55 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
>
> * stable version 1.8.3 released.
>
> Wed Sep 21 08:52:25 2005 why the lucky stiff <why@ruby-lang.org>
>
> * ext/syck/token.c: correctly compute identation of a block
> scalar's parent node. [ruby-talk:150620]
>
> Wed Sep 21 08:20:24 2005 Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>
> svn: Can't write to stream: Broken pipe
> $ svn diff http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/ta...
> ChangeLog http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_8_4...
> | head
> Index: ChangeLog
> ===================================================================
> --- ChangeLog (.../v1_8_3/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
> +++ ChangeLog (.../v1_8_4/ChangeLog) (revision 23268)
> @@ -1,3 +1,968 @@
> +Sat Dec 24 18:58:14 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
> +
> + * stable version 1.8.4 released.
> +
> +Fri Dec 23 10:30:23 2005 Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>
> diff: standard output: Broken pipe
> svn: 'svn_diff_sucks_ass' returned 2
> svn: Error reading spooled REPORT request response
>

Eric, your post is hilarious. Check out the second to last line:

> svn: 'svn_diff_sucks_ass' returned 2


If somebody converts this repository to something decent I'll be the
first to buy them a beer.

Ryan Davis

4/24/2009 10:38:00 PM

0


On Apr 24, 2009, at 14:58 , Juan Zanos wrote:

> I do. That's why I avoid using that tool. Look at your example.
> How am I supposed to know in advance to look in the directory tags/
> v1_8_4/ChangeLog unless I get that information from somewhere else?
> Also, If I need that version I'm going to have to download the whole
> thing rather than just use a cheap local delta. A better tool would
> give me all the information I need without external source, without
> lots of disk space, and without lots of bandwidth.

unicorns!