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Where can I find MSDN Library Visual Studio 6.0a?

(Mike Mitchell)

11/21/2010 6:41:00 PM

I have two setup CDs, the first is named DN69AENU1, but it won't read
all the files (cyclic redundancy errors). The CD hasn't been used for
years.

I tried downloading an MSDN .iso from Microsoft, but I can't find any
reference to that old version anywhere on the MS website.

Any ideas anyone where I could get version 6.0a of the MSDN library?

(I did install the MSDN Library - October 2001, but it's crap. It just
doesn't give the same info as 6.0a. For instance, if I click on help
for ListView in Windows Controls, I see the text in the right hand
pane of the MSDN display window, but where it should say See Also,
Properties, Methods, Events there are only little square icons, white
with a dot in the middle.)

MM
31 Answers

MikeD

11/21/2010 11:38:00 PM

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"MM" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cipie6taasaumjr93tkbe8smm19cglj337@4ax.com...
> I have two setup CDs, the first is named DN69AENU1, but it won't read
> all the files (cyclic redundancy errors). The CD hasn't been used for
> years.

Have you tried cleaning the disc?

>
> I tried downloading an MSDN .iso from Microsoft, but I can't find any
> reference to that old version anywhere on the MS website.
>
> Any ideas anyone where I could get version 6.0a of the MSDN library?

As far as I know, not available from MS via download or any other means.

>
> (I did install the MSDN Library - October 2001, but it's crap. It just
> doesn't give the same info as 6.0a. For instance, if I click on help
> for ListView in Windows Controls, I see the text in the right hand
> pane of the MSDN display window, but where it should say See Also,
> Properties, Methods, Events there are only little square icons, white
> with a dot in the middle.)


It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other links
should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the solution. I
think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which one. Search the
newsgroup archives. I KNOW others have had this problem and a solution's
been posted in the past.

--
Mike


(nobody)

11/21/2010 11:47:00 PM

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"MM" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cipie6taasaumjr93tkbe8smm19cglj337@4ax.com...
> (I did install the MSDN Library - October 2001, but it's crap. It just
> doesn't give the same info as 6.0a. For instance, if I click on help
> for ListView in Windows Controls, I see the text in the right hand
> pane of the MSDN display window, but where it should say See Also,
> Properties, Methods, Events there are only little square icons, white
> with a dot in the middle.)

I have MSDN Library - October 2001 on XP+SP2+IE6, and I don't have this
problem.

What OS, service pack, and IE version do you have installed?


Tony Toews

11/22/2010 12:02:00 AM

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:38:11 -0500, "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu>
wrote:

>It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other links
>should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the solution. I
>think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which one.

Ah, I'm having that problem as well but fortunately, for me, Access 97
help frequently gives me what I need.

Tony
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For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeup...

(nobody)

11/22/2010 2:28:00 AM

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"MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> wrote in message
news:iccah4$d2f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other links
> should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the solution. I
> think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which one. Search the
> newsgroup archives. I KNOW others have had this problem and a solution's
> been posted in the past.

Right clicking and using "View Source" shows that "See Also" and other links
on the top are using an object with CLSID
{adb880a6-d8ff-11cf-9377-00aa003b7a11}. Searching the registry, shows it's
hhctrl.ocx, which is in the System32 folder.



(Mike Mitchell)

11/22/2010 9:31:00 AM

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:38:11 -0500, "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu>
wrote:

>
>
>"MM" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:cipie6taasaumjr93tkbe8smm19cglj337@4ax.com...
>> I have two setup CDs, the first is named DN69AENU1, but it won't read
>> all the files (cyclic redundancy errors). The CD hasn't been used for
>> years.
>
>Have you tried cleaning the disc?
>
>>
>> I tried downloading an MSDN .iso from Microsoft, but I can't find any
>> reference to that old version anywhere on the MS website.
>>
>> Any ideas anyone where I could get version 6.0a of the MSDN library?
>
>As far as I know, not available from MS via download or any other means.
>
>>
>> (I did install the MSDN Library - October 2001, but it's crap. It just
>> doesn't give the same info as 6.0a. For instance, if I click on help
>> for ListView in Windows Controls, I see the text in the right hand
>> pane of the MSDN display window, but where it should say See Also,
>> Properties, Methods, Events there are only little square icons, white
>> with a dot in the middle.)
>
>
>It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other links
>should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the solution. I
>think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which one. Search the
>newsgroup archives. I KNOW others have had this problem and a solution's
>been posted in the past.

I tried to find a solution through Google, but the problem with Google
nowadays is there's just too much information that is NOT relevant.

MM

(Mike Mitchell)

11/22/2010 9:38:00 AM

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:47:16 -0500, "Nobody" <nobody@nobody.com>
wrote:

>"MM" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:cipie6taasaumjr93tkbe8smm19cglj337@4ax.com...
>> (I did install the MSDN Library - October 2001, but it's crap. It just
>> doesn't give the same info as 6.0a. For instance, if I click on help
>> for ListView in Windows Controls, I see the text in the right hand
>> pane of the MSDN display window, but where it should say See Also,
>> Properties, Methods, Events there are only little square icons, white
>> with a dot in the middle.)
>
>I have MSDN Library - October 2001 on XP+SP2+IE6, and I don't have this
>problem.
>
>What OS, service pack, and IE version do you have installed?

W2K, SP4, 5.50.4134.0600

MM

Brian Kelly

11/22/2010 9:59:00 AM

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MikeD wrote:
> It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other
> links should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the
> solution. I think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which
> one. Search the newsgroup archives. I KNOW others have had this
> problem and a solution's been posted in the past.

I get this problem if I view help files located on a networked drive, works
fine if I install locally.

--
Brian Kelly


(Mike Mitchell)

11/22/2010 2:23:00 PM

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:27:41 -0500, "Nobody" <nobody@nobody.com>
wrote:

>"MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> wrote in message
>news:iccah4$d2f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> It's not installed correctly. All the See Also, Examples, and other links
>> should work. I recall others having this problem, but not the solution. I
>> think it's just registering a DLL, but no idea which one. Search the
>> newsgroup archives. I KNOW others have had this problem and a solution's
>> been posted in the past.
>
>Right clicking and using "View Source" shows that "See Also" and other links
>on the top are using an object with CLSID
>{adb880a6-d8ff-11cf-9377-00aa003b7a11}. Searching the registry, shows it's
>hhctrl.ocx, which is in the System32 folder.

Problem fixed!

First, I managed to resurrect the faulty CD after all. I had
previously attempted to copy off the entire CD contents into a
temporary folder on the hard drive, but today instead of trying to
select and copy off all the files, then almost immediately hitting a
cyclic redundancy error, I copied each folder in turn, thinking maybe
most of the files are okay.

There are 27,524 files in 2,614 folders on that CD, however the vast
majority of the folders (and files contained therein) copied without
any error. In the end I had only THREE files that were causing the
cyclic redundancy error, BBOARD.DLL, MSSETUP.DLL and VSSETUP.TTF and I
figured I'd be able to find these files elsewhere.

As it turned out, after the CD had been in the drive for 45 minutes
whilst I was going through the above process, the faulty files
magically allowed themselves to be copied without error! (Maybe the CD
and/or drive had warmed up by then?)

Anyway, I burned another CD and lo and behold, it worked! The second
CD wasn't faulty, but I made a backup anyway.

However, then later this morning I installed MSDN Library Visual
Studio 6.0a, but the problem was exactly the same: No "See Also",
"Examples", etc. :(

So I checked which versions of hhctrl.ocx I had and where. The one
registered was in c:\winnt\system32 with a version number of
5.2.3790.233

However, in c:\windows\system on the same w2k machine there was
version 4.73.8412.0 sitting there. So I unregistered the one in
system32 and registered the one in system and bingo, the problem
disappeared! See Also, Examples, Properties, Methods, and Events are
now back!

By the way, when you search the internet you'll find references to MS
knowledge base articles 890175, 892675, 896358 and 896905, and I tried
one or two of the suggestions in them, but none worked to fix my
problem.

MM

Karl E. Peterson

11/22/2010 6:11:00 PM

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MM was thinking very hard :
> Problem fixed!
>
> First, I managed to resurrect the faulty CD after all.

I can't urge this strongly enough: MAKE AN ISO!!!

You can migrate these from machine to machine, without ever wondering
again whether that CD will be readable. They're *incredibly* easy to
use, with tools like VirtualCloneDrive, too.

--
..NET: It's About Trust!
http://vfre...


(Mike Mitchell)

11/22/2010 6:25:00 PM

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:11:24 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org>
wrote:

>MM was thinking very hard :
>> Problem fixed!
>>
>> First, I managed to resurrect the faulty CD after all.
>
>I can't urge this strongly enough: MAKE AN ISO!!!
>
>You can migrate these from machine to machine, without ever wondering
>again whether that CD will be readable. They're *incredibly* easy to
>use, with tools like VirtualCloneDrive, too.

Yep. You're right. I did start doing this on a rather haphazard basis,
but will now scour my shelves to pick out the CDs and DVDs I can't
afford to lose. I bought a 500gb SATA internal HD a few months ago and
it's still 4/5 empty, so there's no excuse.

Quite some time ago (couple of years) I started archiving important
floppies to hard drive. I have loads, including Basic 7.1 PDS, Masm
1.25, MusicQuest, QB 4.00B and many others, much of it on 5¼" floppy.
I still have a working 5¼" drive on a very old Viglen PC. Now, these
floppies take up VERY little space! I have a crate full, but I reckon
that if I archived all of them it would only take up half a gig.

As for using an iso, what I do at the moment is burn it to RW media
with Img Burn, which takes 15 minutes or so, depending on the max
write speed available.

I've not heard of VirtualCloneDrive before.

MM