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Modulo ?

Zayd Abdullah

3/19/2009 5:50:00 AM

Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
work?

Thanks
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7stud --

3/19/2009 6:16:00 AM

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Zayd Connor wrote:
> Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
> work?
>
> Thanks

result = 7 % 3
puts result

--output:--
1

7 has two 3's in it, and after removing those two 3's from 7, the
remainder is 1.




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Brian Adkins

3/19/2009 1:46:00 PM

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Zayd Connor <devrubygem@gmail.com> writes:

> Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
> work?

From "Discrete Mathematics by Rosen":

"Let a be an integer and m be a positive integer. We denote by a mod m
the remainder when a is divided by m.

It follows from the definition of remainder that a mod m is the
integer r such that:

a = q * m + r and 0 <= r < m "

This is all assuming you didn't type an 'o' when you meant 'e' ;)

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Robert Klemme

3/19/2009 2:25:00 PM

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On 19.03.2009 06:50, Zayd Connor wrote:
> Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
> work?

http://lmgtfy.com...

Rob Biedenharn

3/19/2009 2:40:00 PM

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On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

> On 19.03.2009 06:50, Zayd Connor wrote:
>> Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
>> work?
>
> http://lmgtfy.com...
>


This seems completely unnecessary. There was already a great response
from Brian who not only directly addressed the "modulos", but also
picked up and pointed out (subtly) that the question might have been
about "modules". Something that makes perfect sense, but I certainly
didn't see that possibility.

And did you Google modulo or module yourself to see how useful the
result really is? If you're going to simply shout lmgtfy, at least put
"ruby" in there, too (well, for module, not for modulo ;-)

-Rob

Rob Biedenharn http://agileconsult...
Rob@AgileConsultingLLC.com



Robert Klemme

3/19/2009 3:04:00 PM

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On 19.03.2009 15:40, Rob Biedenharn wrote:
> And did you Google modulo or module yourself to see how useful the
> result really is?

I did.

robert

Zayd Abdullah

3/19/2009 3:12:00 PM

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Rob Biedenharn wrote:
> On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>
>> On 19.03.2009 06:50, Zayd Connor wrote:
>>> Maybe i need to get some sleep, but can someone explain how modulos
>>> work?
>>
>> http://lmgtfy.com...
>>
>
>
> This seems completely unnecessary. There was already a great response
> from Brian who not only directly addressed the "modulos", but also
> picked up and pointed out (subtly) that the question might have been
> about "modules". Something that makes perfect sense, but I certainly
> didn't see that possibility.
>
> And did you Google modulo or module yourself to see how useful the
> result really is? If you're going to simply shout lmgtfy, at least put
> "ruby" in there, too (well, for module, not for modulo ;-)
>
> -Rob
>
> Rob Biedenharn http://agileconsult...
> Rob@AgileConsultingLLC.com

Thanks guys,(singing) I can see clearly now the rain is gone :). Maybe I
should have been more clear and added the % sign when mentioning modulo,
so I wouldn't confuse anyone thinking I meant modules :)

Thanks

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Michael Malone

3/19/2009 7:58:00 PM

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> Thanks guys,(singing) I can see clearly now the rain is gone :). Maybe I
> should have been more clear and added the % sign when mentioning modulo,
> so I wouldn't confuse anyone thinking I meant modules :)
>
> Thanks
>
>
Though there is one thing I would like to point out: 0 % 7 = 0
So 'remainder' is not strictly true

Michael


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Sebastian Hungerecker

3/19/2009 8:48:00 PM

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Michael Malone wrote:
> Though there is one thing I would like to point out: 0 % 7 = 0
> So 'remainder' is not strictly true

Sorry I don't follow you. What's the remainder of 0/7 if not 0?
0-7*0 is 0, is it not?

Confused,
Sebastian

Michael Malone

3/19/2009 9:08:00 PM

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Sebastian Hungerecker wrote:
> Michael Malone wrote:
>
>> Though there is one thing I would like to point out: 0 % 7 = 0
>> So 'remainder' is not strictly true
>>
>
> Sorry I don't follow you. What's the remainder of 0/7 if not 0?
> 0-7*0 is 0, is it not?
>
> Confused,
> Sebastian
>
>
Many people I know and work with simplify the modulo operator to
themselves as remainder, so mentally (whether or not it is correct)
assume 0/7 = 0 r 7
I am just making an explicit example of this not necessarily obvious
case. It's totally fine when one knows the semantics of modulo, it's
the simplification to remainder that many people make that causes
problems here.

Michael

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Rob Biedenharn

3/19/2009 9:42:00 PM

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On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Michael Malone wrote:

> Sebastian Hungerecker wrote:
>> Michael Malone wrote:
>>
>>> Though there is one thing I would like to point out: 0 % 7 = 0
>>> So 'remainder' is not strictly true
>>>
>>
>> Sorry I don't follow you. What's the remainder of 0/7 if not 0?
>> 0-7*0 is 0, is it not?
>>
>> Confused,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
> Many people I know and work with simplify the modulo operator to
> themselves as remainder, so mentally (whether or not it is correct)
> assume 0/7 = 0 r 7
> I am just making an explicit example of this not necessarily obvious
> case. It's totally fine when one knows the semantics of modulo,
> it's the simplification to remainder that many people make that
> causes problems here.
>
> Michael


[I hope this survives email formatting...]

__0_r_0_
7 ) 0
0*7 => -0
==
0

Just because people can't understand division and remainders isn't
enough to keep them away from technical discussions. The original
response (which I deleted months ago [or was that yesterday?]) had an
accurate definition.

-Rob

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