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[ANN] MacRuby 0.4

Laurent Sansonetti

3/9/2009 6:51:00 AM

Hi,

After several months of development and some slight delays, MacRuby
0.4 is now available. Get it here while it's still hot!

MacRuby is a version of Ruby 1.9, ported to run directly on top of Mac
OS X core technologies such as the Objective-C common runtime and
garbage collector, and the CoreFoundation framework. While still a
work in progress, it is the goal of MacRuby to enable the creation of
full-fledged Mac OS X applications which do not sacrifice performance
in order to enjoy the benefits of using Ruby.

You can learn more about MacRuby, and download a binary installer,
from the website:

http://ruby.maco...

Or about this release more specifically, on our blog:

http://www.macruby.org/post/...

Enjoy,

Laurent
26 Answers

Chuck Remes

3/9/2009 11:50:00 AM

0


On Mar 9, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Laurent Sansonetti wrote:

> MacRuby is a version of Ruby 1.9, ported to run directly on top of Mac
> OS X core technologies such as the Objective-C common runtime and
> garbage collector, and the CoreFoundation framework. While still a
> work in progress, it is the goal of MacRuby to enable the creation of
> full-fledged Mac OS X applications which do not sacrifice performance
> in order to enjoy the benefits of using Ruby.
>
> You can learn more about MacRuby, and download a binary installer,
> from the website:
>
> http://ruby.maco...

Awesome news! Thanks for your hard work.

cr

Diego Virasoro

3/9/2009 12:31:00 PM

0

Hi,
great news! Thanks a lot.

Any idea when MacRuby 0.5 should be out? Do you think its performance
will be approx as the official Ruby or is that still a long way away?

Apologies if this sounds "ungrateful". I think what you are doing is
really great, it's just that as soon as it's comparable to the
official Ruby, I am planning to move to it for my own projects. :)

Thank you

Diego

Kevin Walzer

3/9/2009 3:00:00 PM

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Laurent,

Laurent Sansonetti wrote:

>
> MacRuby is a version of Ruby 1.9, ported to run directly on top of Mac
> OS X core technologies such as the Objective-C common runtime and
> garbage collector, and the CoreFoundation framework. While still a
> work in progress, it is the goal of MacRuby to enable the creation of
> full-fledged Mac OS X applications which do not sacrifice performance
> in order to enjoy the benefits of using Ruby.


MacRuby is an interesting project. I see that it is installable as a
framework in /Library/Frameworks. I am curious about one thing: have you
thought about contributing the build/configure bits that allow MacRuby
to be built as a framework back to the main Ruby developers, so that
mainline Ruby itself can be built as a framework? Apple's system build
of Ruby builds in this fashion as well. However, as far as I can tell,
these kinds of builds are not supported by mainline Ruby on OS X.

It would be great if one could download the current stable version of
Ruby, and run "./configure --enable-framework" and have everything build
and install in /Library/Frameworks, perhaps with symlinks in
/usr/local/bin for the executables. Python and Tcl on the Mac already
have this capability, and since it appears the work to get Ruby set up
as a (non-system) framework has already been done, it should just be a
matter of getting it fed upstream and committed.

The benefits of this for developers are numerous. It would build Ruby in
a Mac-standard fashion, and it would make deploying standalone
applications that rely on Ruby a simpler process.

Thoughts or suggestions about this are appreciated.

Regards,
Kevin

--
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codeb...

John T.

3/10/2009 5:35:00 AM

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Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After several months of development and some slight delays, MacRuby
> 0.4 is now available. Get it here while it's still hot!
>


Hm. I guess I missed the bit where it says that 0.4 is Intel only. Ran
the installer on a Powerbook G4 then tried using the 'macirb' command
only to get:

-bash: /usr/local/bin/macirb:
/Library/Frameworks/MacRuby.framework/Versions/0.4/usr/bin/macruby: bad
interpreter: Bad CPU type in executable


Guess I have to see if I can get it built for non-intel.
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Tony Arcieri

3/10/2009 5:51:00 AM

0

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

Hi, one thing I've been particularly curious about in regard to MacRuby...

I've noticed the "autozone" garbage collector for Objective C has been
released as open source:

http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/auto...

How difficult would it to be to use this as the garbage collector for
MacRuby? I'm particularly interested in MacRuby on the iPhone... does open
source autozone actually help, or do you need it as a cohesive part of the
Objective C runtime?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Laurent Sansonetti <
laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After several months of development and some slight delays, MacRuby
> 0.4 is now available. Get it here while it's still hot!
>
> MacRuby is a version of Ruby 1.9, ported to run directly on top of Mac
> OS X core technologies such as the Objective-C common runtime and
> garbage collector, and the CoreFoundation framework. While still a
> work in progress, it is the goal of MacRuby to enable the creation of
> full-fledged Mac OS X applications which do not sacrifice performance
> in order to enjoy the benefits of using Ruby.
>
> You can learn more about MacRuby, and download a binary installer,
> from the website:
>
> http://ruby.maco...
>
> Or about this release more specifically, on our blog:
>
> http://www.macruby.org/post/...
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Laurent
>
>


--
Tony Arcieri
medioh.com

Rick DeNatale

3/10/2009 11:51:00 AM

0

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony@medioh.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, one thing I've been particularly curious about in regard to MacRuby...
>
> I've noticed the "autozone" garbage collector for Objective C has been
> released as open source:
>
> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/auto...
>
> How difficult would it to be to use this as the garbage collector for
> MacRuby?


If you read the readme.txt I think you'll find that it IS being used by
MacRuby. In fact as I understand it autozone is a spin-off from the MacRuby
project which Laurent factored out for more general use.

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Roger Pack

3/10/2009 12:51:00 PM

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> MacRuby is an interesting project. I see that it is installable as a
> framework in /Library/Frameworks. I am curious about one thing: have you
> thought about contributing the build/configure bits that allow MacRuby
> to be built as a framework back to the main Ruby developers, so that
> mainline Ruby itself can be built as a framework? Apple's system build
> of Ruby builds in this fashion as well. However, as far as I can tell,
> these kinds of builds are not supported by mainline Ruby on OS X.

It would be interesting if there were a port of macruby to vanilla Linux
so the rest of us could try it and see if the GC is indeed faster :)
Anyway thanks for the hard work.

-=r
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Ryan Davis

3/10/2009 5:37:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 2009, at 05:51 , Roger Pack wrote:

> It would be interesting if there were a port of macruby to vanilla
> Linux
> so the rest of us could try it and see if the GC is indeed faster :)
> Anyway thanks for the hard work.

I'm sure patches are welcome...

Tony Arcieri

3/10/2009 5:42:00 PM

0

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

> If you read the readme.txt I think you'll find that it IS being used by
> MacRuby. In fact as I understand it autozone is a spin-off from the
> MacRuby
> project which Laurent factored out for more general use.
>

I see, my apologies.

Does this mean MacRuby could potentially work on iPhones now?

--
Tony Arcieri
medioh.com

Rob Biedenharn

3/10/2009 6:06:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Tony Arcieri wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>> If you read the readme.txt I think you'll find that it IS being
>> used by
>> MacRuby. In fact as I understand it autozone is a spin-off from the
>> MacRuby
>> project which Laurent factored out for more general use.
>
> I see, my apologies.
>
> Does this mean MacRuby could potentially work on iPhones now?
>
> --
> Tony Arcieri
> medioh.com


At RubyConf2008, Laurent's response to that kind of inquiry was: "Next
question."

-Rob

Rob Biedenharn http://agileconsult...
Rob@AgileConsultingLLC.com