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[ANN] Letter writing campaign to Jim

Aaron Patterson

2/26/2009 6:33:00 PM

"Rake version 0.8.4 has been released!" is what you would be reading if
we can get Jim to release a new version of Rake.

We've all put up with this warning, long enough!

/Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/rake-0.8.3/lib/rake/gempackagetask.rb:13:Warning:
Gem::manage_gems is deprecated and will be removed on or after March
2009.

It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you love
and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! I've
already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send Jim
letters, but that isn't enough. I need your help!

Once we send Jim enough letters, I'm sure he'll release a "warning free"
version of Rake!

I've posted more information, along with the address where you can reach
Jim on my blog:

http://tenderlovem...2009/02/26/we-need-a-new-versio...

Please help! Together we can build a "warning free" future for our
children, and our children's children!

--
Aaron Patterson
http://tenderlovem...
15 Answers

Gregory Brown

2/26/2009 7:38:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
<aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:

> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you love
> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! =A0I've
> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send Jim
> letters, but that isn't enough. =A0I need your help!

Hahahaha, that's awesome.

Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?

-greg

Aaron Turner

2/26/2009 8:49:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gregory Brown
<gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
> <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>
>> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you love
>> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! =A0I've
>> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send Jim
>> letters, but that isn't enough. =A0I need your help!
>
> Hahahaha, that's awesome.
>
> Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?

+1

Save a tree. Write code. It's ruby, not rocket science.

--=20
Aaron Turner
http://s...
http://tcpreplay.s... - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & Win=
dows
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin

Gregory Brown

2/26/2009 8:57:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Aaron Turner <synfinatic@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gregory Brown
> <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
>> <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you love
>>> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! =A0I've
>>> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send Ji=
m
>>> letters, but that isn't enough. =A0I need your help!
>>
>> Hahahaha, that's awesome.
>>
>> Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?
>
> +1
>
> Save a tree. =A0Write code. =A0It's ruby, not rocket science.

FWIW, you can never be sure with Jim:
http://onestepback.org/index.cgi/Tech/Programming/SoftwareDeve...

-greg

Aaron Patterson

2/26/2009 9:12:00 PM

0

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:49:08AM +0900, Aaron Turner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gregory Brown
> <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
> > <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you love
> >> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version!  I've
> >> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send Jim
> >> letters, but that isn't enough.  I need your help!
> >
> > Hahahaha, that's awesome.
> >
> > Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?
>
> +1
>
> Save a tree. Write code. It's ruby, not rocket science.

Jim has already fixed the problem. It just isn't released yet:

http://github.com/jimweirich/rake/commit/dd9c844defd723ab541d5c86ff0465c9dcf7047f#com...

--
Aaron Patterson
http://tenderlovem...

Aaron Turner

2/26/2009 10:10:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Aaron Patterson
<aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:49:08AM +0900, Aaron Turner wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gregory Brown
>> <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
>> > <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you lov=
e
>> >> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! =A0I've
>> >> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send =
Jim
>> >> letters, but that isn't enough. =A0I need your help!
>> >
>> > Hahahaha, that's awesome.
>> >
>> > Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Save a tree. =A0Write code. =A0It's ruby, not rocket science.
>
> Jim has already fixed the problem. =A0It just isn't released yet:
>
> =A0http://github.com/jimweirich/rake/commit/dd9c844defd723ab541d...
5c9dcf7047f#comment_15642


Wait.. this is all about FIVE LINES of code (really, 4 lines + 1
comment) and it's already committed to github?

*facepalm*

--=20
Aaron Turner
http://s...
http://tcpreplay.s... - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & Win=
dows
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin

Jason Roelofs

2/26/2009 10:17:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Aaron Turner <synfinatic@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Aaron Patterson
> <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:49:08AM +0900, Aaron Turner wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gregory Brown
>>> <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Aaron Patterson
>>> > <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> It's time to take action by writing Jim, telling him how much you lo=
ve
>>> >> and use rake, and asking him to kindly release a new version! =A0I'v=
e
>>> >> already <strike>forced</strike> asked everyone at Seattle.rb to send=
Jim
>>> >> letters, but that isn't enough. =A0I need your help!
>>> >
>>> > Hahahaha, that's awesome.
>>> >
>>> > Letters are nice, but have you sent him a patch?
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Save a tree. =A0Write code. =A0It's ruby, not rocket science.
>>
>> Jim has already fixed the problem. =A0It just isn't released yet:
>>
>> =A0http://github.com/jimweirich/rake/commit/dd9c844defd723ab541...
65c9dcf7047f#comment_15642
>
>
> Wait.. this is all about FIVE LINES of code (really, 4 lines + 1
> comment) and it's already committed to github?
>
> *facepalm*
>
> --
> Aaron Turner
> http://s...
> http://tcpreplay.s... - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & W=
indows
> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety,
> deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
> =A0 =A0-- Benjamin Franklin
>
>

I don't see what's so /facepalm about this. We need a new official
release. Or do you intend to have *everyone* reinstall rake via a gem
built from someone's fork on Github? I'd much prefer to simply upgrade
my current gem.

Jason

Ben Bleything

2/26/2009 10:21:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Aaron Turner <synfinatic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait.. this is all about FIVE LINES of code (really, 4 lines + 1
> comment) and it's already committed to github?
>
> *facepalm*

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make... yes it's already
committed, but it hasn't been released. Until it's released (which
only Jim can do!), it remains broken for everyone who uses rake and
rubygems together.

Surely you're not suggesting that rake be forked and released (in
username-rake) form instead of being released properly by the
project's maintainer...?

Ben

Gregory Brown

2/26/2009 10:43:00 PM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Aaron Patterson
<aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:

> Jim has already fixed the problem. =A0It just isn't released yet:
>
> =A0http://github.com/jimweirich/rake/commit/dd9c844defd723ab541d...
5c9dcf7047f#comment_15642

Ah... In that case, I better get out the fancy stationary then...

-greg

Aaron Patterson

2/26/2009 11:15:00 PM

0

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:43:16AM +0900, Gregory Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Aaron Patterson
> <aaron@tenderlovemaking.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim has already fixed the problem.  It just isn't released yet:
> >
> >  http://github.com/jimweirich/rake/commit/dd9c844defd723ab541d5c86ff0465c9dcf7047f#com...
>
> Ah... In that case, I better get out the fancy stationary then...

I recommend something with kittens. Mine was a Geoduck because they
look weird and are native to the Puget Sound.

--
Aaron Patterson
http://tenderlovem...

Aaron Turner

2/27/2009 1:27:00 AM

0

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Ben Bleything <ben@bleything.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Aaron Turner <synfinatic@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> Wait.. this is all about FIVE LINES of code (really, 4 lines + 1
>> comment) and it's already committed to github?
>>
>> *facepalm*
>
> I'm not sure what point you're trying to make... yes it's already
> committed, but it hasn't been released. =A0Until it's released (which
> only Jim can do!), it remains broken for everyone who uses rake and
> rubygems together.

According to the OP it's not broken, it's merely a warning of things
to come. Please stop dumping gas on the fire.

> Surely you're not suggesting that rake be forked and released (in
> username-rake) form instead of being released properly by the
> project's maintainer...?

No, that would be asinine.

I am saying that clearly Jim is aware of the problem (he already
committed the fix right?) so why the public spectacle/fear-mongering
that the world is going to end unless Jim acts now? Based on the OP
this sounded like a huge coding effort, not something any user could
fix in 30seconds if it actually bit them.

Basically this hit a pet peeve of mine how lately users of open source
software seem to becoming more and more demanding of developers. Do
this NOW! What's taking so long? Hurry up! Why won't you help me?
I don't care if you have a life, my project is a priority!

Anyways, I see Jim is going to have a release out soon. I hope he
enjoys the letters.

--=20
Aaron Turner
http://s...
http://tcpreplay.s... - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & Win=
dows
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin