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PAUL CLEMENT (MVP) IS A TROLL

Mike Williams

8/26/2010 1:50:00 PM

Does anybody know who I can write to at Microsoft in order to ask them to
stop one of their own MVPs, PAUL CLEMENT, from trolling this newsgroup. He
is a disgrace to himself and he is both a disgrace and a liability to
Microsoft and he is bringing the Microsoft MVP system into disrepute.

Mike


31 Answers

Evolution

1/29/2009 5:13:00 PM

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Dan wrote:
> Denise wrote:
>> On 29 Jan, 02:43, Evolution <myn...@rcn.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/01/28/armey_wal......
>>>
>>
>> Saw this live and couldn't believe even Armey could be that much of a
>> doofus.
>>
>> Between him and that Gingrey guy and Limbaugh, you can just pop up
>> some popcorn, sit back in the recliner and laugh your ass off at the
>> losers.
>>
>
>
>
> I saw that last night, too. What a rude prick Armey is!
>
> Rush Limbaugh is an actor. He is playing a character. He is an
> entertainer. Watch this early interview with him as he explains his role:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...
>
> The way that the GOP lets a radio personality lead them around by the
> nose is both laughable and truly, truly bizarre.
>
> Armey should apologize, and Gingrey should just plain resign. A grown
> man bowing and licking the boots of a radio talking-head is pathetic and
> unbecoming of an adult human being, let alone a member of Congress.
>
>
>
>

Well, look. All the republicans stand for is making the rich get
richer. There aren't that many rich people to vote for them, so they
have to make alliances with the religious wrong, and people like
Limbaugh who push those hot buttons and get people to vote against their
own economic interests. They need Limbaugh as much as they need the
televangelists and Rove.



--
Laurie

http://lauriehester.blo...

Tom Shelton

8/26/2010 2:19:00 PM

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Mike Williams wrote on 8/26/2010 :
> Does anybody know who I can write to at Microsoft in order to ask them to
> stop one of their own MVPs, PAUL CLEMENT, from trolling this newsgroup. He is
> a disgrace to himself and he is both a disgrace and a liability to Microsoft
> and he is bringing the Microsoft MVP system into disrepute.
>
> Mike

As a former MVP yourself, Mike - you should know.

--
Tom Shelton


Mike Williams

8/26/2010 2:39:00 PM

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"Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
news:i55t50$j9i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Mike Williams wrote on 8/26/2010 :
>> Does anybody know who I can write to at Microsoft in order
>> to ask them to stop one of their own MVPs, PAUL CLEMENT,
>> from trolling this newsgroup. He is a disgrace to himself and he
>> is both a disgrace and a liability to Microsoft and he is bringing
>> the Microsoft MVP system into disrepute.
>> Mike
>
> As a former MVP yourself, Mike - you should know.

Were you ever an MVP, Tom, or were you just a troll? I notice from a recent
response of yours to one of my messages that you have given up your troll
activities, which is certainly good news. It's a pity that your friend Paul
Clement, who is both an MVP and a troll, does not follow your lead. Is there
any chance you could persuade him to do so?

Mike


Tom Shelton

8/26/2010 3:22:00 PM

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Mike Williams formulated on Thursday :
> "Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i55t50$j9i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Mike Williams wrote on 8/26/2010 :
>>> Does anybody know who I can write to at Microsoft in order
>>> to ask them to stop one of their own MVPs, PAUL CLEMENT,
>>> from trolling this newsgroup. He is a disgrace to himself and he
>>> is both a disgrace and a liability to Microsoft and he is bringing
>>> the Microsoft MVP system into disrepute.
>>> Mike
>>
>> As a former MVP yourself, Mike - you should know.
>
> Were you ever an MVP, Tom, or were you just a troll?

I was an MVP, yes. It's been a about 4 years ago now. I wasn't really
that active in the community again until about a year or so ago. Too
much real life got in the way :)

>I notice from a recent
> response of yours to one of my messages that you have given up your troll
> activities, which is certainly good news.

Well, let's get something straight... I did not start out trolling. I
only participated in discussions that I did not start. And only jumped
in when I felt that there was FUD and misinformation being posted. I
absolutely did not, as Kevin likes to claim, make a habbit of posting
newer vb answers to vb.classic questions - especially under the guise
of posting to the wrong group.... Anyone willing to do a google search
can confirm that. In fact, you are the one that percipitated that
claim - and that was in the comp.lang.basic.visual.misc, not here.

The only reason I started doing a bit of nose tweaking of late was
because of you and Kevin's over the top responses. I certainly don't
care if you want to continue to use VB.CLASSIC from now until the end
of time. Nor do I care what you think about it. But, your responses
were so over the top as to be funny - but, the problem is that I found
myself becomming a bit of a jerk in the process (or maybe my darker
side began to surface :) ). And, so then it became un-fun. So, the
easist way to avoid confrontation, is to simply refuse to get involved
in certain topics of discussion. And, that's what I'm doing.

> It's a pity that your friend Paul
> Clement,

He's not my friend. I don't know Paul personally.

>who is both an MVP and a troll, does not follow your lead. Is there
> any chance you could persuade him to do so?

Nope. Paul does what Paul does.

--
Tom Shelton


Stan Weiss

8/26/2010 3:55:00 PM

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Mike Williams wrote:

> Does anybody know who I can write to at Microsoft in order to ask them
> to stop one of their own MVPs, PAUL CLEMENT, from trolling this
> newsgroup. He is a disgrace to himself and he is both a disgrace and a
> liability to Microsoft and he is bringing the Microsoft MVP system into
> disrepute.
>
> Mike
>
>

Mike,
It looks like you have some anger issues. You want to do the job of a
moderator but this is not a moderated group. You come off just as bad as
those you are up in arms off.
Stan

dpb

8/26/2010 4:19:00 PM

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Mike Williams wrote:
....
Give it a rest, Mike....quit feeding/baiting the trolls yourself and
they'll gradually fade away. To help in the self-control end, put a
filter in your newsreader to ignore threads or simply killfile those you
don't want to see....

-dpb

--

Mike Williams

8/26/2010 6:12:00 PM

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"Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
news:i560ru$mrg$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Well, let's get something straight...
> I did not start out trolling.

Right. Well that's just about as close as you can get to admitting that you
did /end up/ trolling.

Thank you for your frank admission.

Mike



Mike Williams

8/26/2010 6:19:00 PM

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"dpb" <none@non.net> wrote in message
news:i564bo$ke1$3@news.eternal-september.org...

> Give it a rest, Mike....quit feeding/baiting the trolls
> yourself and they'll gradually fade away.

Well I tried that once and it did not actually work. In fact it was partly
due to my own and Kevin's insistence on taking on the rolls head on that Tom
Shelton decided to quit the practice, and why Tommy Senn also quit, and why
Cor ligthert did the same. Three down, one to go.

Mike



Tom Shelton

8/26/2010 6:24:00 PM

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It happens that Mike Williams formulated :
> "dpb" <none@non.net> wrote in message
> news:i564bo$ke1$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Give it a rest, Mike....quit feeding/baiting the trolls
>> yourself and they'll gradually fade away.
>
> Well I tried that once and it did not actually work. In fact it was partly
> due to my own and Kevin's insistence on taking on the rolls head on that Tom
> Shelton decided to quit the practice, and why Tommy Senn also quit, and why
> Cor ligthert did the same. Three down, one to go.
>

Lol... No, it was your practices that made me start. It was my own
conscience that made me quite.

--
Tom Shelton


Mike Williams

8/26/2010 7:05:00 PM

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"Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
news:i56bg7$std$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Lol... No, it was your practices that made me start.
> It was my own conscience that made me quite.

And what do you reckon made Tommy Senn and Cor Ligthert quit? Do you think
they had a sudden attack of conscience too? And what about the troll Paul
Clement? Do you think he might have a conscience as well? I certainly hope
so, although I think it is unlikely.

Mike