Barry OGrady
12/17/2013 9:46:00 AM
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:09:47 -0800 (PST), gladys swager
<gswager@gmail.com> wrote:
Gladies, I asked you nicely,
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Gladies, if you quote any of this post
PLEASE DON'T TRASH THE FORMATTING!
Take responsibility for your own actions.
Don't be like God.
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Have you ever thought about taking responsibility for your own
actions?
>On Tuesday, December 17, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 201, gladys swager wrote:
>
>Don't be like God.
I won't. You shouldn't either.
>>Dinosaurs went extinct millions of years before Australia existed. I knew that but thank you for reminding me
What would you think of someone who trashes the formatting even
after being asked nicely to use normal quoting?
>Why do people laugh at creationists?
Because they are idiots that never grew out of their imaginary friend.
>Evolution is the best supported scientific theory. All evidence points
>to evolution and no serious alternatives have been offered.
I know that but it is good to see you acknowledge that fact.
Bringing out your atheist personality again, Gladies.
>Our week days are named after gods.
I told you that.
>Granted.
>And the Evolutionists have been out in force since the publication
>of C.Darwin's Origin of the Species. And as far as I have read in
>respect of C.Darwin his research was not to a great depth...or
>width...or height...
>But he said he knew in the Origin of the species...and there were
>people who believed him. And there are still people who believe him.
Such an amazing man, and creationists have the audacity to
put him down because he could see beyond their bullshit.
Are you aware that Darwin's theory has been confirmed by new
scientific and biological developments?
As well as that no serious alternatives to evolution have been
offered.
See the end of this post for some wonderful words from Darwin.
>And there are people who....do not want to look at the alternative
>understanding. B.O'G. being one of them.
>Why won't you investigate the other understandings, b.O'G?
The fact that no serious alternatives to evolution have been offered
should tell you something.
>Amazing!!!???
Is what amazing???
>...how much can come from....
> nobody made something out of nothing at the beginning of time!!!
In all my years on a farm I never saw magical creation.
>When did the Evolutionary changes, that you say did occur,....
>....when did you say they ceased occurring??
I didn't.
>We have precous little information for 10 000 to 4 00 years ago...
>how is it that evolutionists say they have so much information
>before 10 000 years ago.
You will find that out at your museum visit.
Hint: Investigate fossil record and the various dating methods.
>Barry, i grew up in an outer Sydney suburb, much bushland,
>walked along bush tracks nearly all the way to Primary school.
>Left windows open throughout hot Summer (heat-wave) nights.
>....without any fears.
>
>The wonderful post WW2 years just did not eventuate.....
> some say, "We are still waiting!!
God let us all down Gladies.
You must have known God could not be trusted.
God caused all our troubles after it went psycho and trashed
everything good.
>Barry, I have experienced a lot in my 85 plus some weeks of my life....
You look older than 85 weeks in your picture.
Is that your mental age?
>but I have never seesn seen a plant or an animal in the process of evolving
>into another plant or animal at any time in all teh times I have been
>out in teh bush, on a seashore, or any other! Have you???
I can't comment because you have never told me what a teh is.
>. If you are of the opinion that evolution ceased...
>please give a date for the cessation, reasons and evidnece!!!
>
>Until you/and your evolutionary mates can do that ...
>and with actual Scientific evidence then p.s.u.
I am not of the opinion that evolution ceased.
Where do you get your straw from Gladies?
Do you build your own strawmen or do get them from
Creation Ministries xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?
Darwin was an amazing man. He brought enlightenment
when it was a crime to speak against the prevailing view.
Unfortunately groups like Creation Ministries Irrational
want to drag us back to those dark times.
Read below and marvel at how intelligent Darwin was.
Charles Darwin wrote.
?I had gradually come, by this time [i.e. January 1839, when he
was 29?Ed.], to see that the Old Testament from its manifestly false
history of the world, with the Tower of Babel, the rainbow as a sign,
etc., etc., and from its attributing to God the feelings of a
revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted than the sacred books of
the Hindus, or the beliefs of any barbarian.'
?[T]he more we know of the fixed laws of nature the more
incredible do miracles become,?that the men at that time were ignorant
and credulous to a degree almost incomprehensible by us,?that the
Gospels cannot be proved to have been written simultaneously with the
events,?that they differ in many important details, far too important
as it seemed to me to be admitted as the usual inaccuracies of
eye-witnesses;?by such reflections as these ? I gradually came to
disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation.'
?I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to
be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that
the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother
and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And
this is a damnable doctrine.?
?The old argument of design in nature, as given by Paley, which
formerly seemed to me so conclusive, fails, now that the law of
natural selection has been discovered. We can no longer argue that,
for instance, the beautiful hinge of a bivalve shell must have been
made by an intelligent being, like the hinge of a door by man. ?
Everything in nature is the result of fixed laws.?
?If the truth of this conclusion be granted [i.e. that there is
more happiness than misery in the world], it harmonises well with the
effects which we might expect from natural selection. If all the
individuals of any species were habitually to suffer to an extreme
degree they would neglect to propagate their kind ? .? He then added
that many sentient beings ?occasionally suffer much. Such suffering,
is quite compatible with the belief in Natural Selection, which is not
perfect in its action ? .? He continued, ?A being so powerful and so
full of knowledge as a God who could create the universe, is to our
finite minds omnipotent and omniscient, and it revolts our
understanding to suppose that his benevolence is not unbounded, for
what advantage can there be in the sufferings of millions of the lower
animals throughout almost endless time??
?But it cannot be doubted that Hindus, Mahomadans [sic] and
others might argue in the same manner and with equal force in favour
of the existence of one God, or of many Gods, or as with the Buddhists
of no God. There are also many barbarian tribes who cannot be said
with any truth to believe in what we call God: they believe indeed in
spirits or ghosts, and it can be explained, as Tyler and Herbert
Spencer have shown,11 how such a belief would be likely to arise.?
?[C]an the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been
developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animal,
be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions??
Regarding children
?[I]t would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in
God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a
snake.?
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Luke 1:35 has an interesting take on how Mary stayed a virgin.
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be
called the Son of God.
Come is a euphemism for ejaculate, so the Holy Ghost ejaculated
upon Mary rather than inside her, and the semen must have found
its way into her vagina, thus her hymen remained intact leaving her
technically a virgin. Jesus was born by Cesarian thus again leaving
her hymen intact.