Jason
2/22/2012 9:36:00 AM
In article <2ac8k71gehmi2cag14045absk0ndlgkid8@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
<lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:21:21 -0800, Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> alt.talk.creationism:
>
> >In article <dfritzin-3F8FD1.09164121022012@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article
> >> <Jason-2002121522450001@67-150-168-157.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <dfritzin-736A4A.06515620022012@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> > David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > In article <Jason-2002120029400001@66.53.221.239>,
> >> > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > In article
> >> > > > <412ff5c3-cb89-4484-a161-d014da687a90@t5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> >> > > > Devils
> >> > > > Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On Feb 20, 7:23=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > > > > > In article <4F41B4C8.AD586...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
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> >> > > > > > <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > Jason wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > In article
<Xns9FFE5183E191Enomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> >> > Mitche=
> >> > > > > ll
> >> > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
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> >> > <dfritzin-4EB826.09475717022...@news.eternal-september.org>, D=
> >> > > > > avid
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > American presidents appear to me to have the divine
> >> > right o=
> >> > > > > f
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > kings.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> However, since you are so wrong about so many things,
> >> > why sho=
> >> > > > > uld
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> we believe you on this. In fact, this is yet another
> >> > instance
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> where you make a statement with no basis in
fact. IOW,
> >> > you ar=
> >> > > > > e
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> wrong again.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > We both know that the pilot of Air Force One does
> >not have
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > to
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > follow the same rules that other pilots have to
follow.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> =A0 =A0 What rules has AF1 ever violated?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > None--since the federal government writes the rules
> >> > related to Ai=
> >> > > > > r
> >> > > > > > > > > > Force One.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 Bingo. AF1 is obeying the rules wherever it goes.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > That's correct. Now you see my point--God makes his own rules
> >> > and as =
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > result does not have to follow the 10 commandments or any
> >> > other laws =
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > rules that he established for mankind.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Point? You still don't understand that AF1 carries the
President
> >> > and ha=
> >> > > > > s
> >> > > > > > > enhanced security.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > You still don't understand that God is in charge of the
entire solar
> >> > > > > > system and universe so as a result makes up his own laws.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Like I have said before.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Your god exhibits parental duplicity.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A father and mother can drive the family car and drink wine.
Should they
> >> > > > allow their 14 year old child to follow their example.
> >> > >
> >> > > When they get old enough, yes. As usual, your analogy is really,
really
> >> > > bad.
> >> >
> >> > Good answer. When we reach spiritual maturity, we can also ignore
any laws
> >> > that God established for mankind.
> >>
> >> Sorry, but that doesn't work. You are saying that some day, it will be
> >> OK for humans to wantonly kill other humans. Is that really what you
> >> want to say?
> >>
> >> As I said, you are really, really bad at analogies.
> >
> >
> >A person that reaches true spiritual maturity would NOT do it unless God
> >told him to do it. The best examples are the prophets mentioned in the old
> >testament. The prophets only told Jewish Kings to do it after they
> >received messages from God. Upon request, I will provide an excellent
> >example.
> >
> How can you tell the difference between an insane murderer who claims
> God told him to murder and a "spiritually mature" murderer who claims
> God told him to murder?
It's fairly easy for most conservative preachers and myself to figure it
out. In most cases, they are insane murderers.