Mitchell Holman
7/7/2012 12:03:00 PM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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> On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 15:44:03 -0700 (PDT), Bruce WeinSteen
> <agamemnon48a@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 6, 4:17?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:34:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
>>> >news:7rldv7pq0sar0abshd7pcsg690oosm4it3@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> >> On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 14:29:43 -0400, "arjay" <ar...@hobbiton.net>
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>douche <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:coh6v7h9lhg1qej1ophqop1uu978udofss@4ax.com...
>>> >>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:29:10 -0400, "arjay" <ar...@hobbiton.net>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>the slug <barker...@erinot.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>news:T76dnY-EjJCQGHLSnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@posted.localnet...
>>> >>>>>> "arjay" <ar...@hobbiton.net> wrote
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Deacons are doing a wonderful job of alternative to a
>>> >>>>>>>> priest as the priesthood continues to grow again.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> They are alternatives with crucial limitations. ?Or has the
>>> >>>>>>> supply of consecrated Eucharistic hosts somehow been
>>> >>>>>>> magically replenished? ?And maybe
>>> >>>>>>> hearing confessions is no longer deemed necessary to the
>>> >>>>>>> spiritual life of parishioners.
>>>
>>> >>>>>> First of all, a priest can consecrate a hundred or a thousand
>>> >>>>>> Eucharistic hosts at one time.
>>>
>>> >>>>>I'm well aware of the Mass of the Presanctified, slug. ?I was a
>>> >>>>>dutiful Mass
>>> >>>>>server in the days before Vatican 2. ?But in those days, when
>>> >>>>>there were priests a-plenty, the only deacons were fellows well
>>> >>>>>on their ways to ordination and doing some parish work to gain
>>> >>>>>some supervised field experience, and the RCC was opening new
>>> >>>>>parishes -- not closing them. But those were the days when
>>> >>>>>consecrating the Eucharist was part of the Mass -- not part of
>>> >>>>>a chain of supply.
>>>
>>> >>>> It still is. ? Most parishes, especially around me, have 4
>>> >>>> masses on weekends and at least 1 and some 2 on each weekday
>>> >>>> for a total of 6 days, and some all 7 days.
>>>
>>> >>>And you go to all of them, don't you, earl?
>>>
>>> >> No, just one a day.
>>>
>>> >>>Sorry to disappoint you in your eager rush to supply me with
>>> >>>information you believe me to lack, but I've known since my own
>>> >>>First Communion that the Consecration of the Eucharist, followed
>>> >>>by the Communion of the Faithful, is a necessary part, a defining
>>> >>>characteristic of _every_ Mass -- except, formerly, the so-called
>>> >>>Mass of the Presanctified. ?It was never, by standard definition,
>>> >>>a Mass at all. ?But it was called so for over 300 years.
>>>
>>> >> Then why did you bring it up? ?Personally, I think you just
>>> >> strained your budget on Catholic knowledge.
>>> > ? ?"Catholic knowledge"
>>> > ? ?Oxymoron?
>>>
>>> God likes it.
>
>>God doesn't "employ" people. He doesn't pay them a wage.
>
>>If a Catholic Priest is a child molester, he is a denizen of God and
>>the Catholic Church.
>
> No, if a Jew molests a child, he is a man who is Jew, not a Jew who is
> man.
>
But if the Pope protects a pedophile he is still
Gods representative on Earth?