Bruce Dawkins
10/1/2007 4:50:00 AM
Chom Noamsky <b@t.me> wrote:
>
> "Bruce Dawkins" <bruce.dawkins022@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.216a27df2179b2a498995d@news.individual.net...
> > Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Viejo Vizcacha" <elbie_jovis_kasha@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:71ad8$47003a7a$cf703803$9954@PRIMUS.CA...
> >> > Jerry Okamura wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Viejo Vizcacha" <nats_uglyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1191192615.206684.46540@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>> On Sep 30, 6:32 pm, "Chom Noamsky" <b...@t.me> wrote:
> >> >>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> news:470019a6$0$11017$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > "Chom Noamsky" <b...@t.me> wrote in message
> >> >>>> >news:cSQLi.128045$bO6.17@edtnps89...
> >> >>>> >> <anonym...@dizum.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>> >>news:uWLLi.628631$Bo7.169758@fe07.news.easynews.com...
> >> >>>> >>> Leftist, anti-US skeptics have long claimed that ballistic
> >> >>>> >>> missile
> >> >>>> >>> de fence was a fantasy and would never work. Now they have
> >> >>>> >>> conclusively been proved wrong again just as they have
> >> >>>> >>> on everything else.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >> Clown, Chinese and Russians have already developed and tested BMD
> >> >>>> >> countermeasures. Decoys, manoeuvering warheads, stealth
> >> >>>> missiles... >> even
> >> >>>> >> one-off rogue terrorist missiles can be outfitted with something
> >> >>>> >> as
> >> >>>> >> simple as chaff dispensers. You can bet the nuclear powers have
> >> >>>> >> made
> >> >>>> >> sure their arsenals are not going to be rendered ineffective.
> >> >>>> >> The
> >> >>>> >> funny
> >> >>>> >> part is the countermeasures have cost pocket change compared to
> >> >>>> >> the
> >> >>>> >> massive expenditures on BMD.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > There is NO system you can devise, that some other system cannot
> >> >>>> > be
> >> >>>> > developed to overcome. If you worry about someone coming up with
> >> >>>> > a
> >> >>>> > counter to what you come up with, you would not even bother to
> >> >>>> > come
> >> >>>> > up
> >> >>>> > with the system in the first place. And, it is not whether
> >> >>>> > someone
> >> >>>> > will
> >> >>>> > try to figure out a way to counter what you have dreams up, but
> >> >>>> > how
> >> >>>> > effective will it be. As for any counter measure, do you for a
> >> >>>> > second
> >> >>>> > believe that the US military is not well aware of all the counter
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> measures
> >> >>>> > your oponent is dreaming up? But, the bottom line is, ANY
> >> >>>> adversary is
> >> >>>> > not about to launch a missile attack, "if" they cannot destroy the
> >> >>>> > expected response. From a nuclear exchange standpoint, no country
> >> >>>> > is
> >> >>>> > going to risk launching such a strike, unless they are certain
> >> >>>> > that
> >> >>>> > they
> >> >>>> > can completely defeat any counter measure that is developed.
> >> >>>> > Sending
> >> >>>> > ICBM's, and not knowing what percentage will actually do its job,
> >> >>>> is > not a
> >> >>>> > very smart tactics. A missile defense system does not HAVE TO
> >> >>>> knock > out
> >> >>>> > every incoming missile (though that would be nice), it just has to
> >> >>>> > knock
> >> >>>> > out enough of the incoming missiles, to retain an ability to
> >> >>>> respond to
> >> >>>> > such an attack. As for counter measures that one could employ
> >> >>>> > with
> >> >>>> > an
> >> >>>> > ICBM, that cannot be done in the boost phase.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Missile defence was never meant as a shield against another nuclear
> >> >>>> power
> >> >>>> like Russia, it was ostensibly a shield against a rogue state or
> >> >>>> 'terrorist'
> >> >>>> that might launch a one-off. The scenario is so fantastic it's akin
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> buying meteorite insurance. Missile defence is really just a way to
> >> >>>> funnel
> >> >>>> heaps of taxpayer funds into the pockets of defence contractors,
> >> >>>> sort
> >> >>>> of a
> >> >>>> corporate make-work welfare program.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If rogue states or terrorists are determined to nuke the US, how
> >> >>>> would
> >> >>>> you
> >> >>>> stop them from using a submarine to get right up close to an
> >> >>>> American
> >> >>>> port
> >> >>>> city and detonating a nuke? No missile even required.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If some group launches some missile and it has a nuclear bomb,
> >> >>> stopping it in mid air might not help much. Depending on the winds,
> >> >>> the fall of radioactive particles might affect even more people than
> >> >>> if it had hit a city.
> >> >>>
> >> >> understand the subject matter before making such claims
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I clearly remember that when the Chernobyl accident the food chain in
> >> > Sweden was affected. And there wasn't even a nuclear explosion. Some
> >> > studies even suggested that it marginally affected the IQ of Swedish
> >> > children.
> >> >
> >> Think about this. The only place that nuclear bombs were used were in
> >> the
> >> cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Are these two cities "wastelands"?
> >
> >
> > The tactical explosive weaponry of the Naga and Hiroshima bombs may have
> > caused
> > thousands of fatalities, but "fat boy" and its cousin were tiny nukes
> > compared
> > to the power those suckers out there today.
> >
> > In fact, I don't think that there is a conventional nuclear bomb as weak
> > as
> > what hit Japan so long ago used today.
>
> The bombs dropped on Japan were low efficiency, only a small percentage of
> the fissile material was converted to energy. That meant a lot of
> radioactive particulate was left over to shower down on the cities. Even
> so, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not written off. Modern nukes are designed
> to convert fissile material to energy much more efficiently; on the order of
> 97-99%, so there is much less toxic fallout. Using conventional explosives
> to disperse radiological material could easily render a city unliveable. A
> modern nuke could demolish a city but result in a relatively small amount of
> radioactivity.
>
>
>
Yeah, But former Marine and author Rod Serling was writing about that stuff
long ago, even before we were watching cartoons about "DUCK AND COVER!"
Lol!
I just want a big fucking bomb shelter in my back yard, so I can screw chicks
in it.
Or, that's what I thought back in the 1960's. ;)