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[ANN] ruby-community-announcements Mailing List

Gregory Brown

6/19/2008 7:49:00 PM

Hi folks,

As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to
Ruby Community Announcements:

http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-ann...

What is a Ruby community announcement? In my mind, it's notice of a
new release, a new book on Ruby, some new service available for
Rubyists, and other things of the like. It doesn't necessarily need
to be non-commercial, but it should be 'of community interest'. If
you move your blog or start a new one, posting a link would be a
community announcement. If you post a link to every blog post you
write, you're probably just being annoying.

I realized that ever since I stopped regularly reading RubyTalk, I've
been missing out on the many great announcements here. I guess I have
found myself still deeply interested in what everyone is 'doing' even
if I can't keep track of what everyone is saying now that the volume
is so high.

If you like this idea, please sign up. If you don't like this idea,
just don't sign up. I know this is a sensitive issue for some and if
this new group never takes off, I don't mind. I'm also not
suggesting that people use this as the *only* place for their
announcements, I'll still be sure to announce major releases and stuff
on RubyTalk, and I think a lot of others will want to, too.

Anyway, hope that some folks find this useful. If you do, spread the
word and start announcing your stuff on the list. I'm sorry for not
discussing it here first, but I doubt we'd ever come to a consensus ;)

-greg
7 Answers

Roger Pack

6/19/2008 9:09:00 PM

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Might be even more useful if it auto CC'ed ruby talk, or had a one stop
form for CC'ing various groups with the announcements.

Gregory Brown wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to
> Ruby Community Announcements:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-ann...
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-....

Gregory Brown

6/19/2008 10:05:00 PM

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On Jun 19, 4:09 pm, Roger Pack <rogerpack2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Might be even more useful if it auto CC'ed ruby talk, or had a one stop
> form for CC'ing various groups with the announcements.

Let's see how it looks after a few weeks and then I might bring that
discussion up here.

-greg

Murray Steele

6/19/2008 10:13:00 PM

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[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

I'm not poo-pooing the idea, but I've always found that a filter / mail rule
for "to:ruby-talk + subject:[ANN] or [ADV]" works pretty well (for some
version of a mail program that would accept such wonky filter syntax).

2008/6/19 Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com>:

> Might be even more useful if it auto CC'ed ruby talk, or had a one stop
> form for CC'ing various groups with the announcements.
>
> Gregory Brown wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to
> > Ruby Community Announcements:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-ann...
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-....
>
>

James Britt

6/19/2008 10:55:00 PM

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Gregory Brown wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to
> Ruby Community Announcements:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-ann...
>
> What is a Ruby community announcement? In my mind, it's notice of a
> new release, a new book on Ruby, some new service available for
> Rubyists, and other things of the like. It doesn't necessarily need
> to be non-commercial, but it should be 'of community interest'. If
> you move your blog or start a new one, posting a link would be a
> community announcement. If you post a link to every blog post you
> write, you're probably just being annoying.
>
> I realized that ever since I stopped regularly reading RubyTalk, I've
> been missing out on the many great announcements here. I guess I have
> found myself still deeply interested in what everyone is 'doing' even
> if I can't keep track of what everyone is saying now that the volume
> is so high.
>

chris2 created an RSS feed that only server up r-t items that contain
'ann' in the title.

I use that to catch things I miss in my scan of r-t topics.


> If you like this idea, please sign up. If you don't like this idea,
> just don't sign up. I know this is a sensitive issue for some and if
> this new group never takes off, I don't mind. I'm also not
> suggesting that people use this as the *only* place for their
> announcements, I'll still be sure to announce major releases and stuff
> on RubyTalk, and I think a lot of others will want to, too.
>


The issue for me is that there is no Ruby commons where everyone can
intermingle. Instead, we have a collection of specialized lists, blog
cliques, twitter flocks, #irc channels, and so on.

There is (or will be) no Ruby community, just assorted Ruby tribes.

I understand people have issues with the volume of posts and the
signal/noise ratio, but if more and more people, especially "old
timers", keep ignoring ruby-talk, there's no guidance for people just
joining in.



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Marcin Raczkowski

6/20/2008 10:37:00 AM

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For people that are tu stupid to create filter that moves everything
that contains [ANN] case-insensitive to separate folder

Jeremy McAnally

6/20/2008 1:06:00 PM

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His original message stated that this list is for people who _only_
care about the ANN/ADV stuff and don't care about the some of the
mindless chatter and bike shed arguments that tend to pop up on this
list.

I think if anything, he's the smart one. :P

--Jeremy

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Marcin Raczkowski <mailing.mr@gmail.com> wrote:
> For people that are tu stupid to create filter that moves everything that
> contains [ANN] case-insensitive to separate folder
>
>



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Marcin Raczkowski

6/21/2008 6:20:00 PM

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Jeremy McAnally wrote:
> His original message stated that this list is for people who _only_
> care about the ANN/ADV stuff and don't care about the some of the
> mindless chatter and bike shed arguments that tend to pop up on this
> list.
>
Creating filter that removes everything else instead of moving to
separate folder, is so so diffirent :P

Of course my previous post was irony, i just want to point that creating
more and more lists that i would have to keep track of, subscribe,
check, is basically stupid idea if you have much simpler alternatives