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Desktop multi-plataform ruby app

Israel Guerra

6/6/2008 7:51:00 PM

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Hail everyone!

This is my first post here. :)

I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option? I
heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.

I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me creating
the visual part.

Thanks and best regards.


--
Guerra
50 Answers

Charles Oliver Nutter

6/6/2008 8:15:00 PM

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Israel Guerra wrote:
> Hail everyone!
>
> This is my first post here. :)
>
> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option? I
> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
>
> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me creating
> the visual part.

JRuby + Swing + NetBeans Matisse + MonkeyBars

- Charlie

James Britt

6/6/2008 8:53:00 PM

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Israel Guerra wrote:
> Hail everyone!
>
> This is my first post here. :)
>
> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option? I
> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
>
> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me creating
> the visual part.
>
>

JRuby + Monkeybars + NetBeans GUI editor = Massive Win

http://www.monk...

Super-easy GUI app development, plus you can use rawr for snap-simple
packaging for multiple platforms.


There is nothing better.

--
James Britt

"Hackers will be expelled"
- The Breakfast Club (1985)

James Britt

6/6/2008 8:57:00 PM

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Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> Israel Guerra wrote:
>> Hail everyone!
>>
>> This is my first post here. :)
>>
>> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
>> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best
>> option? I
>> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
>>
>> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me
>> creating
>> the visual part.
>
> JRuby + Swing + NetBeans Matisse + MonkeyBars
>
> - Charlie
>


What he said. :)

If you have questions, jump on #monkeybars on irc; the Monkeybars squad
is usually about and very happy to answer questions.

There's also a mailing list, or just write me (or David or Logan) directly.


--
James Britt

Israel Guerra

6/6/2008 9:07:00 PM

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But guys, maybe im wrong about jruby, but its a ruby interpreter running in
the jvm isnt it?

So the final app needs a jvm (obviously), am i right?

Just want to make things clear :)
It sounds weird at the beginning... hehe

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:57 PM, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
>
>> Israel Guerra wrote:
>>
>>> Hail everyone!
>>>
>>> This is my first post here. :)
>>>
>>> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
>>> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option?
>>> I
>>> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
>>>
>>> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me
>>> creating
>>> the visual part.
>>>
>>
>> JRuby + Swing + NetBeans Matisse + MonkeyBars
>>
>> - Charlie
>>
>>
>
> What he said. :)
>
> If you have questions, jump on #monkeybars on irc; the Monkeybars squad is
> usually about and very happy to answer questions.
>
> There's also a mailing list, or just write me (or David or Logan) directly.
>
>
> --
> James Britt
>
>
>
>


--
Guerra

Charles Oliver Nutter

6/6/2008 9:39:00 PM

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Israel Guerra wrote:
> But guys, maybe im wrong about jruby, but its a ruby interpreter running in
> the jvm isnt it?
>
> So the final app needs a jvm (obviously), am i right?

Yeah, but that's a pretty minor requirement. There's free (as in beer
AND speech) JVMs easily installable on any plaform (including through
the usual packaging mechanisms).

- Charlie

Israel Guerra

6/6/2008 10:44:00 PM

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Indeed.
I was thinking about the efficiency.

The question would be: If i will use a JVM, is it worth using an interpreter
running on another interpreter just because i want to program in ruby?

It's probabily ok for small and non processing demanding apps.
:)

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <
charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

> Israel Guerra wrote:
>
>> But guys, maybe im wrong about jruby, but its a ruby interpreter running
>> in
>> the jvm isnt it?
>>
>> So the final app needs a jvm (obviously), am i right?
>>
>
> Yeah, but that's a pretty minor requirement. There's free (as in beer AND
> speech) JVMs easily installable on any plaform (including through the usual
> packaging mechanisms).
>
> - Charlie
>
>


--
Guerra

James Britt

6/6/2008 11:59:00 PM

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Israel Guerra wrote:
> Indeed.
> I was thinking about the efficiency.
>
> The question would be: If i will use a JVM, is it worth using an interpreter
> running on another interpreter just because i want to program in ruby?
>
> It's probabily ok for small and non processing demanding apps.
> :)

Actually, JRuby may be faster than C Ruby. Not sure if that's true for
all possible code, but so far I've not noticed any issues. And since I
can use any Java lib out there, I've saved myself all sort sorts of work
and headaches by avoiding incomplete or non-existent Ruby libs for
some tasks.

My guess is speed of the underlying mechanisms will not be your problem.



--
James Britt

"I can see them saying something like 'OMG Three Wizards Awesome'"
- billinboston, on reddit.com

Israel Guerra

6/7/2008 12:03:00 AM

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Oki doki!

Will study monkeybars a bit and try to work with it! :)

Thanks for tips!

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:58 PM, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Israel Guerra wrote:
>
>> Indeed.
>> I was thinking about the efficiency.
>>
>> The question would be: If i will use a JVM, is it worth using an
>> interpreter
>> running on another interpreter just because i want to program in ruby?
>>
>> It's probabily ok for small and non processing demanding apps.
>> :)
>>
>
> Actually, JRuby may be faster than C Ruby. Not sure if that's true for all
> possible code, but so far I've not noticed any issues. And since I can use
> any Java lib out there, I've saved myself all sort sorts of work and
> headaches by avoiding incomplete or non-existent Ruby libs for some tasks.
>
> My guess is speed of the underlying mechanisms will not be your problem.
>
>
>
>
> --
> James Britt
>
> "I can see them saying something like 'OMG Three Wizards Awesome'"
> - billinboston, on reddit.com
>
>


--
Guerra

Victor Reyes

6/7/2008 2:50:00 AM

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On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <
charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

> Israel Guerra wrote:
>
>> Hail everyone!
>>
>> This is my first post here. :)
>>
>> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
>> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option? I
>> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
>>
>> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me
>> creating
>> the visual part.
>>
>
> JRuby + Swing + NetBeans Matisse + MonkeyBars
>
> - Charlie
>
>
Can JRuby coexist with C-Ruby?
Does anyone have any performance numbers of Ruby vs JRuby?
Would any JRuby appl with GUI run on any *NIX server that supports Java?
Is there a drag and drop widgets creation GUI design under JRuby with Swing?
I think VxRuby or something to that effect is the only GUI environment that
offers drag/drop widget creation. Not sure though!
Currently I am running Ruby 1.8.7 and on some servers I am playing 1.9. What
is the equivalent version of JRuby to the latest level of Ruby?
How far behind is JRuby from Ruby (C-Ruby)?
If I am not mistaken, Monkeybars is only an MS/Windows appl, correct?

Thank you

Victor

Israel Guerra

6/7/2008 3:07:00 AM

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I hardly believe that an interpreter made in java running on a jvm will be
as fast as a C interpreter.

1 thing could cause that and would be a very bad work made on the CRuby and
i don't believe that's the case.

The truth is that the convenience of the JRuby is ok for most end uses.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Victor Reyes <victor.reyes@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <
> charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:
>
> > Israel Guerra wrote:
> >
> >> Hail everyone!
> >>
> >> This is my first post here. :)
> >>
> >> I want to develop a desktop app that runs in either linux or windows.
> >> I have many doubts about which GUI i should use. What's the best option?
> I
> >> heard about wxwidgets or tk, but have no idea of what i should use.
> >>
> >> I would prefer something that has a graphical app that can help me
> >> creating
> >> the visual part.
> >>
> >
> > JRuby + Swing + NetBeans Matisse + MonkeyBars
> >
> > - Charlie
> >
> >
> Can JRuby coexist with C-Ruby?
> Does anyone have any performance numbers of Ruby vs JRuby?
> Would any JRuby appl with GUI run on any *NIX server that supports Java?
> Is there a drag and drop widgets creation GUI design under JRuby with
> Swing?
> I think VxRuby or something to that effect is the only GUI environment that
> offers drag/drop widget creation. Not sure though!
> Currently I am running Ruby 1.8.7 and on some servers I am playing 1.9.
> What
> is the equivalent version of JRuby to the latest level of Ruby?
> How far behind is JRuby from Ruby (C-Ruby)?
> If I am not mistaken, Monkeybars is only an MS/Windows appl, correct?
>
> Thank you
>
> Victor
>



--
Guerra