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Phillip Gawlowski

5/16/2008 6:45:00 PM

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Are there any plans to release Programming Ruby 2nd Edition as a free
ebook, akin to the 1st Edition, once the 3rd Edition hits the stores (or
some time after that)?

That'd be a great boon to me, since I have misplaced my dead-tree
edition. :/

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Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.bl...

At the base of all these aristocratic races the predator is not
to be mistaken, the splendorous blond beast, avidly rampant for
plunder and victory.
~ -- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

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6 Answers

Dave Thomas

5/16/2008 6:55:00 PM

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On May 16, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

> Are there any plans to release Programming Ruby 2nd Edition as a free
> ebook, akin to the 1st Edition, once the 3rd Edition hits the stores
> (or
> some time after that)?

To be honest, I haven't thought that far ahead.

I'm still waiting for Ruby 1.9 to settle down enough to even consider
freezing the current version. (For example, the next beta will include
the 'symbol is no longer going to be an immediate object (probably))
change.) There have been hundreds of new methods added to the built in
libraries, changes and then more changes to numeric division, etc
etc... Once the dust clears, we'll think what our options are.


Dave

Phillip Gawlowski

5/16/2008 7:06:00 PM

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Dave Thomas wrote:

| To be honest, I haven't thought that far ahead.
|
| I'm still waiting for Ruby 1.9 to settle down enough to even consider
| freezing the current version. (For example, the next beta will include
| the 'symbol is no longer going to be an immediate object (probably))
| change.) There have been hundreds of new methods added to the built in
| libraries, changes and then more changes to numeric division, etc etc...
| Once the dust clears, we'll think what our options are.

Yeah, I read your little rant on the changes to Ruby 1.9 on your blog.

As soon as the 3rd edition becomes available it'll land in my shopping
cart/ Speaking of which: It'd be 'best' to buy the book via the
Pragmatic Bookshelf store to maximize your (as in: you, and the
Pragmatic Bookshelf's) cut of the sale?

Oh well, I'll just bide my time, and wait for the opportune moment to
nag you about it. ;)

Thanks for the answer, Dave.

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Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.bl...

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reasoning, and
inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and
impenetrable fog! -- Calvin
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Rick DeNatale

5/16/2008 10:29:00 PM

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On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Phillip Gawlowski
<cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> wrote:

> As soon as the 3rd edition becomes available it'll land in my shopping
> cart/ Speaking of which: It'd be 'best' to buy the book via the
> Pragmatic Bookshelf store to maximize your (as in: you, and the
> Pragmatic Bookshelf's) cut of the sale?

There are some advantages to you to buy directly from the Prags. For
one, your purchase gets registered, something which they can't do for
books you purchased elsewhere. That convinced me to buy any further
PragProg books directly.

Why not just go for the beta program now, you get the PDF version
right away, updated as available, and the paper copy when that's
available as well. While I prefer to have a physical book, I also
really like to have the pdf available on my laptop.

--
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denh...

Phillip Gawlowski

5/16/2008 10:39:00 PM

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Rick DeNatale wrote:

|
| There are some advantages to you to buy directly from the Prags. For
| one, your purchase gets registered, something which they can't do for
| books you purchased elsewhere. That convinced me to buy any further
| PragProg books directly.

That is a good point. Though I fail to see why I should register a book.
But that is probably a cultural difference between Germany and the US. :)

| Why not just go for the beta program now, you get the PDF version
| right away, updated as available, and the paper copy when that's
| available as well. While I prefer to have a physical book, I also
| really like to have the pdf available on my laptop.

Because the beta program isn't free, and I can't afford to shell out
that kind of money, as much as I'd like to. :(

I;m pretty much left to what I can find online and for free (and it is
tempting to grab a .torrent or so, but...). :/

- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.bl...

~ - You know you've been hacking too long when...
...in non-computer related situation you start thinking that whatever
you are doing, it could be done more easily in a shell script.
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Rick DeNatale

5/16/2008 10:49:00 PM

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On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Phillip Gawlowski
<cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Rick DeNatale wrote:
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> |
> | There are some advantages to you to buy directly from the Prags. For
> | one, your purchase gets registered, something which they can't do for
> | books you purchased elsewhere. That convinced me to buy any further
> | PragProg books directly.
>
> That is a good point. Though I fail to see why I should register a book.
> But that is probably a cultural difference between Germany and the US. :)

In order to get notified of updates and errata. And if you have the
pdf versions they get refreshed occasionally even after release.

> | Why not just go for the beta program now, you get the PDF version
> | right away, updated as available, and the paper copy when that's
> | available as well. While I prefer to have a physical book, I also
> | really like to have the pdf available on my laptop.
>
> Because the beta program isn't free, and I can't afford to shell out
> that kind of money, as much as I'd like to. :(

No more than buying it when it comes out, and perhaps less if the
price goes up (I doubt it would be coming down).

And since your paying in Euros rather than Dollars, it's even less. <G>

--
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denh...

Phillip Gawlowski

5/16/2008 11:55:00 PM

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Rick DeNatale wrote:

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| In order to get notified of updates and errata. And if you have the
| pdf versions they get refreshed occasionally even after release.

Yeah, but I can do that manually, too. Though, automation is nice, I agree.

| No more than buying it when it comes out, and perhaps less if the
| price goes up (I doubt it would be coming down).

Yeah, but I don't have the money *now* and I might have it when the
book's actually out.

| And since your paying in Euros rather than Dollars, it's even less. <G>

Still an issue of having the money or not. Though, this is absolutely
off topic by now. ;)

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Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.bl...

Let the data structure the program.
~ - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
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