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Problem installing buildr with rubygem on Windows XP

King Dan

5/14/2008 8:48:00 AM

Hallo,

I try to install the ruby building tool buildr with rubygems on Windows
XP.
When I type "gem install buildr" within the console I get following
error message:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Building native extensions. This could take a while...
ERROR: Error installing rjb:
ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.

C:/Programme/ruby/bin/ruby.exe extconf.rb install rjb
checking for jni.h... no
*** extconf.rb failed ***
Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of
necessary libraries and/or headers. Check the mkmf.log file for more
details. You may need configuration options.

Provided configuration options:
--with-opt-dir
--without-opt-dir
--with-opt-include
--without-opt-include=${opt-dir}/include
--with-opt-lib
--without-opt-lib=${opt-dir}/lib
--with-make-prog
--srcdir=.
--curdir
--ruby=C:/Programme/ruby/bin/ruby

Gem files will remain installed in
C:/Programme/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rjb-
1.1.3 for inspection.
Results logged to
C:/Programme/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rjb-1.1.3/ext/gem_mak
e.out
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I know that buildr needs native C extensions, but according to the
official buildr homepage
"http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/getting_started.html#win... you
should be asked on which platform buildr should be installed and on
mswin32 buildr should come with precompiled dlls. But I wasn't asked!
Even when I type "gem install buildr --platform mswin32" the same error
occures.

Is there anybody with experience in installing buildr on Windows?

Thank you for your help.
maxxo
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9 Answers

Phillip Gawlowski

5/14/2008 10:24:00 AM

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King Dan wrote:
| Hallo,
|
| I know that buildr needs native C extensions, but according to the
| official buildr homepage
| "http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/getting_started.html#win... you
| should be asked on which platform buildr should be installed and on
| mswin32 buildr should come with precompiled dlls. But I wasn't asked!

Newer RubyGems versions don't ask for the platform.

See here for possible workarounds:
<http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-talk-google/browse_thread/thread/bfdf1fd27fc678a0/47defb992f...

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Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
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jwsheffield@satx.rr.com

3/4/2013 5:48:00 AM

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The Righteousness of Christ
Robert D. Brinsmead

There are two elements blended together in God's redemptive act in
Christ. These elements are righteousness and blood. Paul not only
ascribes salvation to the blood of Christ but also to the
righteousness of Christ. In Romans 3:22 he tells us that righteousness
is "unto all and upon all them that believe. " " . . . David also
describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth
righteousness without works . . ." (Rom. 4:6). In Romans 5:18-19 Paul
says that this is "the righteousness of One" or "the obedience of
One." The apostle Peter calls it "the righteousness of . . . Jesus
Christ" (2 Peter 1:1).

The gospel is about Jesus Christ (Rom 1:3) — His righteousness and
blood. If Christ is our Sun, then half of this Sun's luster is dimmed
when we fail to rivet our attention on the grand theme of the
righteousness of Jesus.

The Covenant and Christ's Righteousness

Like many of the great words in the Bible, righteousness is a
covenantal word. God and man are related by a covenantal union. When
one acts as a true covenant partner, he is said to be righteous.

God is said to be righteous because all His acts are true to His
covenant oath. Whether He punishes or forgives, He is always true to
His covenant. As a covenant partner, He is absolutely dependable.

As a covenant partner, man is required to image God. Righteousness is
the most fundamental covenant demand. The Ten Commandments are the
stipulations which rest upon the human partner (Ex. 34:27-28; Deut.
4:13). When man is true to his covenant obligations, he is said to be
righteous. "And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all
these commandments before the Lord our God, as He hath commanded
us" (Deut. 6:25).

From the human standpoint righteousness is obedience to the law of God
(the covenant stipulations), just as sin is transgression of the law
(1 John 3:4). Says Calvin:

The law of God contains perfect righteousness . . . We therefore
willingly confess that perfect obedience to the law is righteousness,
and that the keeping of each commandment is a part of righteousness;
provided that in the remaining parts the whole sum of righteousness is
contained. —John Calvin, Institutes, Bk. 3, chap. 17, sec. 7.

. . . righteousness consists in the observance of the law. —Ibid.,
Bk. 2, chap. 17, sec. 5.

In the New Testament, righteousness or perfect obedience to the law
remains the valid demand of God. When the young ruler asked Jesus,
"What good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Jesus
replied, "Keep the commandments" — and He quoted the very words
(stipulations) of the covenant (Matt. 19:16-19).

Paul does not launch into his message of God's grace in his epistle to
the Romans by declaring that God has relented on His demand for
righteousness. Indeed, the apostle arraigns both Jew and Gentile
before the judgment bar of God and shows that God is absolutely
uncompromising in His demand for a righteous life:

But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth
against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man,
that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou
shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of His
goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the
goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and
impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of
wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; who will render
to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient
continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality,
eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the
truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation
and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first,
and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man
that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for
there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned
without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law
are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For
when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things
contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto
themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean
while accusing or else excusing one another;) in the day when God
shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel
(Rom. 2:2-16).

These words of Paul remind us of what is said in the fifteenth Psalm:

Lord, who shall abide in Thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in Thy
holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and
speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his
tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach
against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but
he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own
hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury,
nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things
shall never be moved.

We may summarize the point by saying that God requires of man a holy
life. The justice of God's judgment seat requires exact and perfect
obedience to the divine law. Man cannot be saved unless that law be
fulfilled — every jot and tittle of it.

Says Calvin, "The Lord promises nothing except to perfect keepers of
His law," and then, to underline the human predicament, he adds, "and
no one of that kind is to be found." —Calvin, op. cit., Bk. 3, chap.
17, sec. 1. This is where God stepped in by providing for us a Surety
(Heb. 7:22) in Jesus Christ. His righteousness consists in His perfect
obedience to His Father's law in our room and on our behalf. Not only
by His blood (which atones for our offenses) but by His righteousness
He reconciles us to God and presents us in the sight of divine justice
as if we had kept the law.

The Old Testament and Christ's Righteousness

Through Isaiah, God speaks to His Messiah, saying:

I the Lord have called Thee in righteousness, and will hold Thine
hand, and will keep Thee, and give Thee for a covenant of the people,
for a light of the Gentiles . . . " (Isa. 42:6; see also Isa. 49:8).

What does this scripture mean when it says that Christ is given "for a
covenant of the people?" God had entered into covenant with His
people, but they failed Him. They broke the stipulations. Although God
kept renewing His covenant, the partnership always broke down because
"it was weak through the flesh." God looked for a faithful covenant
partner and found Him in Jesus Christ. God accepts Him on behalf of
His people. Christ's righteousness is accepted in the place of their
failure. In this faithful Servant the people can be treated as those
who have fulfilled all their covenant stipulations.

The Old Testament bears pointed testimony to the righteousness of
Christ. In Isaiah 40 to 66 He is presented to us as a Servant of
Yahweh. He is so closely identified with His people that He is Israel
personified. He suffers for Israel's sins as if they were His own
(Isa. 53), and Israel is rewarded for His righteous life as if it were
her own (Isa. 49:8; 45:24-25).

Says the prophet, ". . . He had done no violence, neither was any
deceit in His mouth" (Isa. 53:9; cf. Rom. 3:10-18). God calls Him "My
righteous Servant" (Isa. 53:11).

Behold My Servant, whom I uphold; Mine Elect, in whom My soul
delighteth; I have put My Spirit upon Him: He shall bring forth
judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause His
voice to be heard in the street. A bruised reed shall He not break,
and the smoking flax shall He not quench: He shall bring forth
judgment unto truth. He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till He
have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for His law
(Isa. 42:1-4).

This righteous Servant is pleasing to God in all things. He loves
righteousness and hates iniquity. Therefore He receives God's Spirit
without measure (Heb. 1:9). In Him is blended the meekness of perfect
lowliness and humility and the strength of indomitable courage and
fortitude.

His righteousness is further described in the words of the prophet:

The Lord God hath given Me the tongue of the learned, that I
should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: He
wakeneth morning by morning, He wakeneth Mine ear to hear as the
learned.

The Lord God hath opened Mine ear, and I was not rebellious,
neither turned away back. I gave My back to the smiters, and My cheeks
to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not My face from shame and
spitting.

For the Lord God will help Me; therefore shall I not be
confounded: therefore have I set My face like a flint; and I know that
I shall not be ashamed (Isa. 50:4-7).

Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently, He shall be exalted and
extolled, and be very high (Isa. 52:13).

In Isaiah 11 Christ is depicted as the righteous Branch "out of the
stem of Jesse."

. . . and the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the spirit
of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the
spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; and shall make Him of
quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and He shall not judge
after the sight of His eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of His
ears: but with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with
equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with
the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay
the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of His loins, and
faithfulness the girdle of His reins (Isa. 11:2-5).

Here are "the seven spirits of God" — the fullness and perfection of
the Godhead which were manifested in Jesus Christ (see Col. 2:9).

Jeremiah also prophesies of Christ as "a righteous Branch." In context
the Lord complains about the shepherds of Israel who scatter and
destroy the flock. But the Lord says that He will raise up a faithful
Shepherd and by Him save His people:

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto
David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and
shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In His days Judah
shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is His name
whereby He shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS (Jer. 23:
5-6).

A parallel passage in Jeremiah 33:16 says:

In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell
safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord
our righteousness.

Israel is saved because she takes His name, "The Lord our
righteousness." It is because of God's covenant faithfulness in giving
Christ to be Israel's righteousness that Isaiah declares:

Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness and
strength: even to Him shall men come; and all that are incensed
against Him shall be ashamed. In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel
be justified, and shall glory (Isa. 45:24-25).

To summarize: the servant life of Christ constitutes His
righteousness. Here was a life without guile, without violence,
without rebelliousness; but it was a life full of God's Spirit, a life
of humility, patient trust in God, zeal for God's glory, perfect
submission to God's will, and unflinching courage to finish the work
which God gave Him to do.

The New Testament and Christ's Righteousness

The apostles present Jesus as the fulfillment of the Isaianic servant
who goes about "doing good." Jesus comes to be baptized in order "to
fulfil all righteousness" (Matt. 3:15). At His baptism a voice from
heaven declares, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased" (Matt. 3:17; this obviously refers us back to Isa. 42:1).

As Israel was called out of Egypt and tested in the wilderness, so
Christ also is called out of Egypt (Matt. 2:15) and tested in the
wilderness (Matt. 4:1-11). Whereas Israel murmured against God and
broke her covenant vow, Christ passes over the same ground as God's
new Israel. He is the righteous Servant who keeps covenant with God.

When Christ dies on the cross, Luke records that the centurion cries,
"Certainly this was a righteous Man" (Luke 23:47). Even the dying
thief is constrained to declare," . . . this man hath done nothing
amiss" (Luke 23:4i). Before His death the demons were often forced to
confess, "I know Thee who Thou art; the Holy One of God" (Luke 4:34).

John presents Jesus as the One whose meat it is to do the Father's
will. Christ declares, "I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the
Father which hath sent Me" (John 5:30). Even in the face of going into
that place of outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of
teeth (tasting death for every man), He still submits: ". . . not My
will, but Thine be done" (Luke 22:42). As God's faithful Servant, He
continues until He can say, "I have glorified Thee on the earth: I
have finished the work which Thou gavest Me to do" (John 17:4).

The writer to the Hebrews says:

For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the
feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we
are, yet without sin . . . Who in the days of His flesh, when He had
offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto
Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He
feared; though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things
which He suffered; and being made perfect, He became the Author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him . . . (Heb. 4:15;
5:7-9).

One of the most glorious New Testament testimonies to the
righteousness of Christ is found in Philippians 2:5-9:

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who,
being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a
servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in
fashion as a man, he humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death,
even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted
Him, and given Him a name which is above every name. . . .

The expression "obedient unto death" literally reads "obedient until
death." The whole course of Christ's condescension and humble
obedience is here portrayed. It takes in the total span of Christ's
life from the manger to the cross. He went lower and lower in the path
of humiliation until there was no lower place for Him to go.

The life of this obedient, suffering Servant is what Paul calls "the
righteousness of One" and "the obedience of One" (Rom. 5:18-19).
Because Romans 5:18 is sometimes translated "one act of
righteousness," some contend that Paul is referring only to Christ's
act of dying on the cross. But we should remember that God's
redemptive act in Christ was more than a few hours in duration. It
took thirty-three years. Cranfield is no doubt right when he compares
this passage with Philippians 2:8 and says, "The term covers His whole
life, not just His passion and death." —The International Critical
Commentary, Romans (Edinburgh: T & T Clark), p.289. Obedience is a
living thing, a quality of life. Christ's life of obedience to the
perfect will of God is "the righteousness of Christ." As the second or
last Adam and as the new Israel or King of Israel, His righteousness
consisted in fulfilling the stipulations of the covenant in the most
trying circumstances.

The Saving Properties of Christ's Righteousness

". . . a Man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert
from the tempest . . . " (Isa. 32:2). This is because in Jesus Christ
the sinner may find what the law of God demands — a life of perfect
righteousness. But it is proper to inquire, "Why does the
righteousness of Jesus Christ have saving properties?" There are two
reasons:

1. It was a vicarious righteousness. Christ's life of obedience was
not lived for Himself. As Lawgiver, He owed no obedience to the law.
Obedience is the obligation of the creature, not the Creator. But
Christ voluntarily assumed our obligation so that in our stead He
could do for us that which we could not do for ourselves.

. . . but when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth
His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were
under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons (Gal.
4:4-5).

As Bunyan so beautifully put it, for thirty-three years Christ wove a
garment of perfect righteousness to be given away. He needed no such
righteousness for Himself, for from eternity He was the righteous One.

2. Christ's righteousness was not only vicarious (lived for us), but
it was of infinite value. No mere creature sinlessness could suffice
to save a multitude of sinners. If there are righteous men like Noah,
Job and Daniel in the land, their righteousness will not suffice to
save anyone else (see Ezek. 14:20).

As we have seen, the righteousness of Christ was lived out in the
flesh-and-blood reality of His earthly life. But He was the God-man.
The Person who rendered this obedience for us was a divine and
infinite Person. His Person gave value to His work. He was filled with
"all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9). In Philippians
2:5-8 the apostle clearly shows us that His was an infinite humility.
His obedience was so glorious that it merited all honor and eternal
blessedness (see Phil. 2:9-10; Ps. 24).

When God gave us Jesus to be our righteousness, He gave us an infinite
treasure. The life which we have in God's Son is much greater than the
sinless life which was forfeited by Adam's transgression. The
righteousness of Jesus has infinite value with God.
In order that Christ could bequeath this life of infinite
righteousness to us (a righteousness that would merit us all
blessedness and eternal glory), He had to lay it down. Perhaps God's
act of clothing the nakedness of Adam and Eve was an illustration of
this. Before these sinners could be covered, a beast had to yield its
life so that they could wear its skin. Death made the skins available,
but it was the life of the animal which produced the coat.

Christ's life was so great that it was able to swallow up death and
triumph over it. "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to
God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be
saved by His life" (Rom. 5:10). Our righteousness is the life of
Christ, and this righteousness is where we need it most-at the right
hand of God.

The Communication of Christ's Righteousness

It was God's grace which provided this righteousness for us. Hence it
is called "the righteousness of God" (Rom. 1:17; 3:21; 10:3; Phil.
3:9). Christ lived it. So it is called "the righteousness of . . .
Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 1:1). The gospel declares its saving
properties. So it is what we might appropriately call "gospel
righteousness." In the preaching of the gospel the Holy Spirit is
present to create faith in this righteousness. Hence it is called "the
righteousness of faith" (Rom. 1: 17; 3:22; 4:11; 9:30; Phil. 3:9).

The righteousness of faith is not a quality seen by us or felt by us.
It is not to be confused with the Spirit's work of regeneration and
sanctification in our hearts. The righteousness which is of faith is
nothing but the righteous deeds of incarnate God. It is called "the
righteousness of faith" because faith embraces it, saying, "Mine are
Christ's living, doing, and speaking, His suffering and dying; mine as
much as if I had lived, done, spoken, and suffered, and died as He
did. . . . Therefore, everything that Christ has is ours, graciously
bestowed on us unworthy men out of God's sheer mercy, although we have
rather deserved wrath and condemnation, and hell also. . . . This is
an infinite righteousness and one that swallows up all sins in a
moment, for it is impossible that sin should exist in Christ. On the
contrary, he who trusts in Christ exists in Christ; he is one with
Christ, having the same righteousness as He." — Martin Luther,
Luther's Works, Vol.31, pp.349-358.

This righteousness of Christ which justifies and saves the believing
sinner unto life eternal always remains with and in the Person of
Christ.

. . . the righteousness is still "in Him"; not "in us," even then
when we are made partakers of the benefit of it, even as the wing and
feathers still abide in the hen when the chickens are covered, kept,
and warmed thereby. —John Bunyan, Justification by an Imputed
Righteousness (Swengel, Penn.: Reiner Publications).

Again Bunyan says:

The righteousness by which we stand just before God from the curse
was performed by the person of Christ. . . . This righteousness is
inherent only in Him. —Ibid.

Indeed this is one of the greatest mysteries in the world—namely,
that a righteousness that resides with a person in heaven should
justify me, a sinner, on earth. —Ibid.

Once we grasp that the saving righteousness of Jesus consists in the
works and deeds of Jesus which were performed for us 2,000 years ago,
it becomes plain why Paul teaches that the righteousness which is of
faith is imputed (see Rom. 4). Says Buchanan:

This righteousness, — being the merit of a work, and not a mere
quality of character, — may become ours by being imputed to us, but
cannot be communicated by being infused; and must ever continue to
belong primarily and, in one important respect, exclusively to Him by
Whom alone that work was accomplished . . . The merit of one may be
reckoned, or put down to the account of another; but how can the merit
of any work be infused, as a personal property, as holiness may
unquestionably be? —James Buchanan, The Doctrine of Justification, pp.
334-335.

There is, through the work of the Holy Spirit, an impartation of
"essential righteousness" — that is, the attributes of God's
character. The believer thereby becomes progressively more and more
like Christ in character. Yet this inwrought holiness must not be
confused with "the righteousness of faith." Paul can exhort believers
to perfect holiness in the fear of God (2 Cor. 7:1), but nowhere does
he exhort them to perfect the righteousness which is theirs by faith.
This righteousness is already infinitely perfect. It is a garment
already woven and ready to be worn by all who will submit to it.

The Benefits of Christ's Righteousness

Since Christ lived for His people a life of positive righteousness as
well as died to atone for their sins, this means that God's
justification of the believer includes more than pardon for past
offenses. While the blood of Christ washes away the stain of all
guilt, the righteousness of Christ clothes the believer with the
righteousness which the law demands. Justification is not clearing
away the past so that the believer can go on and provide his own life
for acceptance with God. The holy life of the believer never becomes
the central preoccupation where Christ's righteousness is given its
proper place. The believer sees that just as his old life has been
buried with Christ, so his real life is now in Christ at God's right
hand (Col. 3:1 4). This is the abundant life (John 10:10), the
infinite treasure of the Christian. Where his treasure is, there is
his heart also.

The holy life which the believer lives on earth is but the first
fruits and the down payment of his inheritance (Rom. 8:23; Eph.
1:13-14). This is not that abundant life of which the Christian can
lawfully boast. In his earthly life, even in its best state, he will
never find fulfillment and satisfaction but will rather confess with
Paul, "O wretched man that I am!" (Rom. 7:24). The Christian's real
life, therefore, is outside of himself, and his consolation is always
what Another is on his behalf in the presence of God.

Yet this righteousness which is by faith alone determines the nature
of the holy life of the believer in the here and now. We have seen
that Christ's righteousness consists in His perfect obedience to the
commandments of God (covenant stipulations) on behalf of those who
believe on Him. The Son of God was not sent to put the law aside. He
did not die so that its holy requirement could be cast aside as
nothing. The righteousness of Christ was the highest honor that could
be paid to the divine law. In the life of Jesus Christ the law
received much more honor than if Adam and all his posterity had kept
it. The law (the covenant stipulations) had to be fulfilled, every jot
and tittle of it; otherwise there would be no hope of justification
for any sinner.

When the believing sinner sees that Christ put His own life on the
line to honor and uphold God's law, he will not think that it is a
light matter to sin and trample on God's holy commandments. While the
law points him to Christ as His only righteousness to meet its claims,
Christ's righteousness points him back to the law as the expression of
Christian duty. In the light of the gospel, God's commandments are not
grievous (1 John 5:3).

The good news that Christ kept the law for us is not an encouragement
to antinomianism. Rightly understood, it is the end of antinomianism.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the
flesh, God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and
for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law
might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the
Spirit (Rom. 8:3-4).

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Barry OGrady

3/4/2013 6:10:00 AM

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:48:07 -0800 (PST), "jwsheffield@satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffield@satx.rr.com> wrote:

>The Righteousness of Christ
>Robert D. Brinsmead
>
>There are two elements blended together in God's redemptive act in
>Christ. These elements are righteousness and blood. Paul not only
>ascribes salvation to the blood of Christ but also to the
>righteousness of Christ.

You know what would have been so much better than salvation?
If God had not caused us to need salvation.

jwsheffield@satx.rr.com

3/4/2013 5:33:00 PM

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On Mar 4, 12:10 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:48:07 -0800 (PST), "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
>
> <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> >The Righteousness of Christ
> >Robert D. Brinsmead
>
> >There are two elements blended together in God's redemptive act in
> >Christ. These elements are righteousness and blood. Paul not only
> >ascribes salvation to the blood of Christ but also to the
> >righteousness of Christ.
>
> You know what would have been so much better than salvation?
> If God had not caused us to need salvation.

He warned us.



Genesis 3:3
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden,
God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it,
lest ye die.

Pete

3/4/2013 8:13:00 PM

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:48:07 -0800 (PST), jwsheffield@satx.rr.com wrote:

> The Righteousness of Christ
> Robert D. Brinsmead
>
> There are two elements blended together in God's redemptive act in
> Christ. These elements are righteousness and blood. Paul not only
> ascribes salvation to the blood of Christ but also to the
> righteousness of Christ. In Romans 3:22 he tells us that righteousness
> is "unto all and upon all them that believe. " " . . . David also
> describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth
> righteousness without works . . ." (Rom. 4:6). In Romans 5:18-19 Paul
> says that this is "the righteousness of One" or "the obedience of
> One." The apostle Peter calls it "the righteousness of . . . Jesus
> Christ" (2 Peter 1:1).
>
> The gospel is about Jesus Christ (Rom 1:3) !X His righteousness and
> blood. If Christ is our Sun, then half of this Sun's luster is dimmed
> when we fail to rivet our attention on the grand theme of the
> righteousness of Jesus.
>
> The Covenant and Christ's Righteousness
>
> Like many of the great words in the Bible, righteousness is a
> covenantal word. God and man are related by a covenantal union. When
> one acts as a true covenant partner, he is said to be righteous.
>
> God is said to be righteous because all His acts are true to His
> covenant oath. Whether He punishes or forgives, He is always true to
> His covenant. As a covenant partner, He is absolutely dependable.
>
> As a covenant partner, man is required to image God. Righteousness is
> the most fundamental covenant demand. The Ten Commandments are the
> stipulations which rest upon the human partner (Ex. 34:27-28; Deut.
> 4:13). When man is true to his covenant obligations, he is said to be
> righteous. "And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all
> these commandments before the Lord our God, as He hath commanded
> us" (Deut. 6:25).
>
> From the human standpoint righteousness is obedience to the law of God
> (the covenant stipulations), just as sin is transgression of the law
> (1 John 3:4). Says Calvin:
>
> The law of God contains perfect righteousness . . . We therefore
> willingly confess that perfect obedience to the law is righteousness,
> and that the keeping of each commandment is a part of righteousness;
> provided that in the remaining parts the whole sum of righteousness is
> contained. !XJohn Calvin, Institutes, Bk. 3, chap. 17, sec. 7.
>
> . . . righteousness consists in the observance of the law. !XIbid.,
> Bk. 2, chap. 17, sec. 5.
>

Rom 6:14 Let not sin have power over you. For ye are not under the law,
but under grace.

The covenant that this man speaks of is the Covenant of the Law. Jesus
fuflilled that.

What the Law could NOT DO...
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, inasmuch as it was weak because of
the flesh -- that performed God, and sent his son in the similitude of
sinful flesh, and by sin damned sin in the flesh;

This be the truth, not the words of man above. Continued....

that the righteousness required of the law might be fulfilled in us, which
walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. For they that are carnal,
are carnally minded; But they that are spiritual are spiritually minded. To
be carnally minded is death; But to be spiritually minded is life, and
peace: because that the fleshly mind is enmity against God: For it is not
obedient to the law of God, neither can be. So then, they that are given to
the flesh, cannot please God. But ye are not given to the flesh; But to the
spirit: If so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. If there be any man
that hath not the spirit of Christ, the same is none of his.
(Rom 8:4-9 MSTC)



> In the New Testament, righteousness or perfect obedience to the law
> remains the valid demand of God. When the young ruler asked Jesus,
> "What good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Jesus
> replied, "Keep the commandments" !X and He quoted the very words
> (stipulations) of the covenant (Matt. 19:16-19).
>

Yes, Jesus who lived under the Covenant of Law was bound by it. Which is
why the distinction needs to be made, was it before the Cross of after it.
Our righteousness comes not from the works of the Law, do this not that, it
comes

Rom 4:6 Even as David describeth the blessedfulness of the man, unto whom
God ascribeth righteousness without deeds,


> Paul does not launch into his message of God's grace in his epistle to
> the Romans by declaring that God has relented on His demand for
> righteousness. Indeed, the apostle arraigns both Jew and Gentile
> before the judgment bar of God and shows that God is absolutely
> uncompromising in His demand for a righteous life:
>

Of course he didn't.

because that by the deeds of the law, shall no flesh be justified in the
sight of God. For by the law cometh the knowledge of sin. Now, verily, is
the righteousness that cometh of God declared without the fulfilling of the
law: having witness yet of the law, and of the prophets. The righteousness,
no doubt, which is good before God cometh by the faith of Jesus Christ:
unto all, and upon all them that believe. (Rom 3:20-22 MSTC)

You see here the difference between self righteousness, and the
Righteousness of God Himself through Faith. You see it is a package deal,
all in one.

2Co 5:21 for he hath made him to be sin for us, which knew no sin, that we
by his means should be that righteousness which before God is allowed.


> But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth
> against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man,
> that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou
> shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of His
> goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the
> goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and
> impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of
> wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; who will render
> to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient
> continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality,
> eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the
> truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation
> and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first,
> and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man
> that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for
> there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned
> without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
> in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law
> are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For
> when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things
> contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto
> themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
> their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean
> while accusing or else excusing one another;) in the day when God
> shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel
> (Rom. 2:2-16).
>

Even here we see that the Gentiles who were not under the Law never
received rightousness from the Law nor following that Law of Moses.

The author of this article is twisting this to back up his statements which
go against scripture, that being that we are THE righteousness of God, by
faith, through Christ Jesus our Lord.

> These words of Paul remind us of what is said in the fifteenth Psalm:
>
> Lord, who shall abide in Thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in Thy
> holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and
> speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his
> tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach
> against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but
> he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own
> hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury,
> nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things
> shall never be moved.
>

David, who also said, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord doth not impute
iniquity. Plus the verses I quoted from David above. David, who saw but
could not partake of what we have. David, who saw the death for the Messiah
upon the tree for the sin of all mankind. There are no Two ways, or two
paths, there is but one and it has always been by faith.

> We may summarize the point by saying that God requires of man a holy
> life. The justice of God's judgment seat requires exact and perfect
> obedience to the divine law. Man cannot be saved unless that law be
> fulfilled !X every jot and tittle of it.
>

Jesus, who saved us fulfilled every jot and tittle of it, and is our
propitiation for sin. To summarize we are freed from the Law and if we walk
in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh, thus we will not
walk in sin, but in a constant state of forgiveness.

To be saved, we must be born again, Jesus also said, I am the way, I am the
truth, I am Life, NO MAN comes to the Father but through Me. Period, end of
story. Without Jesus Christ we can do nothing, without being born again we
cannot be part of the Family of God by Faith.

I am taking the liberty of snipping the rest as this is all answered above.

--
Peter
A living Stone
A Disciple of The Lord Jesus Christ
Joh 13:34-35 KJV

duke

3/5/2013 8:10:00 PM

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 15:03:31 -0800, Pete <mc@ham.mer> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:42:57 -0600, duke wrote:
>
>> Did they just not understand? So the Levis made up a list
>> of new man-made laws to follow which qualify as following the 10 commandments.
>
>No, They went into the business of making some very fine pants.

Aw, further admission that you don't know the bible. But that's always been
evident.

The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************

duke

3/5/2013 8:22:00 PM

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On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Pete <mc@ham.mer> wrote:

>Rom 6:14 Let not sin have power over you. For ye are not under the law,
>but under grace.

Romans 6:14 (New International Version)
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law,
but under grace.

So, pete, is grace your master now? You are under grace, not by definition, but
by your choice, your actions.

>What the Law could NOT DO...
>Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, inasmuch as it was weak because of
>the flesh -- that performed God, and sent his son in the similitude of
>sinful flesh, and by sin damned sin in the flesh;

Romans 8:3-4 (New International Version)
3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[a]
God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin
offering.[b] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous
requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to
the flesh but according to the Spirit.

So, pete, do you now live according to the spirit? You see, it's not something
you're awarded, it's something you elect to do. Do you?

>
>This be the truth, not the words of man above. Continued....
>
>that the righteousness required of the law might be fulfilled in us, which
>walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. For they that are carnal,
>are carnally minded; But they that are spiritual are spiritually minded. To
>be carnally minded is death; But to be spiritually minded is life, and
>peace: because that the fleshly mind is enmity against God: For it is not
>obedient to the law of God, neither can be. So then, they that are given to
>the flesh, cannot please God. But ye are not given to the flesh; But to the
>spirit: If so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. If there be any man
>that hath not the spirit of Christ, the same is none of his.
>(Rom 8:4-9 MSTC)
>
>
>
>> In the New Testament, righteousness or perfect obedience to the law
>> remains the valid demand of God. When the young ruler asked Jesus,
>> "What good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Jesus
>> replied, "Keep the commandments" ?X and He quoted the very words
>> (stipulations) of the covenant (Matt. 19:16-19).
>>
>
>Yes, Jesus who lived under the Covenant of Law was bound by it. Which is
>why the distinction needs to be made, was it before the Cross of after it.
>Our righteousness comes not from the works of the Law, do this not that, it
>comes
>
>Rom 4:6 Even as David describeth the blessedfulness of the man, unto whom
>God ascribeth righteousness without deeds,
>
>
>> Paul does not launch into his message of God's grace in his epistle to
>> the Romans by declaring that God has relented on His demand for
>> righteousness. Indeed, the apostle arraigns both Jew and Gentile
>> before the judgment bar of God and shows that God is absolutely
>> uncompromising in His demand for a righteous life:
>>
>
>Of course he didn't.
>
>because that by the deeds of the law, shall no flesh be justified in the
>sight of God. For by the law cometh the knowledge of sin. Now, verily, is
>the righteousness that cometh of God declared without the fulfilling of the
>law: having witness yet of the law, and of the prophets. The righteousness,
>no doubt, which is good before God cometh by the faith of Jesus Christ:
>unto all, and upon all them that believe. (Rom 3:20-22 MSTC)
>
>You see here the difference between self righteousness, and the
>Righteousness of God Himself through Faith. You see it is a package deal,
>all in one.
>
>2Co 5:21 for he hath made him to be sin for us, which knew no sin, that we
>by his means should be that righteousness which before God is allowed.
>
>
>> But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth
>> against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man,
>> that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou
>> shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of His
>> goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the
>> goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and
>> impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of
>> wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; who will render
>> to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient
>> continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality,
>> eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the
>> truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation
>> and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first,
>> and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man
>> that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for
>> there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned
>> without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
>> in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law
>> are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For
>> when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things
>> contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto
>> themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
>> their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean
>> while accusing or else excusing one another;) in the day when God
>> shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel
>> (Rom. 2:2-16).
>>
>
>Even here we see that the Gentiles who were not under the Law never
>received rightousness from the Law nor following that Law of Moses.
>
>The author of this article is twisting this to back up his statements which
>go against scripture, that being that we are THE righteousness of God, by
>faith, through Christ Jesus our Lord.
>
>> These words of Paul remind us of what is said in the fifteenth Psalm:
>>
>> Lord, who shall abide in Thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in Thy
>> holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and
>> speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his
>> tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach
>> against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but
>> he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own
>> hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury,
>> nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things
>> shall never be moved.
>>
>
>David, who also said, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord doth not impute
>iniquity. Plus the verses I quoted from David above. David, who saw but
>could not partake of what we have. David, who saw the death for the Messiah
>upon the tree for the sin of all mankind. There are no Two ways, or two
>paths, there is but one and it has always been by faith.
>
>> We may summarize the point by saying that God requires of man a holy
>> life. The justice of God's judgment seat requires exact and perfect
>> obedience to the divine law. Man cannot be saved unless that law be
>> fulfilled ?X every jot and tittle of it.
>>
>
>Jesus, who saved us fulfilled every jot and tittle of it, and is our
>propitiation for sin. To summarize we are freed from the Law and if we walk
>in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh, thus we will not
>walk in sin, but in a constant state of forgiveness.
>
>To be saved, we must be born again, Jesus also said, I am the way, I am the
>truth, I am Life, NO MAN comes to the Father but through Me. Period, end of
>story. Without Jesus Christ we can do nothing, without being born again we
>cannot be part of the Family of God by Faith.
>
>I am taking the liberty of snipping the rest as this is all answered above.

The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************

Pete

3/9/2013 10:57:00 PM

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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:22:01 -0600, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Pete <mc@ham.mer> wrote:
>
>>Rom 6:14 Let not sin have power over you. For ye are not under the law,
>>but under grace.
>
> Romans 6:14 (New International Version)
> 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law,
> but under grace.
>
> So, pete, is grace your master now? You are under grace, not by definition, but
> by your choice, your actions.
>

No.

>>What the Law could NOT DO...
>>Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, inasmuch as it was weak because of
>>the flesh -- that performed God, and sent his son in the similitude of
>>sinful flesh, and by sin damned sin in the flesh;
>
> Romans 8:3-4 (New International Version)
> 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[a]
> God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin
> offering.[b] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous
> requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to
> the flesh but according to the Spirit.
>
> So, pete, do you now live according to the spirit? You see, it's not something
> you're awarded, it's something you elect to do. Do you?
>

I have for a long time and said so. The Holy Spirit.

>>
>>This be the truth, not the words of man above. Continued....
>>
>>that the righteousness required of the law might be fulfilled in us, which
>>walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. For they that are carnal,
>>are carnally minded; But they that are spiritual are spiritually minded. To
>>be carnally minded is death; But to be spiritually minded is life, and
>>peace: because that the fleshly mind is enmity against God: For it is not
>>obedient to the law of God, neither can be. So then, they that are given to
>>the flesh, cannot please God. But ye are not given to the flesh; But to the
>>spirit: If so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. If there be any man
>>that hath not the spirit of Christ, the same is none of his.
>>(Rom 8:4-9 MSTC)
>>
>>
>>
>>> In the New Testament, righteousness or perfect obedience to the law
>>> remains the valid demand of God. When the young ruler asked Jesus,
>>> "What good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Jesus
>>> replied, "Keep the commandments" ?X and He quoted the very words
>>> (stipulations) of the covenant (Matt. 19:16-19).
>>>
>>
>>Yes, Jesus who lived under the Covenant of Law was bound by it. Which is
>>why the distinction needs to be made, was it before the Cross of after it.
>>Our righteousness comes not from the works of the Law, do this not that, it
>>comes
>>
>>Rom 4:6 Even as David describeth the blessedfulness of the man, unto whom
>>God ascribeth righteousness without deeds,
>>
>>
>>> Paul does not launch into his message of God's grace in his epistle to
>>> the Romans by declaring that God has relented on His demand for
>>> righteousness. Indeed, the apostle arraigns both Jew and Gentile
>>> before the judgment bar of God and shows that God is absolutely
>>> uncompromising in His demand for a righteous life:
>>>
>>
>>Of course he didn't.
>>
>>because that by the deeds of the law, shall no flesh be justified in the
>>sight of God. For by the law cometh the knowledge of sin. Now, verily, is
>>the righteousness that cometh of God declared without the fulfilling of the
>>law: having witness yet of the law, and of the prophets. The righteousness,
>>no doubt, which is good before God cometh by the faith of Jesus Christ:
>>unto all, and upon all them that believe. (Rom 3:20-22 MSTC)
>>
>>You see here the difference between self righteousness, and the
>>Righteousness of God Himself through Faith. You see it is a package deal,
>>all in one.
>>
>>2Co 5:21 for he hath made him to be sin for us, which knew no sin, that we
>>by his means should be that righteousness which before God is allowed.
>>
>>
>>> But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth
>>> against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man,
>>> that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou
>>> shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of His
>>> goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the
>>> goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and
>>> impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of
>>> wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; who will render
>>> to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient
>>> continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality,
>>> eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the
>>> truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation
>>> and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first,
>>> and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man
>>> that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for
>>> there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned
>>> without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
>>> in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law
>>> are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For
>>> when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things
>>> contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto
>>> themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
>>> their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean
>>> while accusing or else excusing one another;) in the day when God
>>> shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel
>>> (Rom. 2:2-16).
>>>
>>
>>Even here we see that the Gentiles who were not under the Law never
>>received rightousness from the Law nor following that Law of Moses.
>>
>>The author of this article is twisting this to back up his statements which
>>go against scripture, that being that we are THE righteousness of God, by
>>faith, through Christ Jesus our Lord.
>>
>>> These words of Paul remind us of what is said in the fifteenth Psalm:
>>>
>>> Lord, who shall abide in Thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in Thy
>>> holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and
>>> speaketh the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his
>>> tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach
>>> against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but
>>> he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own
>>> hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury,
>>> nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things
>>> shall never be moved.
>>>
>>
>>David, who also said, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord doth not impute
>>iniquity. Plus the verses I quoted from David above. David, who saw but
>>could not partake of what we have. David, who saw the death for the Messiah
>>upon the tree for the sin of all mankind. There are no Two ways, or two
>>paths, there is but one and it has always been by faith.
>>
>>> We may summarize the point by saying that God requires of man a holy
>>> life. The justice of God's judgment seat requires exact and perfect
>>> obedience to the divine law. Man cannot be saved unless that law be
>>> fulfilled ?X every jot and tittle of it.
>>>
>>
>>Jesus, who saved us fulfilled every jot and tittle of it, and is our
>>propitiation for sin. To summarize we are freed from the Law and if we walk
>>in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh, thus we will not
>>walk in sin, but in a constant state of forgiveness.
>>
>>To be saved, we must be born again, Jesus also said, I am the way, I am the
>>truth, I am Life, NO MAN comes to the Father but through Me. Period, end of
>>story. Without Jesus Christ we can do nothing, without being born again we
>>cannot be part of the Family of God by Faith.
>>
>>I am taking the liberty of snipping the rest as this is all answered above.
>
> The dukester, American - American
>
> ********************************************
> Repeal Obama
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************




--
Peter
A living Stone
A Disciple of The Lord Jesus Christ
Joh 13:34-35 KJV

duke

3/10/2013 4:23:00 PM

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On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:56:46 -0800, Pete <mc@ham.mer> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:22:01 -0600, duke wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Pete <mc@ham.mer> wrote:
>>
>>>Rom 6:14 Let not sin have power over you. For ye are not under the law,
>>>but under grace.
>>
>> Romans 6:14 (New International Version)
>> 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law,
>> but under grace.
>>
>> So, pete, is grace your master now? You are under grace, not by definition, but
>> by your choice, your actions.

>No.

James 2:26 is your death knell.

John 12:26 (New American Standard Bible)
26 If anyone [a]serves Me, he must follow Me; and (A)where I am, there My
servant will be also; if anyone [b]serves Me, the Father will (B)honor him.

You just can't hide from the teachings of Jesus, pete.

>>>What the Law could NOT DO...
>>>Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, inasmuch as it was weak because of
>>>the flesh -- that performed God, and sent his son in the similitude of
>>>sinful flesh, and by sin damned sin in the flesh;
>>
>> Romans 8:3-4 (New International Version)
>> 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[a]
>> God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin
>> offering.[b] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous
>> requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to
>> the flesh but according to the Spirit.
>>
>> So, pete, do you now live according to the spirit? You see, it's not something
>> you're awarded, it's something you elect to do. Do you?

>I have for a long time and said so. The Holy Spirit.

Great. I'm happy you're now following the teachings of the Lord in the Holy
Mass, 7 sacraments and the teaching authority and foundational base for Jesus'
Church on earth.

The dukester, American - American

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