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eclipse rdt is painful

jOhn

5/8/2008 2:17:00 PM

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Yeah the RDT plugin for eclipse work is painful. It used to be pretty
slick.

Eclipse v3.3 and the last RDT. The rdt guy got hired by aptana, so it looks
like that plugin is no longer or not updated. In eclipse its constantly
messing up the formatting / display, memory leaks all over the place, and
yet I keep using it b/c I've always done all my work in eclipse. Now i am
getting worried as there is no decent ruby support there AFAIK.

Does that DLTK stuff work very well ? I suppose I'll give it a go.
6 Answers

Daniel Berger

5/8/2008 2:25:00 PM

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On May 8, 8:17=A0am, jOhn <net...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah the RDT plugin for eclipse work is painful. =A0It used to be pretty
> slick.
>
> Eclipse v3.3 and the last RDT. =A0The rdt guy got hired by aptana, so it l=
ooks
> like that plugin is no longer or not updated. =A0In eclipse its constantly=

> messing up the formatting / display, memory leaks all over the place, and
> yet I keep using it b/c I've always done all my work in eclipse. =A0Now i =
am
> getting worried as there is no decent ruby support there AFAIK.
>
> Does that DLTK stuff work very well ? =A0I suppose I'll give it a go.

I agree. The copy/paste is so messed up in RDT it's dangerous (it
sometimes copies _extra_ text), and you're right about the formatting,
along with a few other weird things that happen from time to time. I
do everything in gvim now, and use Eclipse mostly for project
management or just _viewing_ Ruby files.

I'd suggest that the Sun/JRuby folks take over RDT, but I think
they're committed to Netbeans.

Regards,

Dan

jOhn

5/8/2008 3:10:00 PM

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Yep DLTK is not bad, it doesn't run unit tests in the JUnit panel/view, but
it does run them with outputs to console. Thumbs up, moving forward !

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:17 AM, jOhn <netcam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah the RDT plugin for eclipse work is painful. It used to be pretty
> slick.
>
> Eclipse v3.3 and the last RDT. The rdt guy got hired by aptana, so it
> looks like that plugin is no longer or not updated. In eclipse its
> constantly messing up the formatting / display, memory leaks all over the
> place, and yet I keep using it b/c I've always done all my work in eclipse.
> Now i am getting worried as there is no decent ruby support there AFAIK.
>
> Does that DLTK stuff work very well ? I suppose I'll give it a go.
>
>
>

jOhn

5/10/2008 5:00:00 PM

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Yeah the trick was to:

Disable all of the RDT plugins in configuration manager.

Then open the .metadata workspace folder and delete out any RDT plugins.

Then delete the ruby project files.

Then delete from the eclipse plugin folder any RDT folders or jars.

Then install DLTK for ruby. Add in your ruby interpreter.

Then you have a great workspace for ruby stuff.


On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:09 AM, jOhn <netcam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep DLTK is not bad, it doesn't run unit tests in the JUnit panel/view, but
> it does run them with outputs to console. Thumbs up, moving forward !
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:17 AM, jOhn <netcam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah the RDT plugin for eclipse work is painful. It used to be pretty
>> slick.
>>
>> Eclipse v3.3 and the last RDT. The rdt guy got hired by aptana, so it
>> looks like that plugin is no longer or not updated. In eclipse its
>> constantly messing up the formatting / display, memory leaks all over the
>> place, and yet I keep using it b/c I've always done all my work in eclipse.
>> Now i am getting worried as there is no decent ruby support there AFAIK.
>>
>> Does that DLTK stuff work very well ? I suppose I'll give it a go.
>>
>>
>>
>

Phlip

5/10/2008 5:32:00 PM

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> Then you have a great workspace for ruby stuff.

Can it do this?

- register, a unit test case or suite to run for the current effort
- run those cases at _one_ keystroke, from any document
- keep the editor focused during the run
- optionally navigate to any file and line at fault time

We have been auditioning editors, including the RDT forks, and including
Netbeans and TextMate, and we can't seem to find that exact set of fairly
obvious features. Yes I'm aware some editors run some tests in some
situations. That feature list should be obvious to anyone doing TDD, even 10
years ago, and we seem grateful these days that editor vendors even
recognize the existence of unit testing.

If they had put as much effort into testing as they put into debugging...

--
Phlip
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780...
"Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)"
assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax


Daniel Berger

5/11/2008 1:30:00 AM

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On May 10, 11:00 am, jOhn <net...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah the trick was to:
>
> Disable all of the RDT plugins in configuration manager.
>
> Then open the .metadata workspace folder and delete out any RDT plugins.
>
> Then delete the ruby project files.
>
> Then delete from the eclipse plugin folder any RDT folders or jars.
>
> Then install DLTK for ruby. Add in your ruby interpreter.
>
> Then you have a great workspace for ruby stuff.

Um, isn't the DLTK for Ruby just RDT? Because, now that I look at the
configuration, I don't have an explicit entry for RDT, just DLTK for
Ruby. So, all of the problems I've described actually apply to DLTK.

Regards,

Dan

jOhn

5/12/2008 4:24:00 PM

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Nope, RDT is from rubypeople.org and is now dead. DLTK is an official
eclipse dynamic lang toolkit. If you update your eclipse, be sure to scroll
to the bottom repo and select the DLTK repo for the latest updates, I don't
have any issues other than no JUnit (and the nice greenbar) panel for unit
tests.


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On May 10, 11:00 am, jOhn <net...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah the trick was to:
> >
> > Disable all of the RDT plugins in configuration manager.
> >
> > Then open the .metadata workspace folder and delete out any RDT plugins.
> >
> > Then delete the ruby project files.
> >
> > Then delete from the eclipse plugin folder any RDT folders or jars.
> >
> > Then install DLTK for ruby. Add in your ruby interpreter.
> >
> > Then you have a great workspace for ruby stuff.
>
> Um, isn't the DLTK for Ruby just RDT? Because, now that I look at the
> configuration, I don't have an explicit entry for RDT, just DLTK for
> Ruby. So, all of the problems I've described actually apply to DLTK.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>