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Chicken Invaders 3

espinozaasutin

3/22/2008 8:29:00 AM

Download Chicken Invaders 3

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sheetsofsound

2/12/2014 1:52:00 PM

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On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 7:43:09 AM UTC-5, Jens W wrote:
> found a bunch of reviews from Zucker of the preamp version of the Ethos
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Rob told me he's coming out with a 70w (or higher) version of the ethos pedal.

dunlop212

2/13/2014 9:53:00 PM

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I think the bass amp manufacturers have been doing this for years; check out this GK MB200 review from 2011:

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/11...

sheetsofsound

2/13/2014 10:25:00 PM

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On Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:53:12 PM UTC-5, dunlop212 wrote:
> I think the bass amp manufacturers have been doing this for years; check out this GK MB200 review from 2011:
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the diff is the preamp. They haven't been doing *THAT* for years.

dunlop212

2/14/2014 12:22:00 AM

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On Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:25:07 PM UTC-5, jaz wrote:
> On Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:53:12 PM UTC-5, dunlop212 wrote:
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I was referring to the tiny amp linked by the OP. But replying to a thread in google is confusing ...

sheetsofsound

2/14/2014 2:05:00 AM

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On Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:22:05 PM UTC-5, dunlop212 wrote:
> I was referring to the tiny amp linked by the OP. But replying to a thread in google is confusing ...

Yes, so was I. I was the OP. And the GK amp is completely different. Doesn't have a fender preamp like the one I originally posted

Tim McNamara

2/14/2014 6:32:00 AM

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JOn Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:53:12 -0800 (PST), dunlop212
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> I think the bass amp manufacturers have been doing this for years;
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Thing is, a tube preamp with a solid state power amp is going to sound
less "tubey" than a solid state preamp with a tube power amp, especially
when pusing the amp into some overdrive. But that defeats the marketing
purpose of small/light/tubey because it's the power amp section that by
and large makes tube amps big and heavy (big tubes, power transformer,
output transformer, choke, big caps, etc.). It's easier to make a
compact amp with a tube preamp section and a solid power section.

That said, some of the class D amps sound pretty good.

sheetsofsound

2/14/2014 1:57:00 PM

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On Friday, February 14, 2014 1:32:20 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:
> Thing is, a tube preamp with a solid state power amp is going to sound
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Disagree. Most modern tube overdrive is preamp based. Only the very old, '60s rock bands used power tube overdrive. Robben Ford, Allen Holdsworth and most modern guys fusion guys are using tube preamp distortion. If you want to get grungy overdrive ala neil young you would be correct but I think it's safe to say that most jazzers wouldn't gravitate towards that.

JBAFromNY

2/14/2014 3:10:00 PM

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On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, jaz wrote:
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 1:32:20 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:
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> Disagree. Most modern tube overdrive is preamp based. Only the very old, '60s rock bands used power tube overdrive. Robben Ford, Allen Holdsworth and most modern guys fusion guys are using tube preamp distortion. If you want to get grungy overdrive ala neil young you would be correct but I think it's safe to say that most jazzers wouldn't gravitate towards that.

I would quibble a little with that -- for instance Robben Ford live is REALLY loud (or at least he was the times I saw him) and he has a singing-feedback, rich, power-amp overdrive tone that you don't get on the studio recordings. Ditto with Larry Carlton, though IME he doesn't crank it up nearly as loud as RF and has tended to use smaller amps. Also, for tons of blues players, tone is still based on pushing the whole amp into overdrive (at least until the club owner makes you turn down). There definitely are plenty of people for whom tone is built primarily in the preamp, but I think you're overstating the prevalence of it a bit.

John

TD

2/14/2014 3:20:00 PM

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On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:10:22 AM UTC-5, John A wrote:
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, jaz wrote:
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> I would quibble a little with that -- for instance Robben Ford live is REALLY loud (or at least he was the times I saw him) and he has a singing-feedback, rich, power-amp overdrive tone that you don't get on the studio recordings. Ditto with Larry Carlton, though IME he doesn't crank it up nearly as loud as RF and has tended to use smaller amps. Also, for tons of blues players, tone is still based on pushing the whole amp into overdrive (at least until the club owner makes you turn down). There definitely are plenty of people for whom tone is built primarily in the preamp, but I think you're overstating the prevalence of it a bit.
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I know that there is still an audience for where such items are basic requirements, but I for one am not among the attendance.

sheetsofsound

2/14/2014 3:29:00 PM

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On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:10:22 AM UTC-5, John A wrote:
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, jaz wrote:
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i don't think so. Almost all the fusion guys are using pedals for overdrive these days and many such as gambale and holdsworth are using SS amps. And clubs aren't what they used to be. There are few clubs in most cities that let the guitarist turn up a tube amp to the point of getting power tube distortion.

Check out the clips on the ethos site for many examples of overdrive with SS amps or direct into the board.

http://www.customtonesinc.com/Sound_Clips_Eth...

Point back to Tim's point which i disagree with is that I believe it's the preamp which gives the tubeyness unless you're talking, '60s grunge overdrive. When I plug my fender showman preamp into my quilter or AI amp, it's VERY tuby and sounds like a fender amp.