poisoned rose
7/1/2010 5:51:00 AM
The Nice Mean Man <hitherandyon@aol.com> wrote:
You repeat yourself so much that you don't make any arguments which I
haven't already shot down. Pointless to go through the dance again.
Oh, and I'm sure you like pre-'60s music more than I do. The difference
is that I'll just say that most of it doesn't turn me on. Rather than
making myself look like a flaming idiot with screaming, meathead
proclamations about it's worthless to the entire world, etc. etc.
PS You really didn't need to point out that you can't process any music
which isn't based on blues roots. I figured that out long ago.
> On Jun 30, 2:44 am, poisoned rose <pro...@realitychex.com> wrote:
> > The Nice Mean Man <hitherand...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > LOL is right..... It's your music and it's BORING, ONE-DIMENSIONAL,
> > > UNINSPIRED, UN-ORIGINAL, CHEAP and on top of everything else,
> > > completely UN-HIP. These bands and the lost souls in them offer
> > > nothing new. And I ve heard them ALL most of them attempting to bust a
> > > nut like their precious Nirvana. Bands like Breaking Benjamin, 3 Days
> > > Grace, Strapping Young Lad, Smile Unto Soul, Atreyu, Bullet For My
> > > Valentine, Slipknot, American Head Charge, Mudvayne.... I ve heard it
> > > all.
> >
> > You haven't heard shit. Basically, you've heard a small range of
> > similar-sounding rawk stuff which you hoped might fulfill your narrow,
> > macho-meathead, guitar-dood perspective on music.
> >
>
> Bullshit. I've heard it all. NO inspiration. No fuel to make it to
> anywhere from where they are. Zero on the odometer. It's right there
> on the radio or in your local record shop. TRASH. Uninspired tripe.
> The bottom fell out years ago, but simple little fools like YOU 'know
> too much' to even see it.
>
> Oh, well... I guess we all have to have something to live for........
>
>
> > Guess what? I think most of those bands suck too. But the difference is
> > that I know where to look to find the ones who DON'T suck.
> >
>
>
> Nothing from nothing is still nothing. And those were the best ones
> that I could think of! LOL.....!!!
>
> NO drum soloists.. NO bass greats.. NO keyboard legends.... And very,
> very few guitar virtuosos. One or two that comes to mind only. They
> simply AREN'T given any spotlight. Hard to do when your no-talent
> macho-assed howling vocalist spends the entire show prowling the stage
> in an ever-widening search for an untrained VH1 movie camera...
>
>
> > > You don t understand the Godhead admiration surrounding the Beatles.
> > > You don t get the glory or respect surrounding Jimi Hendrix. I've seen
> > > your attitudes posted on those subjects already. That would tend to
> > > explain why you like the utter SHIT that you do. Utter shit, man.
> > > Utter and complete defecate...
> >
> > You don't even know what I like. You don't know the names of the
> > Artists, and you certainly haven't heard them.
> >
>
> Think back, you miserable little TWERP... I know that you can remember
> a little of what went down in here years ago. I know everything..
> Everything.
>
> Bet you like rap, too.... Talk about miserable. But at least it's
> inspired.
>
>
> > > Where are your generation's Bass Guitar heroes? Lead Guitar heroes?
> > > Keyboard heroes? Drum Heroes? Come on, wise guy... Let's DEBATE.
> >
> > It's a pointless debate to me, because I'd dispute your fundamental
> > assumption that the quality of music entirely depends on how much
> > "celebrity chops" the band features.
> >
>
>
> Well, not EVERY gig that Hendrix played was a total mind-blowing
> smashing success, I guess.... And that Jack Bruce guy.... I know he
> had a couple of gigs where he didn't blow a few minds. And Pete
> TOWNSHEND.... I guess that there were a few gigs where he didn't slice
> his hand open while performing the greatest show on earth that YOU'D
> never see... And that Jerry Garcia dude... he pretty much sucked there
> at the end. When he was drowning in his own fluids and all. Just
> before he died, you know,... Yeah... a few gigs on that `95 tour. I
> guess you're right there.
>
> Tell me...why haven't your bands produced any stand-out Lead
> guitarists, Bass players, Keyboardist or Drummers? Any worthy of the
> reputations of their predecessors, that is...? Apparently it isn?t
> only me who holds such a high standard. NOBODY CARES about the playing
> abilities of almost ANY of the people you listen to. Never see any
> write-ups. Never hear any fan chatter... Nothing. Why..? Because they
> DON'T EXIST (one or two excepted). But pray-tell, what else is
> new.....
>
>
>
> > You "chops" types are always so narrow and oblivious...totally unable to
> > shift gears out of that mode. Such a bore.
> >
>
> Well, since I dig just about everyone from the 50s, 60 and most of the
> 70s, that doesn?t really leave YOU very much room to operate. Name
> 'em...We'll TALK!
>
> > > Well, I'm SURE that all of today's "artists" won't fall into every
> > > category. But the ones that I hear on MY radio and TV do!
> >
> > Your complaint was about bands you see on talk shows. And I proved your
> > point was flat wrong.
> >
>
> I am still complaining. They ALL suck. Songs of total lozer
> desperation. Lousy songwriting ideas. Terrible stage images. No
> harmonies. I've heard it all for YEARS. The only thing they got going
> for them in my book is the fact that a lot of them have pink hair.
> Freak show qualities. The wife and I lay around night after night and
> laugh about them . ALL of them. All but a very few...
>
> Dig Zappa?
>
> > > It is everywhere. You cannot deny it. You might not LIKE it, but
> > > that's the way it is. Angry fucking NOISE for angry powerless people.
> >
> > You don't know anything...stop pretending you do.
> >
>
> How much does one have to know to see that you're without a single
> clue. Apparently just a little more than nothing.
>
>
> > If anything, WIMPY is in nowadays. So many of today's buzz bands are led
> > by non-masculine, collegiate types with vulnerable personalities. The
> > Postal Service, Vampire Weekend, Death Cab for Cutie, Owl City, Phoenix,
> > Bright Eyes, Grizzly Bear, the Decemberists, A.C. Newman, Of Montreal, Iron
> > & Wine, Bon Iver, etc.
> >
> > Your stereotyping is years out of date.
> >
>
>
> Like I say... turn on the late show sometimes.. Even quality shows
> like Austin City Limits have started to slip. Know why...?? Because
> they're using some of the newer contemporary shit. Probably the stuff
> you like.
>
> > > But Jeremy DID 'speak' today, didn't he...? Huhh.. Gotta rethink that
> > > one.
> >
> > Look how even your references are 20 years out of date.
> >
>
> Hey... the shit I sited is hot off the presses. What else do you want?
> That silly little weird-ass music for silly weird-ass little people
> that I was taking about, I'd go to wager...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'd offer you the same advice I've offered Raja in the past: Leave Usenet
> > for five years, do nothing but catch up on
> > contemporary music during that time, and then come back. Then maybe you can
> > convince a few people that you know
> > what you're talking about.
> >
>
>
> I see you like <snipping> what you don?t like to deal with. That be
> okay, cause I got all the originals. We'll just have to start
> over......
>
>
>
>
> SO..... Do you dig 50s stuff? If so, then who? We can start now and
> we won?t touch the same performer twice for at least a week. You DO
> know that the Beatles were pretty keen on them, right? Have you
> started to figure out the value of the blues as it applies to rock
> music yet? Ever listen to giants like Son House and Charley Patton? If
> so, which part of Son House?s recording career did you find the most
> satisfying and why? If you dig Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones at
> all, you need to know about these guys. How about The Carter family or
> Jimmy Rogers? Or Merle Travis, Earl Scruggs, Charlie Poole or Doc
> Watson? Or Sam and Kirk McGee? How about Hank Williams? Let?s talk old
> time country for a spell. They had quite a bit to do with early rock
> music, you know. Or how ?bouts Bo Carter, Roosevelt Sykes or Leroy
> Carr? Or Lonnie, Tommy, Blind Willie or Robert Johnson? Or Blind
> Willie McTell or Robert (Bar-be-que Bob) Hicks? Don?t you know that's
> where rock and roll came from in the first place? Why don?t you
> already know all about it..? I mean, how much can you know about the
> ?here and now? when you never look back beyond all of that angst
> bullshit? I've followed the music back for DECADES and I know my shit,
> lady. You'll see if you want to take me on. And THAT is why I KNOW
> that today's music ain't worth a hoot... For one thing, most of them
> have abandoned their blues roots. That's the first and foremost
> problem. Now all they got is a memory of what it is supposed to be, so
> they can produce their next electronic nightmare.... so people like
> YOU can declare it ?original?. And they got the NERVE to call our
> stuff..."old school".. LOL.....!!! You bet it's old school. Theyu
> should know...They're the ones who drew the line when they left it.
> There were very few lines like this before it. And now YOUR MUSIC is
> dying a slow loathsome death becasue it AIN'T GOT NO ROOT SYSTEM. And
> everybody knows it, too? Well, everyone but the blind.
>
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> Hey ROZE?.. Don?t forget your CANE when you leave.
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> The Nice Mean Man