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Re: MAP (and variants) vs LOOP - Popular opinion observation?

William James

11/3/2015 4:50:00 PM

Pascal Bourguignon wrote:

> One advantage of map* is that you can easily build them step by step
> at the REPL:
>
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-processing x)) data)

Why not

(mapcar #'some-processing data)


Worshippers of CL (COBOL-Like) are the worst enemies of
Lispy programming.


>
> then when the output is what you expect,
>
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-more-processing x))
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-processing x)) data))
>
> then some more:
>
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-very-more-processing x))
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-more-processing x))
> (mapcar (lambda (x) (some-processing x)) data)))
>
> etc. This "filter" frame can be more natural than a loop some times.
> (But frankly, in general I eventually rewrite them as LOOPs, once
> bottom-up'ed).

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15 Answers

BeamMeUpScotty

4/5/2012 2:48:00 PM

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On 4/5/2012 10:40 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 10:42 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &
>>> Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas
>>
>> Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
>> predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>>
>
> It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years
> ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.


The sun will come up....


Obama will be a Socialist...?


The government will be screwing we the people?






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Yoorghis

4/5/2012 4:07:00 PM

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:40:41 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>
wrote:

>> Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
>> predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>>
>
>It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years
>ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.

THe old fool ought to be able to predict what happens in a loonytarian
model of government---he should have read history.

You'll notice he NEVER refers to the era of American government when
his brand of nonsense WAS in vogue and the massive problems it caused.

Yoorghis

4/5/2012 4:09:00 PM

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:47:33 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestroyEverything@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>>
>> It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years
>> ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.
>
>
>The sun will come up....

Only (in your case), if wingers don't "Craft messages" telling you
that it will be in the west.

>Obama will be a Socialist...?

That would be silly wet-dream #234 of yours.

>The government will be screwing we the people?

Always happens under Republican/conservatives

Eddie Haskell

4/5/2012 5:00:00 PM

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"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message
news:pNudnZd_ncT4MuDSnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Phlip wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 10:42 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &
>>> Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas
>>
>> Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
>> predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>>
>
> It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years
> ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.

It'll be Friday.

Heh heh..

Man, too easy..

Heh heh..

-Eddie Haskell


.MattB.

4/5/2012 5:32:00 PM

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On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 05:52:29 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 4, 10:42?pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>> Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &
>> Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas
>
>Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
>predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>
>One colleague quoted Mein Kampf's technique of frightening the
>laboring classes to make them compliant.


I knew a attack would eventually happen, never even thought of like
that.

I heard some college kids predicting the financial meltdown more than
2 years before it happened and why. Those in Government knew less
that kids in college?

Never liked Ron Paul but did like this speech. Liked the way he
described Congress.

jigo

4/5/2012 7:50:00 PM

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linuxgal wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 10:42 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &
>>> Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas
>>
>> Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
>> predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>>
>
> It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven
> years ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.

You're confusing claiming a prediction that you didn't make with a
prediction that was in substance made, i.e., the loss of personal
liberties in the name of fighting terrorism. And the really important
point is that this is happening to a frightening degree. Read Ken
Macleod's _The Execution Channel_ for a real scary extrapolation of
those trends.

Phlip

4/6/2012 2:27:00 AM

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On Apr 5, 9:07 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:40:41 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11
> >> predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.
>
> >It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years
> >ago.   Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.
>
> THe old fool ought to be able to predict what happens in a loonytarian
> model of government---he should have read history.
>
> You'll notice he NEVER refers to the era of American government when
> his brand of nonsense WAS in vogue and the massive problems it caused.

Ya'll have lost track who you are replying to.

Phlip

4/6/2012 2:29:00 AM

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On Apr 5, 10:32 am, .MattB. <trdell1...@Nomorespamgmail.com> wrote:

>  I heard some college kids predicting the financial meltdown more than
> 2 years before it happened and why.

Dick Cheney's personal accountant predicted the 2007 collapse would
happen, in 2005...

But at least those guys weren't socialists like Obama!

.MattB.

4/6/2012 3:39:00 AM

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On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:28:35 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 5, 10:32?am, .MattB. <trdell1...@Nomorespamgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ?I heard some college kids predicting the financial meltdown more than
>> 2 years before it happened and why.
>
>Dick Cheney's personal accountant predicted the 2007 collapse would
>happen, in 2005...
>
>But at least those guys weren't socialists like Obama!


I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the
government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have
softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

linuxgal

4/6/2012 1:42:00 PM

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.MattB. wrote:

> I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the
> government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have
> softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

Obviously there would be fewer mortgages underwater if the brakes were
applied in 2005 rather than 2007 when $700,000 McMansions were going to
$14,000 a year migrant lettuce-pickers.