Bill M
6/20/2011 3:03:00 PM
You quite obviouslly have and over active and false imagination. Get a real
education - not
something taught by priests and nuns.
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT), grouch <ajo8272@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Yet that is exactly the opposite of the truth. NOTHING is done with
>>> God's
>>> approval. God created man is his own image, and to do that, he had to
>>> give man
>>> a free will. Our free will allows us to follow God or to play God
>>> ourselves.
>>> This is the case reflected in the Adam & Eve story. God said "do not",
>>> and Eve
>>> said "we'll decide, not you". And so it began.
>>
>>Tell me about the free will of the people in the first book of the
>>Bible, ...following are 10 examples out of hundreds:
>
>>Genesis
>
>>Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables,
>>Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8
>>
>>"I will destroy ... both man and beast."
>>God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping
>>things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He
>>plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17
>>
>>"Every living substance that I have made will I destroy."
>>God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off
>>the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent
>>animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never
>>gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
>>
>>"All flesh died that moved upon the earth."
>>God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala
>>bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all.
>>7:21-23
>>
>>God sends a plague on the Pharaoh and his household because the
>>Pharaoh believed Abram's lie. 12:17
>>
>>God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter
>>makes God feel better. 15:9-10
>>
>>Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to
>>Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she
>>fled." 16:6
>>
>>"I will not destroy it for ten's sake."
>>I guess God couldn't find even ten good Sodomites because he decides
>>to kill them all in Genesis 19. Too bad Abraham didn't ask God about
>>the children. Why not save them? If Abraham could find 10 good
>>children, toddlers, infants, or babies, would God spare the city?
>>Apparently not. God doesn't give a damn about children. 18:32
>>
>>Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his
>>two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to
>>"do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the
>>same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8.
>>19:7-8
>>
>>God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom
>>and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of
>>heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous"
>>Lot and his family. 19:24
>
> 1. Genesis 1-11 is not a scientific accounting of God's creation of the
> heavens
> and earth and all in it, but instead Israel's faith statement thereof.
> Gen
> 1-11 was written after 2 Kings.
>
> 2. God revealed to man, but man never met God. Moses "talked to a
> burning
> bush". Man has never seen God. But God became man in the person of
> Jesus
> Christ to die on the cross for the redemption from sin and the salvation
> of our
> souls.
>
> 3. Men thought they could call God their own, but not the God of their
> enemy.
> So they spoke and thought as though "their" God thought as they did. It's
> generally believed that the golden calf was not an item of worship but
> "something so beautiful" that God would move in and be theirs.
>
>>> And so we advise God in our personal lives as to our choice - him or us.
>>> And if
>>> we show we don't want any part of him in our lives now, he will grant us
>>> our
>>> chosen desire for all eternity.
>>
>>How do you advise an unknown, unseen, unheard, untouchable,
>>unreachable, untruthful God?
>
> We "advise" him by our human ways and selections: good over bad, right
> over
> wrong, love over hate.
>
> John 13:34 (New International Version)
> 34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so
> you
> must love one another.
>
> The dukester, American-American
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> Pope Paul VI
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