Asp Forum - Quit, if a specific key is hit

Pavankumar Kulkarni

1/17/2008 5:43:00 AM

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

Excuse me, if this is already discussed... but from from here
<http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-lan.....
the author concludes that the following problem cannot be solved.. whats
the reason?
"Display series of numbers (1,2,3,4, 5....etc) in an infinite loop. The
program should quit if someone hits a specific key (Say ESCAPE key)."

--
Regards,
Pavankumar Kulkarni * Software Developer * Persistent Systems Ltd

6 Answers

James Gray

1/17/2008 1:28:00 PM

On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Pavankumar Kulkarni wrote:

> Excuse me, if this is already discussed... but from from here <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming...
> >.. the author concludes that the following problem cannot be
> solved.. whats the reason?
> "Display series of numbers (1,2,3,4, 5....etc) in an infinite loop.
> The program should quit if someone hits a specific key (Say ESCAPE
> key)."

It can definitely be solved. Here's a solution that works on most
Unix-like operating systems, for example:

#!/usr/bin/env ruby -wKU

require "io/wait"

state = `stty -g`
begin
system "stty raw -echo cbreak isig"

1.upto(1.0/0.0) do |n|
puts n
exit if $stdin.ready? and $stdin.getc == 27
end

ensure
system "stty #{state}"
end

__END__

What the author actually said was that it can't solve it without
writing some platform specific code or threads. I don't know how to
do it without using one of those tricks either.

The reason is that all terminals are different and you are needing to
interact with it on two levels at once (reading while writing). This
is what introduces the need for the platform specific code.

James Edward Gray II

John Joyce

1/18/2008 1:06:00 AM

On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:28 AM, James Gray wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Pavankumar Kulkarni wrote:
>
>> Excuse me, if this is already discussed... but from from here
>> <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exer...
>> learning-a-new-programming-language/>.. the author concludes that
>> the following problem cannot be solved.. whats the reason?
>> "Display series of numbers (1,2,3,4, 5....etc) in an infinite
>> loop. The program should quit if someone hits a specific key (Say
>> ESCAPE key)."
>
> It can definitely be solved. Here's a solution that works on most
> Unix-like operating systems, for example:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env ruby -wKU
>
> require "io/wait"
>
> state = `stty -g`
> begin
> system "stty raw -echo cbreak isig"
>
> 1.upto(1.0/0.0) do |n|
> puts n
> exit if $stdin.ready? and $stdin.getc == 27
> end
>
> ensure
> system "stty #{state}"
> end
>
> __END__
>
> What the author actually said was that it can't solve it without
> writing some platform specific code or threads. I don't know how
> to do it without using one of those tricks either.
>
> The reason is that all terminals are different and you are needing
> to interact with it on two levels at once (reading while writing).
> This is what introduces the need for the platform specific code.
>
> James Edward Gray II
>
>
In many of the game libraries, input for different platforms is
addressed.
This one of those cases where the game libraries, such as Gosu or
rubygame, or Ruby/SDL are going to be very useful for a non game.
most game libs have a very fundamental need for input control, and a
pretty important need for crossplatform code abstraction.
You don't need to know much about them, just enough to get the keys
under your control!
But the plus is, you can also get a GUI up without much work.

Pavankumar Kulkarni

1/18/2008 4:10:00 AM

Cool.. that clears some air!.. Cheers guys!!..
Hail Ruby Community!! :)

--
Pavan
Software Developer
Persistent Systems Ltd, Goa, India

John Joyce wrote:
>
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:28 AM, James Gray wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Pavankumar Kulkarni wrote:
>>
>>> Excuse me, if this is already discussed... but from from here
>>> <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-lan.....
>>> the author concludes that the following problem cannot be solved..
>>> whats the reason?
>>> "Display series of numbers (1,2,3,4, 5....etc) in an infinite loop.
>>> The program should quit if someone hits a specific key (Say ESCAPE
>>> key)."
>>
>> It can definitely be solved. Here's a solution that works on most
>> Unix-like operating systems, for example:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/env ruby -wKU
>>
>> require "io/wait"
>>
>> state = `stty -g`
>> begin
>> system "stty raw -echo cbreak isig"
>>
>> 1.upto(1.0/0.0) do |n|
>> puts n
>> exit if $stdin.ready? and $stdin.getc == 27
>> end
>>
>> ensure
>> system "stty #{state}"
>> end
>>
>> __END__
>>
>> What the author actually said was that it can't solve it without
>> writing some platform specific code or threads. I don't know how to
>> do it without using one of those tricks either.
>>
>> The reason is that all terminals are different and you are needing to
>> interact with it on two levels at once (reading while writing). This
>> is what introduces the need for the platform specific code.
>>
>> James Edward Gray II
>>
>>
> In many of the game libraries, input for different platforms is
> addressed.
> This one of those cases where the game libraries, such as Gosu or
> rubygame, or Ruby/SDL are going to be very useful for a non game.
> most game libs have a very fundamental need for input control, and a
> pretty important need for crossplatform code abstraction.
> You don't need to know much about them, just enough to get the keys
> under your control!
> But the plus is, you can also get a GUI up without much work.
>
>

Pavankumar Kulkarni

1/18/2008 10:19:00 AM

I found a platform independent solution to this in one of the comments
of that link(below) here
<http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-language/#commen....

i=0
loop do
begin
break if STDIN.read_nonblock(1000)
rescue Errno::EAGAIN
end
puts i
i += 1
end

Cheers,
Pavankumar Kulkarni * Software Developer * Persistent Systems Ltd

John Joyce wrote:
>
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:28 AM, James Gray wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Pavankumar Kulkarni wrote:
>>
>>> Excuse me, if this is already discussed... but from from here
>>> <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-lan.....
>>> the author concludes that the following problem cannot be solved..
>>> whats the reason?
>>> "Display series of numbers (1,2,3,4, 5....etc) in an infinite loop.
>>> The program should quit if someone hits a specific key (Say ESCAPE
>>> key)."
>>
>> It can definitely be solved. Here's a solution that works on most
>> Unix-like operating systems, for example:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/env ruby -wKU
>>
>> require "io/wait"
>>
>> state = `stty -g`
>> begin
>> system "stty raw -echo cbreak isig"
>>
>> 1.upto(1.0/0.0) do |n|
>> puts n
>> exit if $stdin.ready? and $stdin.getc == 27
>> end
>>
>> ensure
>> system "stty #{state}"
>> end
>>
>> __END__
>>
>> What the author actually said was that it can't solve it without
>> writing some platform specific code or threads. I don't know how to
>> do it without using one of those tricks either.
>>
>> The reason is that all terminals are different and you are needing to
>> interact with it on two levels at once (reading while writing). This
>> is what introduces the need for the platform specific code.
>>
>> James Edward Gray II
>>
>>
> In many of the game libraries, input for different platforms is
> addressed.
> This one of those cases where the game libraries, such as Gosu or
> rubygame, or Ruby/SDL are going to be very useful for a non game.
> most game libs have a very fundamental need for input control, and a
> pretty important need for crossplatform code abstraction.
> You don't need to know much about them, just enough to get the keys
> under your control!
> But the plus is, you can also get a GUI up without much work.
>
>

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

1/18/2008 4:17:00 PM

On Jan 18, 2008 4:19 AM, Pavankumar Kulkarni wrote:
> I found a platform independent solution to this in one of the comments
> of that link(below) here
> <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-language/#commen....
> rescue Errno::EAGAIN

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that _all_ Errnos
were platform-dependant.

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

Marcelo

1/18/2008 4:45:00 PM

On Jan 18, 2008 4:19 AM, Pavankumar Kulkarni
<pavankumar_kulkarni@persistent.co.in> wrote:

> I found a platform independent solution to this in one of the comments
> of that link(below) here
> <http://www.rubyrailways.com/implementing-15-exercises-for-learning-a-new-programming-language/#commen....

That does not fulfill the stated requirements, does it?
>
> i=0
> loop do
> begin
> break if STDIN.read_nonblock(1000)

C defines stdin to be buffered, so characters will pile up in the
buffer until an EOL is seen or the buffer is full. It might be the
case that some platform does not do this, but in general the program
won't stop until you press a lot of keys or (usually), press enter.

Marcelo

comp.lang.ruby

Quit, if a specific key is hit

Pavankumar Kulkarni

James Gray

John Joyce

Pavankumar Kulkarni

Pavankumar Kulkarni

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

Marcelo

x Login to ForumsZone