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Ruby and boogers

tmpmaster

12/6/2007 2:43:00 PM

Hi

Found a commercial where Java Duke is contemplating about Ruby while
picking his nose and eating boogers: http://www.zeroturnaround.com/a-javare...

Mark
7 Answers

Rick DeNatale

12/6/2007 3:14:00 PM

0

On 12/6/07, tmpmaster@gmail.com <tmpmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Found a commercial where Java Duke is contemplating about Ruby while
> picking his nose and eating boogers: http://www.zeroturnaround.com/a-javare...
>
> Mark

Yeah but he still doesn't get it.

1. "Even RUBY looks attractive."
2. The product being advertised might help with his write bug, test,
find bug cycle time, but he's still going to get carpal tunnel from
all that extra typing!

--
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denh...

Jano Svitok

12/6/2007 4:53:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 2007 4:13 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/6/07, tmpmaster@gmail.com <tmpmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Found a commercial where Java Duke is contemplating about Ruby while
> > picking his nose and eating boogers: http://www.zeroturnaround.com/a-javare...
> >
> > Mark
>
> Yeah but he still doesn't get it.
>
> 1. "Even RUBY looks attractive."
> 2. The product being advertised might help with his write bug, test,
> find bug cycle time, but he's still going to get carpal tunnel from
> all that extra typing!

Right. Perhaps he'll learn about duck typing someday ;-)

> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denh...

Robert Dober

12/6/2007 5:13:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 2007 5:52 PM, Jano Svitok <jan.svitok@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2007 4:13 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/6/07, tmpmaster@gmail.com <tmpmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Found a commercial where Java Duke is contemplating about Ruby while
> > > picking his nose and eating boogers: http://www.zeroturnaround.com/a-javare...
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
> > Yeah but he still doesn't get it.
> >
> > 1. "Even RUBY looks attractive."
> > 2. The product being advertised might help with his write bug, test,
> > find bug cycle time, but he's still going to get carpal tunnel from
> > all that extra typing!
>
> Right. Perhaps he'll learn about duck typing someday ;-)
One should in any case duck when typing such things ;)
Robert
--

http://ruby-smalltalk.blo...

---
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it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Curt Sampson

12/8/2007 2:29:00 AM

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On 2007-12-07 01:52 +0900 (Fri), Jano Svitok wrote:

> > [Java blah blah blah]
>
> Right. Perhaps he'll learn about duck typing someday ;-)

Static typing is infinitely superior to dynamic typing when done
properly. Just remember, Java's failure here is that it does it so
badly.

As far as folks using Java goes: I write software for a living. The more
of my competition use Java, the better for me.

cjs
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Curt Sampson <cjs@starling-software.com> +81 90 7737 2974
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Robert Dober

12/8/2007 11:23:00 AM

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On Dec 8, 2007 3:29 AM, Curt Sampson <cjs@cynic.net> wrote:
> On 2007-12-07 01:52 +0900 (Fri), Jano Svitok wrote:
>
> > > [Java blah blah blah]
> >
> > Right. Perhaps he'll learn about duck typing someday ;-)
>
> Static typing is infinitely superior
of course Curt, of course, infinitely, maybe you can give us some data
for your bold (and that's a, euphemism ;) statement.
> to dynamic typing when done
> properly. Just remember, Java's failure here is that it does it so
> badly.
>
> As far as folks using Java goes: I write software for a living. The more
> of my competition use Java, the better for me.
That however sounds true to me.
R.

--

http://ruby-smalltalk.blo...

---
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second,
it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Schopenhauer (attr.)

Marc Heiler

12/10/2007 4:22:00 AM

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> Static typing is infinitely superior to dynamic typing when done
> properly. Just remember, Java's failure here is that it does it so
> badly.

Dynamic typing is infinitely superior to static typing when done
properly.
Just remember, ruby's success is because it does not enforce its
paradigm onto your brain.
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-....

Curt Sampson

12/10/2007 3:12:00 PM

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On 2007-12-10 12:11 +0900 (Mon), Dido Sevilla wrote:

> What is an implementation of static typing that you would consider
> done right then? A language that makes use of something like the
> Hindley-Milner type inference algorithm so that types don't usually
> need to be explicitly declared? Ocaml or Haskell?

Yes. I'm quite fond of Haskell.

Type classes in particular are wonderful; they get rid of that problem
in Ruby where you're always wondering which particular equality and
comparison methods you should be implementing, and which ones your
superclass can safely provide for you.

It's very comforting to write a piece of code and know that, due to the
compiler's type checking, it's impossible for someone (usually me, down
the road) to misuse it.

cjs
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