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ANN: English 0.1

Trans

10/12/2007 3:58:00 PM

English 0.1

http://english.rub...

The initial release of English has hit the streets. English is a
Facets spin-off project --containing all the libraries related to
working with the English language and language text in general. Among
these are libraries for plural/singular noun inflection, word
filtering, obfuscation, numerals as words, roman numerals, and so on.

This is a very early release so expect the API to shift a bit as it
develops. And please, let me know if you'd like to see anything
changed or added to the library.

gem install english

T.
16 Answers

Alex Young

10/12/2007 4:02:00 PM

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Trans wrote:
> English 0.1
>
> http://english.rub...
I hate to point this out, but isn't having "require 'english'" and
"require 'English'" both being valid and completely different going to
be rather confusing?

--
Alex

Trans

10/12/2007 4:15:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 9:02 am, Alex Young <a...@blackkettle.org> wrote:
> Trans wrote:
> > English 0.1
>
> >http://english.rub...
>
> I hate to point this out, but isn't having "require 'english'" and
> "require 'English'" both being valid and completely different going to
> be rather confusing?

Well, there is no "require 'english'" but rather "require 'english/
somelib'". But despite the name overlap I think we can manage.

Besides, "English" is a rather poor name for what that library does
IMHO; and Facets has an OOP alternative called 'rbsystem' (albeit it
could still use some fine tuning).

T.

Arlen Cuss

10/12/2007 4:22:00 PM

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Hi,

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 00:58 +0900, Trans wrote:
> English 0.1
>
> http://english.rub...

I don't mean to sound abrupt, but why are there so many spelling/grammar
errors on the main page? Missing 'for' in the first sentence, `a few',
`fantastic', `general', `handle'.. sorry. It just seems ironic for a gem
named english.

Arlen

Arlen Cuss

10/12/2007 4:32:00 PM

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Sorry, I think I came off fairly harshly and probably not in an
understanding in my last mail. Feel free to disregard.

- Arlen.

Trans

10/12/2007 4:48:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 9:21 am, Arlen Christian Mart Cuss <cel...@sairyx.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 00:58 +0900, Trans wrote:
> > English 0.1
>
> >http://english.rub...
>
> I don't mean to sound abrupt, but why are there so many spelling/grammar
> errors on the main page? Missing 'for' in the first sentence, `a few',
> `fantastic', `general', `handle'.. sorry. It just seems ironic for a gem
> named english.

B/c I'm a "creative speller" ;) and this is version 0.1. Thanks for
mentioning it though, I'll review and run a spell checker over it when
I get a chance.

T.

ara.t.howard

10/12/2007 5:06:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Alex Young wrote:

> I hate to point this out, but isn't having "require 'english'" and
> "require 'English'" both being valid and completely different going
> to be rather confusing?

not only that but, on osx for one, case in-sensitive file names means
that, regardless of whether you require 'english' or 'English', the
first one of either type in your loadpath will be loaded:

cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r english -e 42
42

cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r English -e 42
42

so i think that users of osx will not even be able to load that via
gems since the built-in English will be picked up first.

regards.

a @ http://codeforp...
--
we can deny everything, except that we have the possibility of being
better. simply reflect on that.
h.h. the 14th dalai lama

Daniel Berger

10/12/2007 5:32:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 11:06 am, "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.how...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Alex Young wrote:
>
> > I hate to point this out, but isn't having "require 'english'" and
> > "require 'English'" both being valid and completely different going
> > to be rather confusing?
>
> not only that but, on osx for one, case in-sensitive file names means
> that, regardless of whether you require 'english' or 'English', the
> first one of either type in your loadpath will be loaded:
>
> cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r english -e 42
> 42
>
> cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r English -e 42
> 42
>
> so i think that users of osx will not even be able to load that via
> gems since the built-in English will be picked up first.

Bad, bad, BAD!!!

Keep the project name, but rename the library. Personally, I think a
toplevel namespace of "Language" is in order. Then end users could
"require 'language/english'".

Regards,

Dan

Trans

10/12/2007 6:36:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 10:32 am, Daniel Berger <djber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 11:06 am, "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.how...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Alex Young wrote:
>
> > > I hate to point this out, but isn't having "require 'english'" and
> > > "require 'English'" both being valid and completely different going
> > > to be rather confusing?
>
> > not only that but, on osx for one, case in-sensitive file names means
> > that, regardless of whether you require 'english' or 'English', the
> > first one of either type in your loadpath will be loaded:
>
> > cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r english -e 42
> > 42
>
> > cfp:~ > ruby -I . -r English -e 42
> > 42
>
> > so i think that users of osx will not even be able to load that via
> > gems since the built-in English will be picked up first.
>
> Bad, bad, BAD!!!

Well, it's no quite that bad. As I said there is no "require
'english'", so it should still work fine.

> Keep the project name, but rename the library. Personally, I think a
> toplevel namespace of "Language" is in order. Then end users could
> "require 'language/english'".

That's a reasonable idea ... though I have no plans to learn Japanese
at this time ;)

T.

Phrogz

10/12/2007 6:50:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 10:47 am, Trans <transf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 9:21 am, Arlen Christian Mart Cuss <cel...@sairyx.org> wrote:
> > I don't mean to sound abrupt, but why are there so many spelling/grammar
> > errors on the main page? Missing 'for' in the first sentence, `a few',
> > `fantastic', `general', `handle'.. sorry. It just seems ironic for a gem
> > named english.
>
> B/c I'm a "creative speller" ;) and this is version 0.1. Thanks for
> mentioning it though, I'll review and run a spell checker over it when
> I get a chance.

Make sure you check the code samples, too:
reqiure 'english/inflect' # require

Phrogz

10/12/2007 6:53:00 PM

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On Oct 12, 9:58 am, Trans <transf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> English 0.1
>
> http://english.rub...
>
> The initial release of English has hit the streets. English is a
> Facets spin-off project --containing all the libraries related to
> working with the English language and language text in general. Among
> these are libraries for plural/singular noun inflection, word
> filtering, obfuscation, numerals as words, roman numerals, and so on.

Perhaps I'm being too picky, but when someone adds a similar (or port)
library for Spanish, and Russian, and French (and so on), wouldn't it
be nice to have them all in a similar namespace?

Language::English, perhaps?