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Getting started with Ruby (noob confusion

nobody

9/22/2007 9:16:00 PM



Hi everyone!

As the title suggests, I'm new to Ruby (and programming in general), and am feeling a bit
overwhelmed by the complexities. (However, I must say that Ruby is one of the few languages
I'd dare to describe as "easy to swallow".) At the moment, I'm not sure what to do first. I've
downloaded the latest stable build, and am really anxious to make something happen. My
momentary interest lies primarily in developing simple Windows GUI apps, and I've found that
I'll require some external tools for said tasks. My last attempt at coding was with the VB
Express kit (which I eventually removed, due to it's bloated feel), so Ruby's requirement of
external software was a surprise (hey, like I said, I'm new to this, so don't come down on me
*too* hard).

Anyhow, after realizing this, I went on a treasure hunt of sorts, for a GUI toolkit. I've
selected foxGUIb for the job. According to the site, it requires FXRuby, so I guess my first
question is, is FXRuby included in the current stable Ruby distro, or do I need to download
it? I did a search, and found several "fxruby" type files on my comp with the "gem" extension.
(BTW... what the heck are "gems? LOL) I have a bunch of other questions as well (unrelated to
FXRuby), but I'll get into those later. Right now, I just need an itemized list of EVERYTHING
I'll need to get going.

A few of the projects I have in mind:

A snazzy, skinable web browser with ftp capabilities built-in (among other things)
An instant messenger
Newsreader
Mail client

As you can see, just very basic stuff.

My complaint with most coding tutorials out there, is their focus on elaborate methods that
most regular people will never require. I don't need to build a chemist's widget for solving
complex mathematical equations... just nifty little web apps with some cool features.

If anybody can help me through my journey of Ruby discovery, it would be much appreciated. : )

PS Something I've been wondering for a while; need I be proficient in math to develop the type
of apps I have in mind? I'm just horrible with numbers. I feel like this particular weakness
may hamper my dreams of programming.


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1 Answer

Kerryn Offord

5/1/2011 6:47:00 AM

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On 5/1/2011 6:02 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> Kerryn Offord<kao16@uclive.ac.nz> wrote:
>> On 5/1/2011 12:55 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> Kerryn Offord<kao16@uclive.ac.nz> wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2011 9:34 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> Catawumpus<kimmerian@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>>> ADR<aretzios@yahoo.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does Israel differ from apartheid South Africa? There black
>>>>>>> populations were incorporated by conquest, they were given no
>>>>>>> political rights and limited autonomy in Batustans, they lived in
>>>>>>> slums surrounded (and occassionally raided) by security forces. Yes,
>>>>>>> there was "democracy" as long as one was an Afrikaner white.
>>>>>>> It seems to me that describes Israel today perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to me you like repeating the same falsehood over and
>>>>>> over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a lying apologist.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel is a democracy for Arab citizens and
>>>>>> Jewish ones, both.
>>>>>
>>>>> But not for Palestinians under Israeli rule.
>>>>
>>>> What Palestinians under Israeli rule?
>>>
>>> West Bank.
>>
>> My appologies..Not the Camp David accords.. The Oslo accords..
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorates_of_the_Palestinian_National...
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os...
>
> And there are many UN resolutions criticizing Israel for refusing to
> abide by those accords.
>
> And this map shows that fact clearly.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorates_of_the_Palestinian_National...
>


Yes, well.. There are two sides to the Oslo accords.

I'm sure when the Palestinians start to abide by them, so will Israel...