Mark Borgerson
1/22/2011 1:04:00 AM
In article <marek1965-94A849.10581921012011@news.giganews.com>,
marek1965@comcast.net says...
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> In article
> <15e8d87f-655b-41f1-a9f2-3cce4b4618c5@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
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> Let's put this into perspective: We have massive illegal immigration
> with millions of illiterates swamping into the country and welcomed by
> elements of the left and right alike.
How are these illiterates 'swamping into the country'? IIRC, most of
the hispanic immigrants are coming in via desert areas. ;-)
"millions of illiterates" is probably not the proper term either, since
Mexico, the source of a majority of hispanic immigrants, has a 91%
literacy rate. I suspect that the literacy rate amongst those strongly
enough motivated to cross the border illegally is even higher than
91%.
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> So 18 kids? Whose complaining? Until we declare that we need to be
> more conscientious about population growth and put some teeth in the
> policy, good for them!
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> In addition, Golden One didn't indicate whether the family had a lot of
> resources to raise these children or send them to school, but they
> probably were not beneficiaries of the welfare system or criminals. So
> again, maybe it wasn't so bad after all!
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> I have friends who are social workers and they have told me stories
> about women bouncing from one abusive relationship to another and
> usually squeezing out a kid for each one. This isn't meant to excuse
> abusive relationships but rather put into perspective that shacking up
> or getting divorced isn't necessarily a guaranteed solution. Perhaps
> some therapy would have been appropriate. In addition, spousal abuse
> was common back then for BOTH genders. VAWA has not addressed spousal
> abuse by women against men and probably often looks the other way when
> it's committed against children.
>
Aha. More anecdotal evidence from unspecified friends. Can't you do
better than that?
> Theoretically, professional families are supposed to have well educated
> yuppies who get married in their late 20's and early 30's and in those
> cases, they often have just 1 kid or even none due to fertility issues.
> So much for "planning".
I don't think fertility issues are an issue until the late 30's
(that's from first-hand experience.).
Mark Borgerson