Asp Forum - Re: Relationship operator for classes

Arlen Cuss

8/16/2007 11:05:00 AM

> case v.class
> when Symbol
> ...
> when Hash
> ...
> else
> ...
> end

So on second thoughts, try just removing the ".class" from that code and
try again. :)

- Arlen

13 Answers

Mo

2/16/2011 10:31:00 AM

On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> > . After Norman
> > Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
> > scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>
> Actually it was the reverse.

"Hi, I'm Norman Finkelstein. I read Alan Dershowitz's book twice, I
carefully checked the sources, and I believe the book does raise
serious questions about his academic integrity, his intellectual
honesty and raises serious questions about whether he's even qualified
to teach at Harvard University." From this moment on, Dershowitz is
cringing. He realizes he's been caught out by Finkelstein, who clearly
has a superior intellect and is a far superior debater.

Following this public shaming and humiliation, Dershowitz would wreak
what seemed to be a terrible vengeance, when he led a campaign of
defamation and calumny against Finkelstein, and prevented him from
gaining tenure at De Paul University in Chicago.

But Finkelstein has only grown in stature both as a public speaker and
as a scholar; in stark contrast, Dershowitz is reviled as a proven
fraud, who will go down in history for plagiarizing a hoax document
and for his mad advocacy of torture---specifically the insertion of a
needle under a captive's fingernails.

John Simms

2/16/2011 12:24:00 PM

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:05:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:

> On Feb 16, 10:27?pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
>>> . After Norman
>>> Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
>>> scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>>
>> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> No, it was not. Dershowitz is utterly humiliated in this exchange. He
> is confronted with incontrovertible evidence of his plagiarism. And
> it's plagiarism of a hoax, at that! But here, see for yourself...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...

So how come Finkelstein went down afterwards?. The truth is Finkelstein was
shown to have lied again.

Zev

2/16/2011 12:56:00 PM

"Mo" <morrisseybreen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b25612a5-dd98-4e40-99b2-
c5e4a5ef1dec@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
>> > . After Norman
>> > Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
>> > scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>>
>> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> "Hi, I'm Norman Finkelstein. I read Alan Dershowitz's book twice, I
> carefully checked the sources, and I believe the book does raise
> serious questions about his academic integrity, his intellectual
> honesty and raises serious questions about whether he's even qualified
> to teach at Harvard University." From this moment on, Dershowitz is
> cringing. He realizes he's been caught out by Finkelstein, who clearly
> has a superior intellect and is a far superior debater.

Finkelstein's claims appear to be mostly correct,
but he's just looking for anything he can find
to embarrass Dershowitz.
Imagine reading a book several times, saying to oneself each time,
"maybe this is wrong", "maybe that's a mistake".
And in the end, all he comes up with is cheap nitpicking.

Mo

2/16/2011 8:22:00 PM

On Feb 17, 1:24 am, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:05:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> >>> . After Norman
> >>> Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
> >>> scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>
> >> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> > No, it was not. Dershowitz is utterly humiliated in this exchange. He
> > is confronted with incontrovertible evidence of his plagiarism. And
> > it's plagiarism of a hoax, at that! But here, see for yourself...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...
>
> So how come Finkelstein went down afterwards?.

He didn't "go down". Dershowitz organized and led a mad campaign of
letter-writing, telephone harassment and non-stop verbal intimidation.
In every way, it was identical to the way National Socialist zealots
hounded out "Jews and Bolshevists and socialists" from their
university positions in 1930s Germany. In the end, De Paul University
had to cave in to the pressure.

>
> The truth is Finkelstein was shown to have lied again.

You haven't watched that clip, have you? You haven't read any of the
details of this infamous campaign. You don't know what you're talking
about.

Mo

2/16/2011 8:42:00 PM

On Feb 17, 1:55 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b25612a5-dd98-4e40-99b2-
> c5e4a5ef1...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> >> > . After Norman
> >> > Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
> >> > scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>
> >> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> > "Hi, I'm Norman Finkelstein. I read Alan Dershowitz's book twice, I
> > carefully checked the sources, and I believe the book does raise
> > serious questions about his academic integrity, his intellectual
> > honesty and raises serious questions about whether he's even qualified
> > to teach at Harvard University." From this moment on, Dershowitz is
> > cringing. He realizes he's been caught out by Finkelstein, who clearly
> > has a superior intellect and is a far superior debater.
>
> Finkelstein's claims appear to be mostly correct,

They are completely correct, Zev. Finkelstein is an exact and
meticulous scholar. As he quipped, he has read Dershowitz's book more
than Dershowitz has.

>
> but he's just looking for anything he can find
> to embarrass Dershowitz.

No, Dershowitz has maintained an hysterical campaign of straight-out
lies and smear. He has indulged in the most absurd abuse---he has even
invented a fantastical new term to smear Dershowitz---he calls him a
"Holocaust minimizer." He even stooped to abusing Dershowitz's mother,
who was a survivor from the Warsaw Ghetto and Majanek, as a kapo.
Which is a term just as absurd and irrational as his smear that
Dershowitz is anti-Semitic.

You can watch Finkelstein talking about Dershowitz's smear on his dead
mother HERE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...

>
> Imagine reading a book several times, saying to oneself each time,
> "maybe this is wrong",

Finkelstein is a scholar, and he dissected a fraud. He did not fuss
over spelling or grammar mistakes, or Dershowitz's writing style. He
exposed his massive fraud and his plagiarism---of a hoax!---
exhaustively.

>
> "maybe that's a mistake".

> And in the end, all he comes up with is cheap nitpicking.

In the same way that dissecting the fraud perpetrated by the Tsar's
secret police was "cheap nitpicking". You know, the Protocols of Zion
hoax. Were the scholars that exposed that egregious lie "cheap
nitpickers"?

Mo

2/16/2011 8:48:00 PM

On Feb 17, 9:41 am, Mo <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 17, 1:55 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > news:b25612a5-dd98-4e40-99b2-
> > c5e4a5ef1...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> > >> > . After Norman
> > >> > Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
> > >> > scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>
> > >> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> > > "Hi, I'm Norman Finkelstein. I read Alan Dershowitz's book twice, I
> > > carefully checked the sources, and I believe the book does raise
> > > serious questions about his academic integrity, his intellectual
> > > honesty and raises serious questions about whether he's even qualified
> > > to teach at Harvard University." From this moment on, Dershowitz is
> > > cringing. He realizes he's been caught out by Finkelstein, who clearly
> > > has a superior intellect and is a far superior debater.
>
> > Finkelstein's claims appear to be mostly correct,
>
> They are completely correct, Zev. Finkelstein is an exact and
> meticulous scholar. As he quipped, he has read Dershowitz's book more
> than Dershowitz has.
>
>
>
> > but he's just looking for anything he can find
> > to embarrass Dershowitz.
>
> No, Dershowitz has maintained an hysterical campaign of straight-out
> lies and smear. He has indulged in the most absurd abuse---he has even
> invented a fantastical new term to smear Dershowitz---he calls him a
> "Holocaust minimizer." He even stooped to abusing Dershowitz's mother,
> who was a survivor from the Warsaw Ghetto and Majanek,

Sorry! Majdanek.

Zev

2/16/2011 9:52:00 PM

"Mo" <morrisseybreen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4994551-53e0-423d-85e8-
ab460b10294b@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 17, 1:55 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:b25612a5-dd98-4e40-99b2-
>> c5e4a5ef1...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:

>> >> > . After Norman
>> >> > Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
>> >> > scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>>
>> >> Actually it was the reverse.
>>
>> > "Hi, I'm Norman Finkelstein. I read Alan Dershowitz's book twice, I
>> > carefully checked the sources, and I believe the book does raise
>> > serious questions about his academic integrity, his intellectual
>> > honesty and raises serious questions about whether he's even qualified
>> > to teach at Harvard University." From this moment on, Dershowitz is
>> > cringing. He realizes he's been caught out by Finkelstein, who clearly
>> > has a superior intellect and is a far superior debater.
>>
>> Finkelstein's claims appear to be mostly correct,
>
> They are completely correct, Zev. Finkelstein is an exact and
> meticulous scholar. As he quipped, he has read Dershowitz's book more
> than Dershowitz has.
>
>>
>> but he's just looking for anything he can find
>> to embarrass Dershowitz.
>
> No, Dershowitz has maintained an hysterical campaign of straight-out
> lies and smear. He has indulged in the most absurd abuse---he has even
> invented a fantastical new term to smear Dershowitz---he calls him a
> "Holocaust minimizer." He even stooped to abusing Dershowitz's mother,
> who was a survivor from the Warsaw Ghetto and Majanek, as a kapo.
> Which is a term just as absurd and irrational as his smear that
> Dershowitz is anti-Semitic.
>
> You can watch Finkelstein talking about Dershowitz's smear on his dead
> mother HERE...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...
>
>>
>> Imagine reading a book several times, saying to oneself each time,
>> "maybe this is wrong",
>
> Finkelstein is a scholar, and he dissected a fraud. He did not fuss
> over spelling or grammar mistakes, or Dershowitz's writing style. He
> exposed his massive fraud and his plagiarism---of a hoax!---
> exhaustively.
>
>>
>> "maybe that's a mistake".
>
>> And in the end, all he comes up with is cheap nitpicking.
>
> In the same way that dissecting the fraud perpetrated by the Tsar's
> secret police was "cheap nitpicking". You know, the Protocols of Zion
> hoax. Were the scholars that exposed that egregious lie "cheap
> nitpickers"?

I don't know who they were and what methods they used,
although I understand the book appears to be a translation,
with appropriate modifications, of a French book written
around 1870 by political opponents of Napoleon III.

But where's Dershowitz's fraud, where's his plagiarism?
Did he lie when he wrote "2 - 3 thousand",
instead of "200 -300 thousand"?
Doesn't make sense, and he explains why.

Is it plagiarism to use someone else's list of quotes
without crediting the author of that list?
The quotes themselves aren't, and all he did was
save himself the time he would have needed to read
Mark Twain's book to compile them himself.

Finkelstein is right, but he strikes me
as a little guy who tackles a big guy.
If he wins, he wins big, and even if he loses,
he becomes someone who has tackled a big guy.
Finkelstein outreaches himself, but it doesn't matter
to people who disagree with Dershowitz
but can't argue for themselves.
Finkelstein has become, for them, the man who stepped
into the ring with Dershowitz, and survived,
even if he couldn't get more than a few jabs in, here and there.

John Simms

2/17/2011 11:15:00 AM

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:21:41 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:

> On Feb 17, 1:24?am, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:05:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
>>> On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
>>>>> . After Norman
>>>>> Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
>>>>> scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>>
>>>> Actually it was the reverse.
>>
>>> No, it was not. Dershowitz is utterly humiliated in this exchange. He
>>> is confronted with incontrovertible evidence of his plagiarism. And
>>> it's plagiarism of a hoax, at that! But here, see for yourself...
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...
>>
>> So how come Finkelstein went down afterwards?.
>
> He didn't "go down". Dershowitz organized and led a mad campaign of
> letter-writing, telephone harassment and non-stop verbal intimidation.
> In every way, it was identical to the way National Socialist zealots
> hounded out "Jews and Bolshevists and socialists" from their
> university positions in 1930s Germany. In the end, De Paul University
> had to cave in to the pressure.

What alternative did De Paul University have after it became apparent that
Finkelstein lied?

>
>>
>> The truth is Finkelstein was shown to have lied again.
>
> You haven't watched that clip, have you? You haven't read any of the
> details of this infamous campaign. You don't know what you're talking
> about.

Come again

mirjam

2/17/2011 11:50:00 AM

Mo >
> Finkelstein is a scholar, and he dissected a fraud. He did not fuss
> over spelling or grammar mistakes, or Dershowitz's writing style. He
> exposed his massive fraud and his plagiarism---of a hoax!---
> exhaustively.
Finkelstein is no a scholar , he wants to be famous,
He has not overcome his childhood as a son of survivors, who probably
never spoke at home about their losses,
mirjam

Mo

2/17/2011 10:19:00 PM

On Feb 18, 12:15 am, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:21:41 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 1:24 am, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:05:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> >>> On Feb 16, 10:27 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:10:46 -0800 (PST), Mo wrote:
> >>>>> . After Norman
> >>>>> Finkelstein humiliated him in public by exposing his fraudulent
> >>>>> scholarship and his massive plagiarism, Dershowitz
>
> >>>> Actually it was the reverse.
>
> >>> No, it was not. Dershowitz is utterly humiliated in this exchange. He
> >>> is confronted with incontrovertible evidence of his plagiarism. And
> >>> it's plagiarism of a hoax, at that! But here, see for yourself...
>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...
>
> >> So how come Finkelstein went down afterwards?.
>
> > He didn't "go down". Dershowitz organized and led a mad campaign of
> > letter-writing, telephone harassment and non-stop verbal intimidation.
> > In every way, it was identical to the way National Socialist zealots
> > hounded out "Jews and Bolshevists and socialists" from their
> > university positions in 1930s Germany. In the end, De Paul University
> > had to cave in to the pressure.
>
> What alternative did De Paul University have after it became apparent that
> Finkelstein lied?

Oh, really? Could you document one lie Finkelstein has told or
written?

>
>
>
> >> The truth is Finkelstein was shown to have lied again.
>
> > You haven't watched that clip, have you? You haven't read any of the
> > details of this infamous campaign. You don't know what you're talking
> > about.
>
> Come again

How can we put this simply and diplomatically? Okay... you need to do
some sustained and critical reading. Clearly, you have not done so, at
least on this topic. Therefore you do not, at the moment, know
anything. I'm sure you can rectify that, if you are a serious person.

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