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Quick Float question

Cliff Rowley

8/11/2007 1:11:00 AM

I'm doing some math with Ruby and I'd really like to know why:

irb(main):002:0> 10.0 / 3.0
=> 3.33333333333333

but

irb(main):003:0> (10.0 / 3.0) == 3.33333333333333

is

=> false

Thanks :-)

Cliff
9 Answers

Hank Gong

8/11/2007 1:21:00 AM

0

This is because the 3.33333333333333 is not the exact value you got
from 10.0/3.0. Ruby store more information you can't not see.
So if you want to compare the float, you can write it as
(10.0/3.0 - 3.3333333333).abs <= 0.0001

On Aug 11, 10:10 am, Cliff Rowley <cliffrow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm doing some math with Ruby and I'd really like to know why:
>
> irb(main):002:0> 10.0 / 3.0
> => 3.33333333333333
>
> but
>
> irb(main):003:0> (10.0 / 3.0) == 3.33333333333333
>
> is
>
> => false
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> Cliff

Cliff Rowley

8/11/2007 1:38:00 AM

0

Hank Gong wrote:
> This is because the 3.33333333333333 is not the exact value you got
> from 10.0/3.0. Ruby store more information you can't not see.
> So if you want to compare the float, you can write it as
> (10.0/3.0 - 3.3333333333).abs <= 0.0001
>
This is what I thought. Thanks for clarifying that. I need it
primarily for unit testing, I'll try this technique and see how I go.

Thanks again

Cliff

Gregory Brown

8/11/2007 1:46:00 AM

0

On 8/10/07, Cliff Rowley <cliffrowley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hank Gong wrote:
> > This is because the 3.33333333333333 is not the exact value you got
> > from 10.0/3.0. Ruby store more information you can't not see.
> > So if you want to compare the float, you can write it as
> > (10.0/3.0 - 3.3333333333).abs <= 0.0001
> >
> This is what I thought. Thanks for clarifying that. I need it
> primarily for unit testing, I'll try this technique and see how I go.

assert_in_delta 3.3333333333, 10.0/3.0, 0.0001

-greg

Cliff Rowley

8/11/2007 3:38:00 AM

0

Gregory Brown wrote:
> assert_in_delta 3.3333333333, 10.0/3.0, 0.0001
>
> -greg
>
Perfect, thankyou :-)

Cliff

Daryl

2/14/2014 6:55:00 AM

0

On 2/13/2014 11:42 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:18:45 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>> news:eocrf95oqvsj2utgkp4rmtl4dnua80eism@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:00:02 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:jc9rf912eukn3tv8bc65sm4bef2ci97uk0@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:22:31 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hv1rf9pju8fvraf013oc0eoschrppttlj4@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:37:47 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eprqf9la349e3hfpuef5pmvn0rtqceeplf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:21:47 -0600, "Eddie Haskell"
>>>>>>>>> <ggrgrg@ppng.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Daryl" <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ldhjsn$skh$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:54 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:33:06 -0700, Daryl
>>>>>>>>>>>> <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 8:07 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:00:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 7:17 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:05:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 4:59 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:10:09 PM UTC-5, deep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The person who wanted to retire and get medical care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> younger worker in need of a job can get one. That's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a win-win. Funny how you never get the humanism stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because a person wants to retire doesn't mean they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person should have the option to retire when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable for them to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's exactly what they will be doing .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The leftists are rigging the market. I could retire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the leftists would arrange to give me $15 million.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People should have the option of retiring when *THEY* have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial future. If someone else is involuntarily having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them, that's wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republicans, CBO stands for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, people are not retiring early because they have planned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their future. They're retiring early because the government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confiscating money from some people in order to give it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hedonists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who want to "pursue their happiness" at the expense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's bad and wrong. It is bad and wrong for the government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see you've now conceded that the CBO has confirmed that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * GDP will fall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * tax revenues will be lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all because of ACA. You have acknowledged all of that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, *NOT* bullshit, mackerel cunt. CBO statements of fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a single job will be lost and many will be created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be lost. CBO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We wrote in the report: "The reduction in CBO's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projections
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours worked represents a decline in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5 million in 2024 . The decline in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employment stemming from the ACA will consist of *some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being employed at all* and other people working fewer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbo.gov/publica...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal: 2.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent jobs lost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact still remains that those jobs were going to convert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to part time long before the ACA was even drafted. Using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis for your hatred for ACA and Obama only shows that you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to lie your ass off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My source? I was working for Walmart when it was announced that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were changing their full time to part time from 60/40 to 40/60
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the workers shifted to part time Obamacare has made lemonade
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> of lemons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> prior to the ACA, many walmart married couples worked for Walmart.
>>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>>> worked to pay for their Medical while the other worked for
>>>>>>>>>>> paycheck.
>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>> this is for one of the crappiest healthcare programs on the face
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> earth. The ACA was a huge improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a goddamn lie. Walmart health insurance is far superior to
>>>>>>>>>> OBAMAcare.
>>>>>>>>>> Further, why don't you want to call it OBAMA-fucking-care now? Huh?
>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>> Pathetic cretins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Imagine, folks. He's lying through his fucking teeth in order for
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> have to pay more for less insurance, and why? Because shilling for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> democrat party is more important to him than the country or human
>>>>>>>>>> lives.
>>>>>>>>>> That's sick, despicable and corrupt as fuck, but ALL democrats are
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> that. Demonic cultists that need to be rounded up and charged with
>>>>>>>>>> crimes
>>>>>>>>>> against humanity. Open and shut case. Start building the gallows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than
>>>>>>>>>> Obamacare"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "New Obamacare health insurance enrollees may feel a pang of envy
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> eye the coverage plans offered by Walmart to its employees."
>>>>>>>>>> "For many years, the giant discount retailer has been the target of
>>>>>>>>>> unions
>>>>>>>>>> and liberal activists who have harshly criticized the company's
>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>> plans, calling them "notorious for failing to provide health
>>>>>>>>>> benefits"
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> "substandard.""
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Total fucking lie of course. Everything democrat is a fucking LIE.
>>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING. It's the very foundation of the party.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "But a Washington Examiner comparison of the two health insurance
>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>> found that Walmart's plan is more affordable and provides
>>>>>>>>>> significantly
>>>>>>>>>> better access to high-quality medical care than Obamacare."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-walmart-health-plan-is-cheaper-offers-more-coverage-than-obamacare/artic...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For a monthly premium as low as roughly $40, an individual who is a
>>>>>>>>> Walmart HRA plan enrollee can obtain full-service coverage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Link..cite..Anything?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They did put most of their employees on the exchange, they dropped
>>>>>>>>> most of their employees and do not offer it to new employees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And thus Obamacare, by your own admission, tends to wipe out employer
>>>>>>>> provided healthcare.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously you are confused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All employer provided insurance is now ACA compliant and those
>>>>>>> offered it are not eligible for Obamacare and subsidies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you just told us that Wal-Mart has dropped insurance for most of
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> employees and don't offer it at all for new employees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So a lot of Wal-Mart employees no longer have it, and new employees
>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>> even offered it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obamacare.....by your own admission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope corporate greed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. They provided insurance when there was no legal obligation to do
>>>> so,
>>>> and did so at a low cost and with better coverage than that demanded by
>>>> Obama.
>>>>
>>>> However, the federal government decided they would control these matters,
>>>> and Wal-Mart is simply respecting their desire to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Now you want to complain because Obamacare has cost all those people their
>>>> coverage in favor of the mess mandated by Obamacare, and blame them for
>>>> the
>>>> actions of Obama and the Democrats in ramming Obamacare down our throats.
>>>>
>>>> Wal-Mart's reaction is nothing more or less than a direct consequence of
>>>> Obamacare.
>>>>
>>>> However, you don't blame Obama for those consequences, so you're lost
>>>> trying
>>>> to find someone to blame instead.
>>>
>>> Walmart is responsible for it's own behavior
>>
>> Certainly, but the reasons they behaved as they did, can certainly be laid
>> on the door step of Obamacare.
>>
>> <snip attempts to divert attention and change the subject>
>
> Oh?
>
> Having the temerity to ask YOU for a cite for your palpable nonsense
> is to be redefined as "changing the subject is it?
>
> We await a shred of evidence for these bizarre claims of yours about
> Walmarts philanthropy in behalf of it's long suffering work force.
>
>

There is just one problem with his reasoning. The Walmart Medical
Insurance didn't meet the minimum requirements.

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2/14/2014 7:54:00 AM

0

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:40:50 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <ghqm@hjdepo.com>
wrote:

>
>"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryThing@Blackhole.nebulx.com> wrote in
>message news:fuaLu.47285$n31.34291@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 2/13/2014 3:52 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Guy Fawkes" <No_email_for_you@wahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XnsA2D388C6123E7Wereofftoseethewizrd@78.46.70.116...
>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <ghqm@hjdepo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:UD7Lu.50980$B95.39073@fx01.iad:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryThing@Blackhole.nebulx.com> wrote in
>>>>> message news:ef7Lu.290711$sp1.212063@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>>> On 2/13/2014 12:17 PM, Guy Fawkes wrote:
>>>>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <ggrgrg@ppng.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:u07Lu.498420$2s6.336984@fx16.iad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:osjof91ta8qnn484vam2qmh1q37v76q437@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:33:06 -0700, Daryl
>>>>>>>>> <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 8:07 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:00:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 7:17 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:05:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 4:59 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:10:09 PM UTC-5, deep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The person who wanted to retire and get medical care can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the younger worker in need of a job can get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what is known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a win-win. Funny how you never get the humanism stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because a person wants to retire doesn't mean they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person should have the option to retire when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially viable for them to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's exactly what they will be doing .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The leftists are rigging the market. I could retire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the leftists would arrange to give me $15 million.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People should have the option of retiring when *THEY* have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secured their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial future. If someone else is involuntarily having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them, that's wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republicans, CBO stands for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, people are not retiring early because they have planned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their future. They're retiring early because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is confiscating money from some people in order to give it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hedonists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who want to "pursue their happiness" at the expense of someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's bad and wrong. It is bad and wrong for the government
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rig the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see you've now conceded that the CBO has confirmed that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated * GDP will fall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * tax revenues will be lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all because of ACA. You have acknowledged all of that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, *NOT* bullshit, mackerel cunt. CBO statements of fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a single job will be lost and many will be created.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be lost. CBO
>>>>>>>>>>> said so:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We wrote in the report: "The reduction in CBO's
>>>>>>>>>>> projections
>>>>>>>>>>> of hours worked represents a decline in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>> full-time- equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017,
>>>>>>>>>>> rising to about 2.5 million in 2024 . The decline in
>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent employment stemming from the ACA will
>>>>>>>>>>> consist of *some people not being employed at all* and
>>>>>>>>>>> other people working fewer hours
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbo.gov/publica...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal: 2.5 million
>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent jobs lost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fact still remains that those jobs were going to convert from
>>>>>>>>>> full time to part time long before the ACA was even drafted.
>>>>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>>>>> this as a basis for your hatred for ACA and Obama only shows that
>>>>>>>>>> you are willing to lie your ass off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My source? I was working for Walmart when it was announced that
>>>>>>>>>> they were changing their full time to part time from 60/40 to
>>>>>>>>>> 40/60
>>>>>>>>>> in 2007.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the workers shifted to part time Obamacare has made lemonade
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> of lemons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's taken the equivalent of 2.5 million tax payers out of the
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And turns them into tax consumers...... People that are using-up the
>>>>>> limited resources of the Nation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. They're trying to bankrupt the country. It's the only
>>>>> explanation to their schemes and intransigence when it comes to cutting
>>>>> spending. We see it time and again. Democrats clam to believe in PAYGO
>>>>> yet when republicans asked them to pay for extending unemployment
>>>>> benefits recently the democrats offered the preposterous compromise of
>>>>> allowing employers to short change their employees pensions. In a sane
>>>>> world THAT would be the story and democrats would be mud, but the
>>>>> corrupt MSM doesn't even mention it so the democrats can promote their
>>>>> republicans don't care about people out of work narrative. They don't
>>>>> want it to be paid for because that wouldn't further their goal of
>>>>> demonizing republicans and bankrupting the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually I am coming to beleive that the sole purpose is to weaken the
>>>> United States so that other world powers may pursue thier agendas
>>>> without
>>>> us being able to interfere.
>>>>
>>>> I won't name names, I will just recall who some of the Clinton's were
>>>> supposedly involved with and the kind of antiAmerican scum Obama
>>>> consorts
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> It really is the only answer that makes sense. Who wants to rule over a
>>>> bunch of leechs and indolent, stoned whiners? No one with noble
>>>> ambitions.
>>>>
>>>> Which means that the Democrats and Progressives are working as agents of
>>>> enemy powers to the detriment of the American civil population,
>>>> civilization and the future.
>>>>
>>>> Which makes them what? A clear and present danger. And what does Obama
>>>> do
>>>> to "enemies of the US" even when they are citizens?
>>>>
>>>> Let us apply the standard equally.
>>>
>>> Time for a drone strike.
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>> DNC headquarters? The Den of thieves.
>
>For starters.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>

Drone strike?

What...no rope?


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2/14/2014 7:57:00 AM

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:22:31 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>news:hv1rf9pju8fvraf013oc0eoschrppttlj4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:37:47 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>news:eprqf9la349e3hfpuef5pmvn0rtqceeplf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:21:47 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <ggrgrg@ppng.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Daryl" <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ldhjsn$skh$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:54 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:33:06 -0700, Daryl
>>>>>>> <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 8:07 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:00:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 7:17 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:05:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 4:59 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:10:09 PM UTC-5, deep wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The person who wanted to retire and get medical care can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> younger worker in need of a job can get one. That's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a win-win. Funny how you never get the humanism stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because a person wants to retire doesn't mean they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person should have the option to retire when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable for them to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's exactly what they will be doing .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The leftists are rigging the market. I could retire right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the leftists would arrange to give me $15 million.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People should have the option of retiring when *THEY* have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> secured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial future. If someone else is involuntarily having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them, that's wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republicans, CBO stands for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, people are not retiring early because they have planned well
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> their future. They're retiring early because the government is
>>>>>>>>>>> confiscating money from some people in order to give it to the
>>>>>>>>>>> hedonists
>>>>>>>>>>> who want to "pursue their happiness" at the expense of someone
>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's bad and wrong. It is bad and wrong for the government to
>>>>>>>>>>> rig
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I see you've now conceded that the CBO has confirmed that:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be eliminated
>>>>>>>>>>> * GDP will fall
>>>>>>>>>>> * tax revenues will be lower
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> all because of ACA. You have acknowledged all of that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, *NOT* bullshit, mackerel cunt. CBO statements of fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not a single job will be lost and many will be created.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be lost. CBO
>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>> so:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We wrote in the report: "The reduction in CBO's projections
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> hours worked represents a decline in the number of
>>>>>>>>> full-time-
>>>>>>>>> equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising to
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> 2.5 million in 2024 . The decline in full-time-equivalent
>>>>>>>>> employment stemming from the ACA will consist of *some
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> being employed at all* and other people working fewer hours
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbo.gov/publica...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal: 2.5 million
>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent jobs lost.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fact still remains that those jobs were going to convert from
>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>> time to part time long before the ACA was even drafted. Using this
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> basis for your hatred for ACA and Obama only shows that you are
>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>> to lie your ass off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My source? I was working for Walmart when it was announced that
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> were changing their full time to part time from 60/40 to 40/60 in
>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the workers shifted to part time Obamacare has made lemonade out
>>>>>>> of lemons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> prior to the ACA, many walmart married couples worked for Walmart.
>>>>>> One
>>>>>> worked to pay for their Medical while the other worked for paycheck.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> this is for one of the crappiest healthcare programs on the face of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> earth. The ACA was a huge improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a goddamn lie. Walmart health insurance is far superior to
>>>>>OBAMAcare.
>>>>>Further, why don't you want to call it OBAMA-fucking-care now? Huh? Huh?
>>>>>Pathetic cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>>Imagine, folks. He's lying through his fucking teeth in order for people
>>>>>to
>>>>>have to pay more for less insurance, and why? Because shilling for the
>>>>>democrat party is more important to him than the country or human lives.
>>>>>That's sick, despicable and corrupt as fuck, but ALL democrats are like
>>>>>that. Demonic cultists that need to be rounded up and charged with
>>>>>crimes
>>>>>against humanity. Open and shut case. Start building the gallows.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than
>>>>>Obamacare"
>>>>>
>>>>>"New Obamacare health insurance enrollees may feel a pang of envy when
>>>>>they
>>>>>eye the coverage plans offered by Walmart to its employees."
>>>>>"For many years, the giant discount retailer has been the target of
>>>>>unions
>>>>>and liberal activists who have harshly criticized the company's health
>>>>>care
>>>>>plans, calling them "notorious for failing to provide health benefits"
>>>>>and
>>>>>"substandard.""
>>>>>
>>>>>Total fucking lie of course. Everything democrat is a fucking LIE.
>>>>>EVERYTHING. It's the very foundation of the party.
>>>>>
>>>>>"But a Washington Examiner comparison of the two health insurance
>>>>>programs
>>>>>found that Walmart's plan is more affordable and provides significantly
>>>>>better access to high-quality medical care than Obamacare."
>>>>>
>>>>>http://washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-walmart-health-plan-is-cheaper-offers-more-coverage-than-obamacare/artic...
>>>>
>>>> For a monthly premium as low as roughly $40, an individual who is a
>>>> Walmart HRA plan enrollee can obtain full-service coverage
>>>>
>>>> Link..cite..Anything?
>>>>
>>>> They did put most of their employees on the exchange, they dropped
>>>> most of their employees and do not offer it to new employees.
>>>
>>>And thus Obamacare, by your own admission, tends to wipe out employer
>>>provided healthcare.
>>
>> Obviously you are confused.
>>
>> All employer provided insurance is now ACA compliant and those
>> offered it are not eligible for Obamacare and subsidies.
>
>But you just told us that Wal-Mart has dropped insurance for most of their
>employees and don't offer it at all for new employees.
>
>So a lot of Wal-Mart employees no longer have it, and new employees aren't
>even offered it.
>
>Why?
>
>Obamacare.....by your own admission.
>

Im curious as to the explanations the Left has for Congress not being
forced into ObamaCare themselves. Why did they vote themselves and
their staffs out of ObamaCare? If its such a Great Deal!!....why did
they handicap themselves and their staff with something worse?


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2/14/2014 9:31:00 AM

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:20:15 -0800, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
<Dev@null.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:22:31 -0500, "Scout"
><me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>news:hv1rf9pju8fvraf013oc0eoschrppttlj4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:37:47 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:eprqf9la349e3hfpuef5pmvn0rtqceeplf@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:21:47 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <ggrgrg@ppng.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Daryl" <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:ldhjsn$skh$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:54 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:33:06 -0700, Daryl
>>>>>>>> <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 8:07 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:00:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 7:17 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:05:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 4:59 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:10:09 PM UTC-5, deep wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The person who wanted to retire and get medical care can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> younger worker in need of a job can get one. That's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a win-win. Funny how you never get the humanism stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because a person wants to retire doesn't mean they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person should have the option to retire when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable for them to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's exactly what they will be doing .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The leftists are rigging the market. I could retire right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the leftists would arrange to give me $15 million.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People should have the option of retiring when *THEY* have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial future. If someone else is involuntarily having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them, that's wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republicans, CBO stands for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, people are not retiring early because they have planned well
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> their future. They're retiring early because the government is
>>>>>>>>>>>> confiscating money from some people in order to give it to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hedonists
>>>>>>>>>>>> who want to "pursue their happiness" at the expense of someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's bad and wrong. It is bad and wrong for the government to
>>>>>>>>>>>> rig
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see you've now conceded that the CBO has confirmed that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be eliminated
>>>>>>>>>>>> * GDP will fall
>>>>>>>>>>>> * tax revenues will be lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> all because of ACA. You have acknowledged all of that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, *NOT* bullshit, mackerel cunt. CBO statements of fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a single job will be lost and many will be created.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be lost. CBO
>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>> so:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We wrote in the report: "The reduction in CBO's projections
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> hours worked represents a decline in the number of
>>>>>>>>>> full-time-
>>>>>>>>>> equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising to
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> 2.5 million in 2024 . The decline in full-time-equivalent
>>>>>>>>>> employment stemming from the ACA will consist of *some
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> being employed at all* and other people working fewer hours
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbo.gov/publica...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal: 2.5 million
>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent jobs lost.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fact still remains that those jobs were going to convert from
>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>> time to part time long before the ACA was even drafted. Using this
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> basis for your hatred for ACA and Obama only shows that you are
>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>> to lie your ass off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My source? I was working for Walmart when it was announced that
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> were changing their full time to part time from 60/40 to 40/60 in
>>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the workers shifted to part time Obamacare has made lemonade out
>>>>>>>> of lemons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> prior to the ACA, many walmart married couples worked for Walmart.
>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>> worked to pay for their Medical while the other worked for paycheck.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> this is for one of the crappiest healthcare programs on the face of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> earth. The ACA was a huge improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's a goddamn lie. Walmart health insurance is far superior to
>>>>>>OBAMAcare.
>>>>>>Further, why don't you want to call it OBAMA-fucking-care now? Huh? Huh?
>>>>>>Pathetic cretins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Imagine, folks. He's lying through his fucking teeth in order for people
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>have to pay more for less insurance, and why? Because shilling for the
>>>>>>democrat party is more important to him than the country or human lives.
>>>>>>That's sick, despicable and corrupt as fuck, but ALL democrats are like
>>>>>>that. Demonic cultists that need to be rounded up and charged with
>>>>>>crimes
>>>>>>against humanity. Open and shut case. Start building the gallows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than
>>>>>>Obamacare"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"New Obamacare health insurance enrollees may feel a pang of envy when
>>>>>>they
>>>>>>eye the coverage plans offered by Walmart to its employees."
>>>>>>"For many years, the giant discount retailer has been the target of
>>>>>>unions
>>>>>>and liberal activists who have harshly criticized the company's health
>>>>>>care
>>>>>>plans, calling them "notorious for failing to provide health benefits"
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>"substandard.""
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Total fucking lie of course. Everything democrat is a fucking LIE.
>>>>>>EVERYTHING. It's the very foundation of the party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"But a Washington Examiner comparison of the two health insurance
>>>>>>programs
>>>>>>found that Walmart's plan is more affordable and provides significantly
>>>>>>better access to high-quality medical care than Obamacare."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-walmart-health-plan-is-cheaper-offers-more-coverage-than-obamacare/artic...
>>>>>
>>>>> For a monthly premium as low as roughly $40, an individual who is a
>>>>> Walmart HRA plan enrollee can obtain full-service coverage
>>>>>
>>>>> Link..cite..Anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> They did put most of their employees on the exchange, they dropped
>>>>> most of their employees and do not offer it to new employees.
>>>>
>>>>And thus Obamacare, by your own admission, tends to wipe out employer
>>>>provided healthcare.
>>>
>>> Obviously you are confused.
>>>
>>> All employer provided insurance is now ACA compliant and those
>>> offered it are not eligible for Obamacare and subsidies.
>>
>>But you just told us that Wal-Mart has dropped insurance for most of their
>>employees and don't offer it at all for new employees.
>>
>>So a lot of Wal-Mart employees no longer have it, and new employees aren't
>>even offered it.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>Obamacare.....by your own admission.
>
>Nope corporate greed.

Liberal flatulence.

Eddie Haskell

2/14/2014 8:01:00 PM

0


"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6rirf9d126oul00ckdfmh7o0umfb044rmq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:40:50 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <ghqm@hjdepo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryThing@Blackhole.nebulx.com> wrote in
>>message news:fuaLu.47285$n31.34291@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 2/13/2014 3:52 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>> "Guy Fawkes" <No_email_for_you@wahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:XnsA2D388C6123E7Wereofftoseethewizrd@78.46.70.116...
>>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <ghqm@hjdepo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:UD7Lu.50980$B95.39073@fx01.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryThing@Blackhole.nebulx.com> wrote
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> message news:ef7Lu.290711$sp1.212063@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>>>> On 2/13/2014 12:17 PM, Guy Fawkes wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <ggrgrg@ppng.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:u07Lu.498420$2s6.336984@fx16.iad:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" <Dev@null.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:osjof91ta8qnn484vam2qmh1q37v76q437@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:33:06 -0700, Daryl
>>>>>>>>>> <dhunt@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 8:07 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:00:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 7:17 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:05:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2014 4:59 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:10:09 PM UTC-5, deep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The person who wanted to retire and get medical care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the younger worker in need of a job can get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what is known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a win-win. Funny how you never get the humanism stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because a person wants to retire doesn't mean they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person should have the option to retire when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially viable for them to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's exactly what they will be doing .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The leftists are rigging the market. I could retire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the leftists would arrange to give me $15 million.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People should have the option of retiring when *THEY* have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secured their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial future. If someone else is involuntarily having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them, that's wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republicans, CBO stands for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, people are not retiring early because they have planned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for their future. They're retiring early because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is confiscating money from some people in order to give it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hedonists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who want to "pursue their happiness" at the expense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's bad and wrong. It is bad and wrong for the government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rig the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see you've now conceded that the CBO has confirmed that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated * GDP will fall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * tax revenues will be lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all because of ACA. You have acknowledged all of that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, *NOT* bullshit, mackerel cunt. CBO statements of fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a single job will be lost and many will be created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The equivalent of 2.5 million full-time jobs will be lost. CBO
>>>>>>>>>>>> said so:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We wrote in the report: "The reduction in CBO's
>>>>>>>>>>>> projections
>>>>>>>>>>>> of hours worked represents a decline in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time- equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017,
>>>>>>>>>>>> rising to about 2.5 million in 2024 . The decline in
>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent employment stemming from the ACA
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> consist of *some people not being employed at all* and
>>>>>>>>>>>> other people working fewer hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbo.gov/publica...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal: 2.5
>>>>>>>>>>>> million
>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time-equivalent jobs lost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The fact still remains that those jobs were going to convert
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> full time to part time long before the ACA was even drafted.
>>>>>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>>>>>> this as a basis for your hatred for ACA and Obama only shows
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> you are willing to lie your ass off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My source? I was working for Walmart when it was announced that
>>>>>>>>>>> they were changing their full time to part time from 60/40 to
>>>>>>>>>>> 40/60
>>>>>>>>>>> in 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the workers shifted to part time Obamacare has made lemonade
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> of lemons.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's taken the equivalent of 2.5 million tax payers out of the
>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And turns them into tax consumers...... People that are using-up
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> limited resources of the Nation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. They're trying to bankrupt the country. It's the only
>>>>>> explanation to their schemes and intransigence when it comes to
>>>>>> cutting
>>>>>> spending. We see it time and again. Democrats clam to believe in
>>>>>> PAYGO
>>>>>> yet when republicans asked them to pay for extending unemployment
>>>>>> benefits recently the democrats offered the preposterous compromise
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> allowing employers to short change their employees pensions. In a
>>>>>> sane
>>>>>> world THAT would be the story and democrats would be mud, but the
>>>>>> corrupt MSM doesn't even mention it so the democrats can promote
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> republicans don't care about people out of work narrative. They don't
>>>>>> want it to be paid for because that wouldn't further their goal of
>>>>>> demonizing republicans and bankrupting the country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I am coming to beleive that the sole purpose is to weaken the
>>>>> United States so that other world powers may pursue thier agendas
>>>>> without
>>>>> us being able to interfere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't name names, I will just recall who some of the Clinton's were
>>>>> supposedly involved with and the kind of antiAmerican scum Obama
>>>>> consorts
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>> It really is the only answer that makes sense. Who wants to rule over
>>>>> a
>>>>> bunch of leechs and indolent, stoned whiners? No one with noble
>>>>> ambitions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means that the Democrats and Progressives are working as agents
>>>>> of
>>>>> enemy powers to the detriment of the American civil population,
>>>>> civilization and the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which makes them what? A clear and present danger. And what does Obama
>>>>> do
>>>>> to "enemies of the US" even when they are citizens?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us apply the standard equally.
>>>>
>>>> Time for a drone strike.
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>> DNC headquarters? The Den of thieves.
>>
>>For starters.
>>
>>-Eddie Haskell
>>
>
> Drone strike?
>
> What...no rope?

Yeah, for the survivors.

-Eddie Haskell