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David and Sharon Phillips

7/17/2007 11:44:00 AM

I work for a large conservative BigCo, but have been using Ruby for
some time now - sort of unofficially.
Recently I managed to get approval to train other people in Ruby so
they too would be able to use it.
My first training session begins tomorrow with a small (but
enthusiastic) group.
Funny thing is, I sent out an email to see who would be interested,
and *all* the responses I got back were from older people (as in
older than 30 [being generous :-) ]) who's backgrounds were in Cobol
and mainframes. They're not exactly up-to-date with latest
programming ideas (none had even heard of Ruby) but they're pretty
smart and I can't wait.

Just writing this as encouragement for anyone in the same position as
myself.

Cheers,
Dave

15 Answers

Robert Dober

7/17/2007 12:24:00 PM

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On 7/17/07, Sharon Phillips <phillipsds@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I work for a large conservative BigCo, but have been using Ruby for
> some time now - sort of unofficially.
> Recently I managed to get approval to train other people in Ruby so
> they too would be able to use it.
> My first training session begins tomorrow with a small (but
> enthusiastic) group.
> Funny thing is, I sent out an email to see who would be interested,
> and *all* the responses I got back were from older people (as in
> older than 30 [being generous :-) ]) who's backgrounds were in Cobol
> and mainframes. They're not exactly up-to-date with latest
> programming ideas (none had even heard of Ruby) but they're pretty
> smart and I can't wait.
>
> Just writing this as encouragement for anyone in the same position as
> myself.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
Hi Sharon err Dave ;)
this is indeed interesting stuff, will you keep us updated. BTW my age >> 30 ;).

Cheers
Robert


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I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java.
I just didn't know it would be called Ruby
-- Kent Beck

Chad Perrin

7/17/2007 12:43:00 PM

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On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:24:03PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
> On 7/17/07, Sharon Phillips <phillipsds@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Dave
> >
> Hi Sharon err Dave ;)
> this is indeed interesting stuff, will you keep us updated. BTW my age >>
> 30 ;).

Hmm. Mine too. I wonder what the common age distribution of Ruby
enthusiasts is.

I noticed the Sharon/Dave thing, too. I wonder what that's about.

--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.ap... ]
MacUser, Nov. 1990: "There comes a time in the history of any project when
it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production."

David and Sharon Phillips

7/17/2007 12:46:00 PM

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> BTW my age >> 30 ;)

This would make an interesting thread in itself - what people's
backgrounds were before Ruby, and what sort of spread of work people
are doing currently.

Todd Burch

7/17/2007 12:47:00 PM

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Sharon Phillips wrote:
> ...
> older people (as in
> older than 30 [being generous :-) ]) who's backgrounds were in Cobol
> and mainframes. They're not exactly up-to-date with latest
> programming ideas (none had even heard of Ruby) but they're pretty
> smart and I can't wait.
>

Hey Dave. 44 here. I started with Ruby in 2004. It's the most
enjoyable language I've ever programmed in. Closest thing to it on the
mainframe is REXX, and compare to Ruby, REXX sucks. (And I love REXX!,
or, at least what I am able to do with REXX on the mainframe)

Hope your training session goes well.

This will get them excited - assuming they are familiar with REXX. Show
them how to sort an array in REXX (a screen worth of code, if you are
good), and then with Ruby. They'll be hooked!

Todd

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Todd Burch

7/17/2007 12:49:00 PM

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Sharon Phillips wrote:
>> BTW my age >> 30 ;)
>
> This would make an interesting thread in itself - what people's
> backgrounds were before Ruby, and what sort of spread of work people
> are doing currently.

Start 'er up!

Todd

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Lyle Johnson

7/17/2007 1:18:00 PM

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On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:

> I noticed the Sharon/Dave thing, too. I wonder what that's about.

Given that the user name on the e-mail account is "phillipsds", I'm
guessing that Dave and his wife Sharon share that e-mail account, and
that she drew the short straw and got her name attached to it.

Or maybe he has a split personality. That could work too.

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

7/17/2007 3:33:00 PM

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Sharon Phillips wrote:
>> BTW my age >> 30 ;)
>
> This would make an interesting thread in itself - what people's
> backgrounds were before Ruby, and what sort of spread of work people are
> doing currently.
>
>

Well, there's another thread going on about this, but I don't have time
to type in the whole enchilada right now. :) But *immediately* before
Ruby, my main languages were Perl and R -- Perl for extracting data from
various text and log files and in some cases capturing raw data and in
some cases analyzing said data, and R for analysis and graphics. That's
still the way I do my day job, with the addition of SQL and RDBMSs SQL
Server and PostgreSQL. That's mostly because we don't have any other
Ruby programmers and I have a few thousand lines of my own Perl that
needs to be maintained.

But at home, I've pretty much abandoned Perl for Ruby, and do hard core
numerical work in R. The other language I do a lot of is Lisp/Scheme,
because of its usage in algorithmic composition and synthesis of music.
A strong number four is Forth. I do almost no programming in C or Java
and none in any BASIC, Pascal, C++, Python, PHP, or Lua. About the only
one out of that list that appeals to me is Lua, and I'm also learning
Erlang. I have no desire to get into Haskell or OCaml.

The "spread" of work at home includes computational finance, algorithmic
composition and synthesis of music, Linux capacity planning, performance
modeling, and, of course, beta testing all the open source tools for all
of the above. :)

SonOfLilit

7/17/2007 3:41:00 PM

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On 7/17/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> Sharon Phillips wrote:
> But at home, I've pretty much abandoned Perl for Ruby, and do hard core
> numerical work in R. The other language I do a lot of is Lisp/Scheme,
> because of its usage in algorithmic composition and synthesis of music.
> A strong number four is Forth. I do almost no programming in C or Java
> and none in any BASIC, Pascal, C++, Python, PHP, or Lua. About the only
> one out of that list that appeals to me is Lua, and I'm also learning
> Erlang. I have no desire to get into Haskell or OCaml.

I wonder, why aren't you interested in Haskell and OCaml?


Aur

Chad Perrin

7/17/2007 6:51:00 PM

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On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:17:46PM +0900, Lyle Johnson wrote:
>
> On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> >I noticed the Sharon/Dave thing, too. I wonder what that's about.
>
> Given that the user name on the e-mail account is "phillipsds", I'm
> guessing that Dave and his wife Sharon share that e-mail account, and
> that she drew the short straw and got her name attached to it.
>
> Or maybe he has a split personality. That could work too.

Sounds like a good movie waiting to be made. I wonder if a movie about
someone with dissociative personality disorder and a love of the Ruby
language would do any good for the language community.

--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.ap... ]
Leon Festinger: "A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him
you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts and figures and he questions
your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point."

Ilan Berci

7/17/2007 9:33:00 PM

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Sharon Phillips wrote:
>>> BTW my age >> 30 ;)
>>
>> This would make an interesting thread in itself - what people's
>> backgrounds were before Ruby, and what sort of spread of work people are
>> doing currently.
>>
>>
>
>
Day job is C++, after work and weekends are all full of family and
chores, sleep time is all spent dreaming and scheming in Ruby.

ilan

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