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Re: I need serious help!

seebs

7/16/2007 12:40:00 AM

In message <a27a2ca39674ea8fc2e0ec41d6210f8d@ruby-forum.com>, Joe Wiltrout writes:
>Lemme clarify. I have what gamers experiance planned out.

Really? All of it? Seems unlikely.

>I have no game
>engine or combat system, etc. I have an idea of the graphics, I have an
>idea of everything the gamer cares about. Graphics, customizablity, etc.

Well, uhm. I hate to break it to you, but gamers care a lot about combat
systems. Gamers have been known to shun a game into bankruptcy because
the combat system sucked. The combat system IS part of the game experience.
There's a huge difference between Fallout's action point system and World
of Warcraft's "global cooldown". It matters.

See, you don't have a game concept. You have a front end concept. That's
way different.

>Don't tell me I spelled something wrong, because I don't care.

You should. If you don't care about spelling, you're gonna have a hell
of a time getting a computer to do anything.

-s
5 Answers

Joe Wiltrout

7/16/2007 1:53:00 AM

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unknown wrote:
> In message <a27a2ca39674ea8fc2e0ec41d6210f8d@ruby-forum.com>, Joe
> Wiltrout writes:
>>Lemme clarify. I have what gamers experiance planned out.
>
> Really? All of it? Seems unlikely.
>
>>I have no game
>>engine or combat system, etc. I have an idea of the graphics, I have an
>>idea of everything the gamer cares about. Graphics, customizablity, etc.
>
> Well, uhm. I hate to break it to you, but gamers care a lot about
> combat
> systems. Gamers have been known to shun a game into bankruptcy because
> the combat system sucked. The combat system IS part of the game
> experience.
> There's a huge difference between Fallout's action point system and
> World
> of Warcraft's "global cooldown". It matters.
>
> See, you don't have a game concept. You have a front end concept.
> That's
> way different.
>
>>Don't tell me I spelled something wrong, because I don't care.
>
> You should. If you don't care about spelling, you're gonna have a hell
> of a time getting a computer to do anything.
>
> -s

Clarify: I have a combat *system* planned out. I don't have a combat
*engine*. I planned on using about the same system that WoW does, only
slightly modifed to better fit the game. Clarify: I don't care about
spelling when I'm on forums or an online game, etc. I do use proper
spelling in other things. Like resumes, E-Mails, important documents,
etc. I usually use spellcheck on those kinds of things. Problem with
Ruby Forums is, they have such a low-grade forum that it has no
spellcheck, no bold, italic, or underline text, no changing fonts, no
changing color or size, no sigs, no avatars, no sections for specific
things. Anyway, I have what I want planned. I don't have the means to
create it by myself currently. Maybe, probably awhile from now, I will
have either someone to do it for me, or a better Programming Language to
write it in. Obviously Im not going to write it in Ruby. I might not
even make it for PC. I'm probably going to use the Gamebryo Engine or
have someone use it. But until then, I'm just gunna have a bit of fun
with Logo.


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Sy Ali

7/16/2007 3:18:00 AM

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On 7/15/07, Joe Wiltrout <wiltroutja@aol.com> wrote:
> Clarify: I have a combat *system* planned out. I don't have a combat
> *engine*. I planned on using about the same system that WoW does, only
> slightly modifed to better fit the game.

Be careful not to be sued for copying their system.


> Clarify: I don't care about
> spelling when I'm on forums or an online game, etc. I do use proper
> spelling in other things. Like resumes, E-Mails, important documents,
> etc. I usually use spellcheck on those kinds of things. Problem with
> Ruby Forums is, they have such a low-grade forum that it has no
> spellcheck, no bold, italic, or underline text, no changing fonts, no
> changing color or size, no sigs, no avatars, no sections for specific
> things.

Bold/italics (rich text) is probably not available because the forum
is also being copied to the ruby mailing list. And I've only met
*one* programmer who likes rich text / HTML emails. It's banned from
any serious mailing list.

The spell-checking should be a part of your browser, not the forum.
Firefox has it built in.


> Maybe, probably awhile from now, I will
> have either someone to do it for me, or a better Programming Language to
> write it in.

I'd recommend you write down everything you've learned.
Then hire a programmer/consultant to help you complete the structure.
Then hire programmers/etc to do the actual work.

Sammy Larbi

7/16/2007 12:31:00 PM

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Joe Wiltrout wrote, On 7/15/2007 8:52 PM:
> I'm probably going to use the Gamebryo Engine or
> have someone use it. But until then, I'm just gunna have a bit of fun
> with Logo.
>

How much is Gamebryo? I'm interested in it as well.

Joe Wiltrout

7/16/2007 10:07:00 PM

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Sammy Larbi wrote:
> Joe Wiltrout wrote, On 7/15/2007 8:52 PM:
>> I'm probably going to use the Gamebryo Engine or
>> have someone use it. But until then, I'm just gunna have a bit of fun
>> with Logo.
>>
>
> How much is Gamebryo? I'm interested in it as well.

Not sure. But it would be interesting to see a Shooter game, perhaps, in
the Gamebryo engine. Appearently it can be used to make a game over
multiple platforms. Oblivion being a 360, PC, and PS3 game and all. It
is capable of hellishly good graphics, if you go by Oblivion. Best
graphics I'v ever seen. So I look forward to seeing what you can make in
the future. And, as Almighty Technical Dude Aur said, let's keep it
about technical help. Rather than the huge flame war started from a
misunderstanding of my original question.


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Joe Wiltrout

7/16/2007 10:09:00 PM

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Better yet, time for a new thread. Entitled, I Need Serious Technical
Advice! And I assure that I will not be the intentional cause of a flame
war like the one that was caused by a misunderstanding of the question.

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