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Re: issue with rake and model names that conflict with FileUtil methods

hemant

7/13/2007 11:30:00 PM

On 7/13/07, Jack Dempsey <jack.dempsey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't believe this has been discussed here, and its something I've run
> into recently. Its a known issue, but I'm wondering if anyone has some
> thoughts on fixing it. Some background information can be found here:
>
> http://dev.rubyonrails.org/t...
>
> It looks like the methods were made to be private somewhat recently, but
> .send gets around that...so, while I can define a method explicitly in my
> model to get around this issue, it still doesn't solve the root of the
> problem. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>


This is classic case of open source ball game. Its a clear case of
namespace pollution by both rake and ActiveRecord.

First, though I understand Jim's intentions of making things
friendlier to the users of rake by importing entire FileUtils into
Object, but there seems to be a problem here.

Then ActiveRecord makes it worse by importing all methods of rake into
itself. I do not understand why ActiveRecord is hitting upon a rake
method, while running a migration.
4 Answers

Obveeus

9/4/2012 1:09:00 PM

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"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>"Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>Apparently Dorn is trying to get a Captain Worf TV series off the ground.
>>>Hopefully this will have better luck than the previously hyped Captain
>>>Sulu series. I'll actually see Dorn at a convention this November so I
>>>(or someone else in the audience) can ask him about it.
>
>>I think it is about time for another Star Trek TV series, but rebooting it
>>with a character unworthy of command seems like a bad idea...and rebooting
>>it with an actor unworthy of command is an even worse idea.
>
> Should I bother to ask why you have a hard-on for the actor?

He whined about how it was unfair that he had to wear makeup for the show
and blamed it on the fact that he was a black man. Somehow, Star Trek is a
racist production in a racist world of TV so, they try to hide the black man
even when they allow him to appear on screen.


Adam H. Kerman

9/4/2012 1:27:00 PM

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Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>"Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>>Apparently Dorn is trying to get a Captain Worf TV series off the ground.
>>>>Hopefully this will have better luck than the previously hyped Captain
>>>>Sulu series. I'll actually see Dorn at a convention this November so I
>>>>(or someone else in the audience) can ask him about it.

>>>I think it is about time for another Star Trek TV series, but rebooting it
>>>with a character unworthy of command seems like a bad idea...and rebooting
>>>it with an actor unworthy of command is an even worse idea.

>>Should I bother to ask why you have a hard-on for the actor?

>He whined about how it was unfair that he had to wear makeup for the show
>and blamed it on the fact that he was a black man. Somehow, Star Trek is a
>racist production in a racist world of TV so, they try to hide the black man
>even when they allow him to appear on screen.

I never heard that. When was that interview?

He was amusing on Next Generation, less so on Deep Space Nine.

Obveeus

9/4/2012 1:50:00 PM

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"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>"Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>Apparently Dorn is trying to get a Captain Worf TV series off the
>>>>>ground.
>>>>>Hopefully this will have better luck than the previously hyped Captain
>>>>>Sulu series. I'll actually see Dorn at a convention this November so I
>>>>>(or someone else in the audience) can ask him about it.
>
>>>>I think it is about time for another Star Trek TV series, but rebooting
>>>>it
>>>>with a character unworthy of command seems like a bad idea...and
>>>>rebooting
>>>>it with an actor unworthy of command is an even worse idea.
>
>>>Should I bother to ask why you have a hard-on for the actor?
>
>>He whined about how it was unfair that he had to wear makeup for the show
>>and blamed it on the fact that he was a black man. Somehow, Star Trek is
>>a
>>racist production in a racist world of TV so, they try to hide the black
>>man
>>even when they allow him to appear on screen.
>
> I never heard that. When was that interview?

As I recall, it was while Next Generation was still airing.


Jim G.

9/7/2012 7:41:00 PM

0

Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:49:44 -0400:
>
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> > Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
> >>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>"Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >
> >>>>>Apparently Dorn is trying to get a Captain Worf TV series off the
> >>>>>ground.
> >>>>>Hopefully this will have better luck than the previously hyped Captain
> >>>>>Sulu series. I'll actually see Dorn at a convention this November so I
> >>>>>(or someone else in the audience) can ask him about it.
> >
> >>>>I think it is about time for another Star Trek TV series, but rebooting
> >>>>it
> >>>>with a character unworthy of command seems like a bad idea...and
> >>>>rebooting
> >>>>it with an actor unworthy of command is an even worse idea.
> >
> >>>Should I bother to ask why you have a hard-on for the actor?
> >
> >>He whined about how it was unfair that he had to wear makeup for the show
> >>and blamed it on the fact that he was a black man. Somehow, Star Trek is
> >>a
> >>racist production in a racist world of TV so, they try to hide the black
> >>man
> >>even when they allow him to appear on screen.
> >
> > I never heard that. When was that interview?
>
> As I recall, it was while Next Generation was still airing.

If it's true, then it was very generous and gracious of the suits to
look past it. Surely there were times when they could have killed off
the character, but they didn't do it. It's equally likely that they
could have left him out of the movies entirely, but, again, they didn't
do it. I'm hoping/thinking that this was just a smear piece that you
made the mistake of taking seriously at the time.

--
Jim G. | Waukesha, WI
"You will create an evil of your own making." -- Knights Templar Grandmaster Data