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How to stop the ML sending my mails back to me?

Felipe Contreras

5/11/2007 8:39:00 AM

I don't want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail display.

I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even
tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I
got no reply.

Any hints?

--
Felipe Contreras

8 Answers

Enrique Comba Riepenhausen

5/11/2007 8:49:00 AM

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On 11 May 2007, at 10:38, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> I don't want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail
> display.
>
> I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even
> tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I
> got no reply.
>
> Any hints?
>
> --
> Felipe Contreras
>

You could mark yourself as spam ;)


Bill Guindon

5/11/2007 3:02:00 PM

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On 5/11/07, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail display.
>
> I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even
> tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I
> got no reply.
>
> Any hints?

It's actually somewhat of a 'feature' of gmail. Before they added
that, you only saw the message you sent. When you see the second
copy, it's the copy from the list - so it confirms that it actually
made it to the list.

Some find it annoying, I find it helpful. I just did a quick scan of
the Gmail options, and I don't see any way to turn it off.

> --
> Felipe Contreras
>
>


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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
The best answer to most questions is "it depends".

Gregory Brown

5/11/2007 3:12:00 PM

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On 5/11/07, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/11/07, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail display.
> >
> > I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even
> > tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I
> > got no reply.
> >
> > Any hints?
>
> It's actually somewhat of a 'feature' of gmail. Before they added
> that, you only saw the message you sent. When you see the second
> copy, it's the copy from the list - so it confirms that it actually
> made it to the list.

You know, it annoyed me at first until I recognized it as a ping-back
kind of feature. Then it still annoyed me, but it at least had a
purpose.

This has come up several times before, there are filter hacks but none
are satisfactory so far. The best I had would remove both of my
mails, which got really annoying. Other (sane) filter hacks are
welcome, as it'd be nice to stick it on a wiki page or blog entry so
we can point people at it.

Greg Donald

5/11/2007 5:51:00 PM

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On 5/11/07, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's actually somewhat of a 'feature' of gmail.


None of the other 7 lists I'm subscribed to using Gmail exhibit this behavior.



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Greg Donald
http://des...

alexander

5/11/2007 6:11:00 PM

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dear sender,
i´m out of the office until may 29th.
your email will not be forwarded.
for urgent stuff please contact joern@fork.de
kind regards,
alexander





Bill Guindon

5/11/2007 7:37:00 PM

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On 5/11/07, Greg Donald <gdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/11/07, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's actually somewhat of a 'feature' of gmail.
>
>
> None of the other 7 lists I'm subscribed to using Gmail exhibit this behavior.

Not sure how to answer that one, but it seems it may have to do with
the list setup. That, or the settings you used when you subscribed.
I'm fairly certain that it happens on all of the lists I'm on, or at
least most of them. Then again, I'm not really all that focused on
it.

>
>
> --
> Greg Donald
> http://des...
>
>


--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
The best answer to most questions is "it depends".

Doug Phillips

5/11/2007 10:25:00 PM

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> Not sure how to answer that one, but it seems it may have to
> do with the list setup. That, or the settings you used when
> you subscribed.
> I'm fairly certain that it happens on all of the lists I'm
> on, or at least most of them. Then again, I'm not really all
> that focused on it.

Most ML software has an option to not send a message that you sent to
you - mailman has a nodupes option, etc.

Browsing through the command help just now, I didn't find an equivalent
for whatever software handles the backend for ruby-talk, so I'd say
you're probably stuck there.

As for a gmail filter (or any other filter), you might try looking for
messages that were sent to the ruby-talk list and by you, then drop
those in the trash. I'm not a gmail user on a regular basis, so I have
not tested and the usual disclaimers apply ;)

-Doug

Felipe Contreras

5/18/2007 12:59:00 PM

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On 5/12/07, Doug Phillips <DPhillips@cybergroup.com> wrote:
> > Not sure how to answer that one, but it seems it may have to
> > do with the list setup. That, or the settings you used when
> > you subscribed.
> > I'm fairly certain that it happens on all of the lists I'm
> > on, or at least most of them. Then again, I'm not really all
> > that focused on it.
>
> Most ML software has an option to not send a message that you sent to
> you - mailman has a nodupes option, etc.
>
> Browsing through the command help just now, I didn't find an equivalent
> for whatever software handles the backend for ruby-talk, so I'd say
> you're probably stuck there.
>
> As for a gmail filter (or any other filter), you might try looking for
> messages that were sent to the ruby-talk list and by you, then drop
> those in the trash. I'm not a gmail user on a regular basis, so I have
> not tested and the usual disclaimers apply ;)

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I have seen that mailman has that option, so I can configure it. But
not with this ML manager.

I like the ping back option, in fact I wanted to enable it in my
mailman subscriptions, but not after I saw how Gmail handles it.

I see two emails, one appears as a reply of the one before, and all
the text is compressed in a kind of ugly way.

Unfortunately my Gmail requests for features seem to always go to the trash.

Hopefully someone can implement this option in the ruby-talk ML manager.

--
Felipe Contreras