Asp Forum - Suggestions for a book

malcom.mac

3/12/2007 7:43:00 PM

Hello guys,
I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
I have found these titles:

- Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
(seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
don't know if it's complete)
- Agile Web Development with Rails
- Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers

Then probability I need of a book about Ruby language... or not?
Mmmmmm. Ruby Way: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby Programming ?

(I know Java-Objective-C-C and something about JS).
Thanks a lot
malcom

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macos indipendent developer

8 Answers

Jeremy McAnally

3/12/2007 8:13:00 PM

Ruby for Rails covers both bases if you'd like to go that route: a
very good explanation of Ruby with a lot of Rails content

--Jeremy

On 3/12/07, malcom <malcom.mac@g-m-ail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> I have found these titles:
>
> - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
> don't know if it's complete)
> - Agile Web Development with Rails
> - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers
>
> Then probability I need of a book about Ruby language... or not?
> Mmmmmm. Ruby Way: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby Programming ?
>
> (I know Java-Objective-C-C and something about JS).
> Thanks a lot
> malcom
>
> --
> http://www.malc...
> macos indipendent developer
>
>

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Dejan Dimic

3/12/2007 8:24:00 PM

You got everything you need for developing with Ruby and Ruby on
Rails.

The most importation is a good will, enthusiasm and time to try.

There is a lot of on-line documentation so take you keyboard and just
start working.

Husein Choroomi

3/12/2007 8:33:00 PM

Yes David Black's book "Ruby for Rails" is a great resource, it
emphasize Ruby techniques for Rails, so you'll understand Rails
completely.

But IMO, Agile Web Development with Rails [2] is a must-read book, If
you're going to be full-time RoR developer.

[1] http://manning....
[2] http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titl...

On 3/12/07, malcom <malcom.mac@g-m-ail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> I have found these titles:
>
> - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
> don't know if it's complete)
> - Agile Web Development with Rails
> - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers
>
> Then probability I need of a book about Ruby language... or not?
> Mmmmmm. Ruby Way: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby Programming ?
>
> (I know Java-Objective-C-C and something about JS).
> Thanks a lot
> malcom
>
> --
> http://www.malc...
> macos indipendent developer
>
>

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y2kbugxp90

3/13/2007 3:37:00 AM

On Mar 12, 1:45 pm, malcom....@g-m-ail.com (malcom) wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> I have found these titles:
>
> - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
> don't know if it's complete)
> - Agile Web Development with Rails
> - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers

Ruby for Rails is very thorough as others have suggested, but it's
just a tad sluggish for those who already have programming experience
(as I'm learning the hard way ;) or for those who just 'get it'. I'm
making much more headway in learning Ruby itself by messing with irb
than with the book. As for Rails, the book explains with great
lucidity the connection between Ruby and the framework. I haven't
read either of the other two books, though, and Ruby for Rails isn't
complete.

>
> Then probability I need of a book about Ruby language... or not?
> Mmmmmm. Ruby Way: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby Programming ?
>
> (I know Java-Objective-C-C and something about JS).
> Thanks a lot
> malcom
>
> --http://www.malc...
> macos indipendent developer

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

3/13/2007 4:54:00 AM

malcom wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> I have found these titles:
>
> - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
> don't know if it's complete)
> - Agile Web Development with Rails
> - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers
>
> Then probability I need of a book about Ruby language... or not?
> Mmmmmm. Ruby Way: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby Programming ?
>
> (I know Java-Objective-C-C and something about JS).
> Thanks a lot
> malcom
>
You'll end up with more than one book *eventually*, so the real question
is "what should be the *first* book?" I'd say for someone interested in
both Ruby and Rails, "Ruby for Rails" is by far the best starter. There
isn't enough Ruby in "Agile Development with Rails" and there isn't
enough Rails in "Programming Ruby", You'll end up owning them at some point.

--
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7stud 7stud

3/13/2007 12:51:00 PM

unknown wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> I have found these titles:
>
> - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I

I looked at that one in the bookstore yesterday. The preface said is
was for beginners to Ruby and Rails.

> - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers
>

I looked at that one too, and in the preface it said you should have
some exposure to Rails already.

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dblack

3/13/2007 1:27:00 PM

Hi --

On 3/13/07, 7stud 7stud <dolgun@excite.com> wrote:
> unknown wrote:
> > Hello guys,
> > I would to join into ruby on rails/ruby community so I need of a book. A
> > complete big bible and not and intro or advanced-only book.
> > I have found these titles:
> >
> > - Build Your Own Ruby on Rails Web Applications
> > (seems to be the best with the newest version of the framework but I
>
> I looked at that one in the bookstore yesterday. The preface said is
> was for beginners to Ruby and Rails.
>
> > - Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers
> >
>
> I looked at that one too, and in the preface it said you should have
> some exposure to Rails already.

Mainly you just have to have a sense of the client/server nature of
Web communication, and the fact that Rails's place in the food chain
is as a tool for helping you build server-side applications. And,
come to think of it, if you don't know that, you shortly will :-) But
I wanted to suggest that having some sense of what the pieces of the
puzzle are, even if you don't know them in detail, can be helpful.

The book doesn't assume that you've already written Rails apps, though
a lot of its readers have. In that sense it's both an intro book and a
backing-and-filling book for Ruby knowledge.

David

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Michael Christ

1/12/2011 7:39:00 AM

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>
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>
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>
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>
> Sid

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