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Des

3/10/2007 7:13:00 PM

How many times have you ever needed to find just one argument of a
method/function/operator or just some word of syntax while working?

For example, in web development, you really need to work with many
programming languages (ruby/python/perl/php/sql...), scripts (js/
as...) and standards (HTML/CSS...). So, it is very hard to remember
all details...

The first thing you have to do is to google it or to use the index
of .chm or just Ctrl+F thru some manuals or pages... and as a result
you have a lot of garbage and you need to search again for some useful
sample or description.

On-page.net - is an attempt to reduce the garbage and give to you just
what you really need.

The idea is this: only one page with information blocks. Each block
can describe from one to a few keywords. All the keywords are
marked(indexed) by block creator (No machine index and search! Closer
to Web 3.0). Every visitor can add, modify and/or delete a block, but
all changes will be pre-moderated.

As a result, you have a page where you can find a useful sample or a
description of any keyword or symbol, just by typing it right in your
browser. You don't even need to use Ctrl+F... and you can navigate
between keyword places via arrows or F3.

Ruby.on-page.net - is just the beginning of new level of online help.
For now it is just a beta version of the engine and for only one
language - Ruby (includes just some scraps from "Programming Ruby").
Now I am trying to improve the functionality, stability and
performance of the interface. Also, it must work cross-browser and
support many languages and localizations. What I really need now is
your advice and ideas, or any feedback that can help me to make it
better and useful. Try not to concentrate on bugs and errors, but
think about what is good and what is bad...

You can try it right now (for now just in Firefox) - http://ruby.o...

All your things you can post here, you can mail me (des7ign@gmail.com)
or you can use the feedback form on the site's page.

Why have I posted here? It's because Ruby inspired me to make the life
easier ...
19 Answers

Lionel Bouton

3/10/2007 7:24:00 PM

0

Des wrote the following on 10.03.2007 20:15 :
> You can try it right now (for now just in Firefox) - http://ruby.o...
>
>

Seemed interesting, but doesn't work with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Linux.

Des

3/10/2007 7:31:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 9:24 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
wrote:

> Seemed interesting, but doesn't work with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Linux.

It's bad :(
For now I worked only with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Win.
I you can, please write about what exactly don't work?

Lionel Bouton

3/10/2007 7:57:00 PM

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Des wrote the following on 10.03.2007 20:35 :
> On Mar 10, 9:24 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Seemed interesting, but doesn't work with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Linux.
>>
>
> It's bad :(
> For now I worked only with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Win.
> I you can, please write about what exactly don't work?
>

I admit the error pissed me off and I forgot to make my message
usefull... My apologies.

The first page gives me :

Version for your browser is in development... For now page works only in
Firefox <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/fi...

Which is slightly ironic given that I use Firefox (note: although I use
the NoScript extension, I authorized scripts for your site temporarily
and it didn't work better)...

Lionel

Stefano Crocco

3/10/2007 8:03:00 PM

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Alle sabato 10 marzo 2007, Des ha scritto:
> On Mar 10, 9:24 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
>
> wrote:
> > Seemed interesting, but doesn't work with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Linux.
>
> It's bad :(
> For now I worked only with Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Win.
> I you can, please write about what exactly don't work?

I'm using firefox 2.0.0.2 on Linux (gentoo, package mozilla-firefox-bin) and
it works. It's nice, but I think many users will confused by the fact of not
having to look for a text field to enter the text (at least, I was). Blindly,
I tried to write require... and it worked! After that, reading again the text
at the top of the page, I found that it was written in the lines below "Just
type the word or symbol you are looking for". In my opinion, this should be
stressed much, much more.

Stefano

Des

3/10/2007 8:15:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 9:57 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
wrote:

> I admit the error pissed me off and I forgot to make my message
> usefull... My apologies.
>
> The first page gives me :
>
> Version for your browser is in development... For now page works only in
> Firefox <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/fi...
>
> Which is slightly ironic given that I use Firefox (note: although I use
> the NoScript extension, I authorized scripts for your site temporarily
> and it didn't work better)...
>
> Lionel

Browser detection is based on the user-agent string. Can you send me
the user-agent string of your browser?
You can alert see with
<script>document.write(window.navigator.userAgent)</script>

Des

3/10/2007 8:24:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 10:03 pm, Stefano Crocco <stefano.cro...@alice.it> wrote:

> In my opinion, this should be stressed much, much more.

Thanks for the comment. I have stressed it with underline...

Lionel Bouton

3/10/2007 8:24:00 PM

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Des wrote the following on 10.03.2007 21:15 :
> [...]
> Browser detection is based on the user-agent string. Can you send me
> the user-agent string of your browser?
> You can alert see with
> <script>document.write(window.navigator.userAgent)</script>
>
>
>
>
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; fr; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070304
BonEcho/2.0.0.2

Yeah, BonEcho... Apparently Mozilla put some restrictions around the
Firefox name (I'm using Gentoo but with Firefox compiled from source
unlike Stefano). May I suggest you check for Gecko (maybe with a minimum
version if you need to)?

Lionel

Choong Wei Tjeng

3/10/2007 8:29:00 PM

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Hrm 3rd try.. had some trouble replying to your messages, Evolution
tries to post it to a newsgroup. Here goes:

It appears to be working fine here, FF 2.0.0.2 on Ubuntu Linux. It
certainly is easy to search, but the amount of information on one screen
is a bit overwhelming imho.

Maybe it would be neat to 'grey out' the rest of the blocks when you're
doing a search, so it's easier for the reader to focus on the relevant
information.

Also, I think the font is a bit small :) And the 'search box' content is
sometimes a bit slow on the updating. For example, if I type 'Hash' at
my normal typing speed, it only shows 'Ha'. I have to type slow for it
to work.

Lastly, maybe it might be a nice idea to make the 'search box'
permanently visible, which could be handy if you want to paste search
strings. It would also make it easier for first-time visitors.

It seems like a good idea though, I've always been annoyed at the lousy
interface of http://www.ruby-doc... which makes it a pain to
search for things. Keep it up :)


On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 05:25 +0900, Des wrote:
> On Mar 10, 10:03 pm, Stefano Crocco <stefano.cro...@alice.it> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, this should be stressed much, much more.
>
> Thanks for the comment. I have stressed it with underline...
>
>


Des

3/10/2007 8:32:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 10:24 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
wrote:

> Yeah, BonEcho... Apparently Mozilla put some restrictions around the
> Firefox name (I'm using Gentoo but with Firefox compiled from source
> unlike Stefano). May I suggest you check for Gecko (maybe with a minimum
> version if you need to)?
>
> Lionel

I just have added BonEcho to trusted browsers. Can you try it now?

Lionel Bouton

3/10/2007 8:39:00 PM

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Des wrote the following on 10.03.2007 21:35 :
> On Mar 10, 10:24 pm, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, BonEcho... Apparently Mozilla put some restrictions around the
>> Firefox name (I'm using Gentoo but with Firefox compiled from source
>> unlike Stefano). May I suggest you check for Gecko (maybe with a minimum
>> version if you need to)?
>>
>> Lionel
>>
>
> I just have added BonEcho to trusted browsers. Can you try it now?
>

The main page is loading. Looking around...

Lionel.