Richo
12/10/2010 9:28:00 PM
On Dec 11, 5:11 am, ThomMadura <Tommad...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On 12/10/2010 12:32 PM, arah wrote:
>
> > Richo,
>
> > Are your grand parents APES ?
>
> NO - and neither were YOURS
>
> THEY were humans
>
Well humans are a kind of ape - I know traditionally we have shied
away from saying this - but it doesn't make any kind of sense
biologically.
> And NO Evolutionist ever said that my grandparents were apes either
>
Well, actually - many of them would say we are apes.
You are an ape, your wife is an ape, your children are apes - so
obviously your parents and grandparents were apes.
As Creationists are very fond of pointing out - Dogs give birth to
dogs cats give birth to cats and apes give birth to apes.
> THE only people who claim that are people like YOU - theists - who never
> actually read what evolution means in reality.
>
> By the way - much of the statements in the post you made are actually
> NOT TRUE
>
> YOU see - arah - posting things from your religion is useless when
> posting to educated intelligent people
>
> WE were taught NOT To believe - unless PROOF and suppport is given -
> something theists like YOU never actually provide.
>
> However - Darwin NEVER said that man evolved from apes - it does NOT
> appear IN ANY of his books.
>
He did note that our nearest non-human relatives were the great apes
of Africa.
From that to "we are apes" is a small logical step.
I don't see the point of trying to make a distinction here - like
saying "NO a Cheetah is NOT a cat it is a Cheetah!"
Cheetahs are obviously feline - we are obviously primates - and
particularly the branch of the primates that includes Chimps, humans
and gorillas.
In fact in makes no logical sense to call both Chimps and Gorillas
"apes" and leave us out - because we are closer to chimps than either
chimps or us are to gorillas!
So that just doesn't make any sense.
Cheers, Mark.