rumpelstiltskin
1/6/2013 6:15:00 AM
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:31:07 -0800 (PST), mg <mgkelson@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Jan 2, 7:00?am, rumpelstiltskin <rumpelstilts...@x.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:30:47 -0500, Josh <u...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On 1/1/2013 10:37 PM, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>>
>> >> ? ? I'm disappointed that the Democrats in the senate "compromised"
>> >> or "capitulated" on the $400K level, but I know I'm in the minority
>> >> about this issue.
>>
>> >I use Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich (in his last vote) as the
>> >barometers of whether the Democrats gave up too much. ?They both voted
>> >for the bill.
>>
>> ? ? Maybe I just don't appreciate enough about it then. ?If Sanders
>> and Kucinich both voted for it, that says a lot to me in favour of it,
>> even if they may have gritted their teeth when they voted.
>
>The fiscal cliff deal added $4 trillion to the deficit according to
>the CBO relative to what would have happened if we had gone over the
>cliff and stayed there. Based on a more realistic scenario, though, it
>cut $600 billion over 10 years, which is really almost peanuts. Obama
>starting out asking for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes and wound up
>getting about $600 billion, I think.
>
>I think what might have happened with Sanders and Kucinich is that the
>Medicare cuts scared the hell out of them, and they figured they
>didn't want to risk not getting the money back with future
>negotiations. As for me, I never worried about it too much, and
>besides, we could still lose that Medicare money with future
>negotiations, anyway. How much they worried about the huge Medicare
>cuts might have been the difference, though, on how various Democrats
>looked at the deal.
>
>The question I ask myself now is whether Obama will get that extra $1
>trillion he was looking for in tax hikes, or will future negotiations,
>now that revenues have been cut, be all about Medicare and Social
>Security (and Medicaid) cuts?
>
>
I keep listening, to Inside Washington and McLaughlin today,
but still, nobody has mentioned cutting the military budget.
I've often said that we (the USA) should surrender to Canada.
I don't think they'd take us, unless they're crazy, but if they
did, maybe they could infuse a little sanity and straighten
things out a bit.