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andy

2/10/2007 12:03:00 AM

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Ara.T.Howard

2/10/2007 12:06:00 AM

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greg lee

12/11/2013 6:31:00 PM

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:44:33 AM UTC-10, Willem Orange wrote:
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http://www.cantabile-subito.de/Sopranos/Della_Casa__Lisa/dellacasamarsch...

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12/11/2013 6:32:00 PM

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:31:00 PM UTC-5, music...@gmail.com wrote:
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Ah that's the singer who came to mind - but I never heard that story.

greg lee

12/11/2013 7:19:00 PM

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:32:01 AM UTC-10, Willem Orange wrote:
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- On 26 July 1960, the newly built Salzburg Festspielhaus opened with a performance of Der Rosenkavalier under Herbert von Karajan. She sang the part of the Marschallin in this performance with Sena Jurinac as Octavian and Hilde Gueden as Sophie. Originally, Karajan and film director Paul Czinner planned to make a film of the performance; they asked Della Casa to sing the part of the Marschallin in the film too and she gladly accepted. But due to Walter Legge, well-known recording producer of EMI and husband of Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, Della Casa was replaced by Schwarzkopf for the film. Shocked with being betrayed by this last-minute decision, although she sang the scheduled performances of the season (the Marschallin and Countess Almaviva in The Marriage of Figaro, Della Casa decided never to sing there again.. When asked several times subsequently to do so, she declined, replying: "No, sir, for me, Salzburg is dead." (“No, sir, Salzburg für mich ist gestorben.")[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_...

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12/11/2013 7:30:00 PM

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:18:38 AM UTC-10, music...@gmail.com wrote:
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When she died a year ago, Salzburg flew a black flag for her:

http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/12/just-in-salzburg-flies-black-flag-for-lamented-s...

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12/11/2013 10:31:00 PM

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http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/12/just-in-salzburg-flies-black-flag-for-lamented-s...

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12/11/2013 11:42:00 PM

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:30:30 PM UTC-5, music...@gmail.com wrote:
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Even better the Arabella film with her is complete!!!

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