Asp Forum - ODBC, MS SQL Server

Bolo

1/5/2007 3:21:00 PM

Hello

I try to connect ruby to a MS SQL database . This the error message.

b.michelin@srv-mq-lamp2:~$ irb1.8
irb(main):001:0> require "dbi"
=> true
irb(main):002:0> dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:ODBC:DataBase', 'user',
'password')
WARNING: no ODBC driver manager found.
DBI::DatabaseError: INTERN (0) [RubyODBC]Cannot allocate SQLHENV
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/DBD/ODBC/ODBC.rb:95:in `connect'
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:424:in `connect'
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:215:in `connect'
from (irb):2

Can You help me

Thanks

11 Answers

greg.kujawa

1/5/2007 5:04:00 PM

This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC? Judging
by the command line prompt it doesn't appear to be the case. If so then
you should load UNIX ODBC I believe...

Bolo wrote:
> Hello
>
> I try to connect ruby to a MS SQL database . This the error message.
>
> b.michelin@srv-mq-lamp2:~$ irb1.8
> irb(main):001:0> require "dbi"
> => true
> irb(main):002:0> dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:ODBC:DataBase', 'user',
> 'password')
> WARNING: no ODBC driver manager found.
> DBI::DatabaseError: INTERN (0) [RubyODBC]Cannot allocate SQLHENV
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/DBD/ODBC/ODBC.rb:95:in `connect'
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:424:in `connect'
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:215:in `connect'
> from (irb):2
>
> Can You help me
>
> Thanks

Bolo

1/5/2007 5:08:00 PM

Hello, Hello

> This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?

No I use Debian etch. When i this command

# isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
+---------------------------------------+
| Connected! |
| |
| sql-statement |
| help [tablename] |
| quit |
| |
+---------------------------------------+
SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
your db)
+------------+-------------------------------+
| id | login |
+------------+-------------------------------+
| 1 | user1 |
| 3 | user2 |
+------------+-------------------------------+
2 rows affected
2 rows returned
SQL> quit

it's working

greg.kujawa

1/5/2007 5:12:00 PM

Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
Perhaps it might apply to you?

Bolo wrote:
> Hello, Hello
>
> > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
>
> No I use Debian etch. When i this command
>
> # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> +---------------------------------------+
> | Connected! |
> | |
> | sql-statement |
> | help [tablename] |
> | quit |
> | |
> +---------------------------------------+
> SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> your db)
> +------------+-------------------------------+
> | id | login |
> +------------+-------------------------------+
> | 1 | user1 |
> | 3 | user2 |
> +------------+-------------------------------+
> 2 rows affected
> 2 rows returned
> SQL> quit
>
> it's working

Bolo

1/5/2007 5:29:00 PM

I don't the anwsers to his question

my db definition
$ nano /etc/odbc.ini

[Corporate]
Driver = FreeTDS
Description = ODBC connection via FreeTDS
Trace = No
Servername = Corporate
Database = FrontOffice

nano /etc/odbcinst.ini:

[FreeTDS]
Description = TDS driver (Sybase/MS SQL)
Driver = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsodbc.so
Setup = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsS.so
CPTimeout =
CPReuse =
FileUsage = 1

> Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
> thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
> http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
> Perhaps it might apply to you?
>
> Bolo wrote:
> > Hello, Hello
> >
> > > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
> >
> > No I use Debian etch. When i this command
> >
> > # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> > +---------------------------------------+
> > | Connected! |
> > | |
> > | sql-statement |
> > | help [tablename] |
> > | quit |
> > | |
> > +---------------------------------------+
> > SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> > your db)
> > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > | id | login |
> > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > | 1 | user1 |
> > | 3 | user2 |
> > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > 2 rows affected
> > 2 rows returned
> > SQL> quit
> >
> > it's working

greg.kujawa

1/5/2007 5:34:00 PM

I think a reply message in that thread pertained to file access perms
on those odbc files. Check the two ini files and ensure that the perms
are botching things up.

Bolo wrote:
> I don't the anwsers to his question
>
> my db definition
> $ nano /etc/odbc.ini
>
> [Corporate]
> Driver = FreeTDS
> Description = ODBC connection via FreeTDS
> Trace = No
> Servername = Corporate
> Database = FrontOffice
>
>
> nano /etc/odbcinst.ini:
>
>
> [FreeTDS]
> Description = TDS driver (Sybase/MS SQL)
> Driver = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsodbc.so
> Setup = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsS.so
> CPTimeout =
> CPReuse =
> FileUsage = 1
>
> > Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
> > thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
> > http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
> > Perhaps it might apply to you?
> >
> > Bolo wrote:
> > > Hello, Hello
> > >
> > > > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
> > >
> > > No I use Debian etch. When i this command
> > >
> > > # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > | Connected! |
> > > | |
> > > | sql-statement |
> > > | help [tablename] |
> > > | quit |
> > > | |
> > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> > > your db)
> > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > | id | login |
> > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > | 1 | user1 |
> > > | 3 | user2 |
> > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > 2 rows affected
> > > 2 rows returned
> > > SQL> quit
> > >
> > > it's working

Bolo

1/5/2007 5:57:00 PM

Ok Know i have this error message
irb(main):002:0> dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:ODBC:Corporate',
'*******','**********')
DBI::DatabaseError: S1000 (0) [unixODBC][FreeTDS][SQL Server]Unable to
connect to data source
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/DBD/ODBC/ODBC.rb:95:in `connect'
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:424:in `connect'
from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:215:in `connect'
from (irb):2
gregarican a ?crit :

> I think a reply message in that thread pertained to file access perms
> on those odbc files. Check the two ini files and ensure that the perms
> are botching things up.
>
> Bolo wrote:
> > I don't the anwsers to his question
> >
> > my db definition
> > $ nano /etc/odbc.ini
> >
> > [Corporate]
> > Driver = FreeTDS
> > Description = ODBC connection via FreeTDS
> > Trace = No
> > Servername = Corporate
> > Database = FrontOffice
> >
> >
> > nano /etc/odbcinst.ini:
> >
> >
> > [FreeTDS]
> > Description = TDS driver (Sybase/MS SQL)
> > Driver = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsodbc.so
> > Setup = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsS.so
> > CPTimeout =
> > CPReuse =
> > FileUsage = 1
> >
> > > Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
> > > thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
> > > http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
> > > Perhaps it might apply to you?
> > >
> > > Bolo wrote:
> > > > Hello, Hello
> > > >
> > > > > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
> > > >
> > > > No I use Debian etch. When i this command
> > > >
> > > > # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > | Connected! |
> > > > | |
> > > > | sql-statement |
> > > > | help [tablename] |
> > > > | quit |
> > > > | |
> > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> > > > your db)
> > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > | id | login |
> > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > | 1 | user1 |
> > > > | 3 | user2 |
> > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > 2 rows affected
> > > > 2 rows returned
> > > > SQL> quit
> > > >
> > > > it's working

greg.kujawa

1/5/2007 6:03:00 PM

I would suggest googling around the FreeTDS message boards. When I just
did it seems as if your situation isn't unique. Here's something that
was referred to in terms of ensuring that UNIX ODBC works in
conjunction with FreeTDS -->
http://www.freetds.org/userguide/odbcombo.htm#E.G.SAMPL.... HTH!

Bolo wrote:
> Ok Know i have this error message
> irb(main):002:0> dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:ODBC:Corporate',
> '*******','**********')
> DBI::DatabaseError: S1000 (0) [unixODBC][FreeTDS][SQL Server]Unable to
> connect to data source
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/DBD/ODBC/ODBC.rb:95:in `connect'
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:424:in `connect'
> from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:215:in `connect'
> from (irb):2
> gregarican a écrit :
>
> > I think a reply message in that thread pertained to file access perms
> > on those odbc files. Check the two ini files and ensure that the perms
> > are botching things up.
> >
> > Bolo wrote:
> > > I don't the anwsers to his question
> > >
> > > my db definition
> > > $ nano /etc/odbc.ini
> > >
> > > [Corporate]
> > > Driver = FreeTDS
> > > Description = ODBC connection via FreeTDS
> > > Trace = No
> > > Servername = Corporate
> > > Database = FrontOffice
> > >
> > >
> > > nano /etc/odbcinst.ini:
> > >
> > >
> > > [FreeTDS]
> > > Description = TDS driver (Sybase/MS SQL)
> > > Driver = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsodbc.so
> > > Setup = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsS.so
> > > CPTimeout =
> > > CPReuse =
> > > FileUsage = 1
> > >
> > > > Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
> > > > thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
> > > > http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
> > > > Perhaps it might apply to you?
> > > >
> > > > Bolo wrote:
> > > > > Hello, Hello
> > > > >
> > > > > > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
> > > > >
> > > > > No I use Debian etch. When i this command
> > > > >
> > > > > # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> > > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > > | Connected! |
> > > > > | |
> > > > > | sql-statement |
> > > > > | help [tablename] |
> > > > > | quit |
> > > > > | |
> > > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > > SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> > > > > your db)
> > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > | id | login |
> > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > | 1 | user1 |
> > > > > | 3 | user2 |
> > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > 2 rows affected
> > > > > 2 rows returned
> > > > > SQL> quit
> > > > >
> > > > > it's working

Bolo

1/5/2007 7:37:00 PM

Thanks For your help Now it's working
gregarican a écrit :

> I would suggest googling around the FreeTDS message boards. When I just
> did it seems as if your situation isn't unique. Here's something that
> was referred to in terms of ensuring that UNIX ODBC works in
> conjunction with FreeTDS -->
> http://www.freetds.org/userguide/odbcombo.htm#E.G.SAMPL.... HTH!
>
> Bolo wrote:
> > Ok Know i have this error message
> > irb(main):002:0> dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:ODBC:Corporate',
> > '*******','**********')
> > DBI::DatabaseError: S1000 (0) [unixODBC][FreeTDS][SQL Server]Unable to
> > connect to data source
> > from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/DBD/ODBC/ODBC.rb:95:in `connect'
> > from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:424:in `connect'
> > from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/dbi.rb:215:in `connect'
> > from (irb):2
> > gregarican a écrit :
> >
> > > I think a reply message in that thread pertained to file access perms
> > > on those odbc files. Check the two ini files and ensure that the perms
> > > are botching things up.
> > >
> > > Bolo wrote:
> > > > I don't the anwsers to his question
> > > >
> > > > my db definition
> > > > $ nano /etc/odbc.ini
> > > >
> > > > [Corporate]
> > > > Driver = FreeTDS
> > > > Description = ODBC connection via FreeTDS
> > > > Trace = No
> > > > Servername = Corporate
> > > > Database = FrontOffice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > nano /etc/odbcinst.ini:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [FreeTDS]
> > > > Description = TDS driver (Sybase/MS SQL)
> > > > Driver = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsodbc.so
> > > > Setup = /usr/lib/odbc/libtdsS.so
> > > > CPTimeout =
> > > > CPReuse =
> > > > FileUsage = 1
> > > >
> > > > > Hmmm. And you have UNIX ODBC loaded then I would assume too. Here's a
> > > > > thread I googled across in terms of Debian UNIX ODBC access -->
> > > > > http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-November/0....
> > > > > Perhaps it might apply to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bolo wrote:
> > > > > > Hello, Hello
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This might sound silly, but are you using a Windows-based PC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No I use Debian etch. When i this command
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # isql YOUR_DB_DEFINITION_NAME USERNAME PASSWORD
> > > > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > > > | Connected! |
> > > > > > | |
> > > > > > | sql-statement |
> > > > > > | help [tablename] |
> > > > > > | quit |
> > > > > > | |
> > > > > > +---------------------------------------+
> > > > > > SQL> select * from users; (again, do this for a table that exists in
> > > > > > your db)
> > > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > > | id | login |
> > > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > > | 1 | user1 |
> > > > > > | 3 | user2 |
> > > > > > +------------+-------------------------------+
> > > > > > 2 rows affected
> > > > > > 2 rows returned
> > > > > > SQL> quit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it's working

Gunner Asch

5/15/2013 6:42:00 AM

On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:58:36 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gma?l.com> wrote:

>On 5/14/2013 7:59 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 17:36:29 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
>> <jgkeegan@gma?l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2013 5:16 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 12:36:11 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 12:13 PM, Bryan "Zepp" Jamieson lied:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 13:48:30 -0400, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 08:42:28 -0400, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 18:05:24 -0500, Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2013 4:16 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 11:49:03 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 9:44 am, Transition Zone <mogu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 11, 10:22 pm, Mr. B1ack <nowh...@nada.net> wrote:> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sat,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 May 2013 20:21:10 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <d...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://thinkpro...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victims In Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion May Still Have To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pay Property Taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > And yet you think MORE govt bureaucracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >is gonna make life 'better' somehow? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The town of West, Texas didn't even have a fire code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So when is someone going to figure out that both George Bushes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had plenty of opportunity to fix this problem before it blew up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And have any of the owners of the fertilizer plant been put in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jail yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They haven't even been charged with a crime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Texas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was there an actual *crime* at all ???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Criminal investigation taking place now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From wikipedia;
>>>>>>>>>>> 'According to the company's insurer, United States Fire Insurance
>>>>>>>>>>> of Morristown, New Jersey, the plant only had US$1 million in
>>>>>>>>>>> liability insurance. By nearly all estimates, this will not even
>>>>>>>>>>> begin to cover the damages. According to The Dallas Morning News,
>>>>>>>>>>> Texas law allows fertilizer plants to operate without any liability
>>>>>>>>>>> insurance at all, even when they have highly explosive chemicals.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ammonium nitrate is not generally considered to be "highly
>>>>>>>>>> explosive". It's not like gunpowder or hydrogen or natural gas.
>>>>>>>>>> It has to be seriously provoked before it'll actually detonate.
>>>>>>>>>> There have been a lot more, bigger, explosions from places that
>>>>>>>>>> store propane or welding gasses than from AN plants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can be triggered by fire, or the presence of ammonia, urea, or all
>>>>>>>>> three, as in this case. And as you can see both here and OKC, it can
>>>>>>>>> make for a pretty goddam big explosion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Accidents happen ... and regulations of smaller chemical
>>>>>>>>>>>> plants aren't always very complete.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This one hadn't had an OSHA inspection since 1985.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's on OSHA ... not the company. OSHA decides when it will
>>>>>>>>>> inspect and what it will inspect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OSHA has one inspector for every 28,000 workers now, thanks to budget
>>>>>>>>> cuts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um ... the 'cuts' (more a decrease in the rate of increase) only
>>>>>>>> started just this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, get off of it! The GOP have been steadily slicing OSHA to death
>>>>>>> since the 1980s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shut your fucking yap, jamieson. Did you not read that it hasn't been
>>>>>> inspected since 1985? That includes eight years of Billy Blowjob's
>>>>>> administration and another four years of Barry Soetoro's.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what decade is 1985 in? Wasn't it the 80s?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good boy! I knew you could figure it out!
>>>>
>>>> So Reagan had it inspected then. So 8 yrs of Clinton couldnt find the
>>>> time, Bush couldnt find the time and Obama couldnt find the time
>>>>
>>>> Odd..thats...2 Democrats..IE 16 yrs...right?
>>>
>>> 12 years, you stupid civics-ignorant innumerate shitstain.
>>
>> You mean that OSHA would have sent inspectors in the last 3 yrs of
>> Obamas administration?
>
>I mean that you can't fucking count. Since 1985, there have been 12
>years of Democrat administrations, not 16.

So far. <VBG> So you are claiming Obama would have sent out the
inspectors in the last 3 yrs of his term...right? When he is
downsizing OSHA. Is that your claim?
>
>You're innumerate, and you don't have a fucking clue about civics.

Laugh laugh laugh! Its Clintons Fault...right?

Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid? to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

james g. keegan jr.

5/15/2013 2:38:00 PM

On 5/14/2013 11:40 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:00:27 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
> <jgkeegan@gma?l.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 8:08 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 01:38:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 17:36:29 -0700, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2013 5:16 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 12:36:11 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 12:13 PM, Bryan "Zepp" Jamieson lied:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 13:48:30 -0400, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 08:42:28 -0400, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 18:05:24 -0500, Unum
>>>>>>>>>>>> <noneof@yourbusiness.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2013 4:16 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <dead@gone.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 11:49:03 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 9:44 am, Transition Zone <mogu...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 11, 10:22 pm, Mr. B1ack <nowh...@nada.net> wrote:> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sat,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 May 2013 20:21:10 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <d...@gone.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://thinkpro...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victims In Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion May Still Have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Pay Property Taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > And yet you think MORE govt bureaucracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >is gonna make life 'better' somehow? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The town of West, Texas didn't even have a fire code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So when is someone going to figure out that both George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bushes had plenty of opportunity to fix this problem before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it blew up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And have any of the owners of the fertilizer plant been put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in jail yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They haven't even been charged with a crime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is Texas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was there an actual *crime* at all ???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Criminal investigation taking place now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From wikipedia;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'According to the company's insurer, United States Fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Insurance of Morristown, New Jersey, the plant only had US$1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> million in liability insurance. By nearly all estimates, this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not even begin to cover the damages. According to The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dallas Morning News, Texas law allows fertilizer plants to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operate without any liability insurance at all, even when they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have highly explosive chemicals.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ammonium nitrate is not generally considered to be "highly
>>>>>>>>>>>> explosive". It's not like gunpowder or hydrogen or natural
>>>>>>>>>>>> gas.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It has to be seriously provoked before it'll actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> detonate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There have been a lot more, bigger, explosions from places
>>>>>>>>>>>> that store propane or welding gasses than from AN plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It can be triggered by fire, or the presence of ammonia, urea, or
>>>>>>>>>>> all three, as in this case. And as you can see both here and OKC,
>>>>>>>>>>> it can make for a pretty goddam big explosion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accidents happen ... and regulations of smaller chemical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plants aren't always very complete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one hadn't had an OSHA inspection since 1985.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's on OSHA ... not the company. OSHA decides when it
>>>>>>>>>>>> will inspect and what it will inspect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OSHA has one inspector for every 28,000 workers now, thanks to
>>>>>>>>>>> budget cuts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Um ... the 'cuts' (more a decrease in the rate of increase)
>>>>>>>>>> only started just this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, get off of it! The GOP have been steadily slicing OSHA to death
>>>>>>>>> since the 1980s.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shut your fucking yap, jamieson. Did you not read that it hasn't
>>>>>>>> been inspected since 1985? That includes eight years of Billy
>>>>>>>> Blowjob's administration and another four years of Barry Soetoro's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what decade is 1985 in? Wasn't it the 80s?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good boy! I knew you could figure it out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So Reagan had it inspected then. So 8 yrs of Clinton couldnt find the
>>>>>> time, Bush couldnt find the time and Obama couldnt find the time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd..thats...2 Democrats..IE 16 yrs...right?

Wrong, fuckstain. 12 years of Democrats, 14 years of Republicans.

>>>>>
>>>>> 12 years, you stupid civics-ignorant innumerate shitstain.
>>>>
>>>> The poor dumb bastard apparently thinks presidents should personally
>>>> inspect each and every potentially dangerous plant in America.
>>>>
>>>> And you wonder that he can't count to eleven without pulling off a shoe?
>>>
>>>
>>> And the poor dumb communist bastards apparently think that an
>>> executive order wouldnt have done it either....right?
>>
>> So why the fuck are you blabbering stupidly about how many years the
>> Democrats controlled Congress, you dumb fat fucking pillock?
>
> Because it was a Republican who had them inspected last...and there
> have been a single Republican since then..but (2)...two...two Democrat
> presidents since then.

Doesn't change that your arithmetic is wrong, fuckstain. Sinc 1985,
there have been 14 years of Republican administration, and only 12 years
of Democratic administration. You said there were 16 years of
Democratic administrations. You don't know your HIV-oozing ass from
your meth-mouth face.

OSHA and other regulatory agencies are under control of the president,
not of Congress.

> And since you fucktards claim that Bush was a brainless
> idiot...obviouisly those (2)...two two Demonrat presidents were just
> as brainless. So its Clintons fault..right? Or Obama's?

You have BSE, don't you? Those are English words, but it's not English.

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