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Jeff Toth

11/28/2006 6:32:00 PM

Why won't Ruby just install from the port? I don't know what Ruby is,
what it is for, all I know is that it has our live webserver down
because it has removed some shared file that is keeping Apache from
running. All I tried to do was update Ruby using portupgrade and now
portupgrade will not function either. Is there any way to fix this
quickly? I also received an error that says that 'touch' is not
supported by FileUtils but I cannot get that error message to repeat. I
read that 'touch' is supported so I do not understand. Thanks.



rbconfig.rb unchanged
/mkconfig.rb:157: [BUG] Unknown longjmp status -1077937364
ruby 1.8.5 {2006-08-25} [i386-freebsd5]

The offending code from mkconfig.rb:

end
if String === $timestamp
FileUtils.touch($timestamp}
end

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11 Answers

Michael Hernandez

11/28/2006 6:42:00 PM

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On Nov 28, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jeff Toth wrote:

> Why won't Ruby just install from the port? I don't know what Ruby is,
> what it is for, all I know is that it has our live webserver down
> because it has removed some shared file that is keeping Apache from
> running. All I tried to do was update Ruby using portupgrade and now
> portupgrade will not function either. Is there any way to fix this
> quickly? I also received an error that says that 'touch' is not
> supported by FileUtils but I cannot get that error message to
> repeat. I
> read that 'touch' is supported so I do not understand. Thanks.
>

sounds like you may want to contact freebsd-questions or the port
maintainer. I've used freebsd in the past and I can tell you that
portupgrade does indeed use ruby, so if your ruby installation is not
functioning properly you won't be able to use that. Unless there are
some ruby/freebsd gurus here (which there very well may be...) you
will need to give your error information to the freebsd-questions
list or the maintainer of the ruby port.

Mike

Paul Lutus

11/28/2006 6:51:00 PM

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Jeff Toth wrote:

> Why won't Ruby just install from the port? I don't know what Ruby is,
> what it is for, all I know is that it has our live webserver down
> because it has removed some shared file that is keeping Apache from
> running. All I tried to do was update Ruby using portupgrade and now
> portupgrade will not function either. Is there any way to fix this
> quickly? I also received an error that says that 'touch' is not
> supported by FileUtils but I cannot get that error message to repeat. I
> read that 'touch' is supported so I do not understand. Thanks.

As one computer professional to another, I offer this advice: revert to your
backup.

Also, Ruby 1.8.5 has some problems. I personally recommend that people stick
with 1.8.4 unless they are intent on helping with the development of Ruby
itself. This is MERELY a PERSONAL OPINION.

Another personal note. I tried to install Fedora Core 6 recently. It has
Ruby 1.8.5. Ruby 1.8.5 would not cooperate with the Qt library. I quickly
realized that I couldn't revert to 1.8.4 without completely breaking a
large number of dependencies, and I couldn't fix the Ruby/Qt interface, and
I couldn't revert Qt to an earlier version because of the degree to which
KDE relies on Qt. And I have a large number of Ruby programs that rely on
the Qt library.

I gave up and went back to Fedora Code 5.

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Wilson Bilkovich

11/28/2006 6:56:00 PM

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On 11/28/06, Jeff Toth <jeff@reversespeech.com> wrote:
> Why won't Ruby just install from the port? I don't know what Ruby is,
> what it is for, all I know is that it has our live webserver down
> because it has removed some shared file that is keeping Apache from
> running. All I tried to do was update Ruby using portupgrade and now
> portupgrade will not function either. Is there any way to fix this
> quickly? I also received an error that says that 'touch' is not
> supported by FileUtils but I cannot get that error message to repeat. I
> read that 'touch' is supported so I do not understand. Thanks.
>
>
>
> rbconfig.rb unchanged
> ./mkconfig.rb:157: [BUG] Unknown longjmp status -1077937364
> ruby 1.8.5 {2006-08-25} [i386-freebsd5]
>
> The offending code from mkconfig.rb:
>
> end
> if String === $timestamp
> FileUtils.touch($timestamp}
> end
>

What happens if you cd to the Ruby port directory, and type 'make install' ?

Along with that, Michael's advice is good.

Eric Hodel

11/28/2006 7:17:00 PM

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On Nov 28, 2006, at 1055 , Paul Lutus wrote:
> Also, Ruby 1.8.5 has some problems. I personally recommend that
> people stick
> with 1.8.4 unless they are intent on helping with the development
> of Ruby
> itself. This is MERELY a PERSONAL OPINION.

What problems?

Have you filed bugs at the tracker:

http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?atid=1698&group_id=426&f...

I'd really like to know so I can fix them.

I have had zero problems with 1.8.5.

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Jeff Toth

11/28/2006 7:18:00 PM

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Wilson Bilkovich wrote:
> On 11/28/06, Jeff Toth <jeff@reversespeech.com> wrote:
>>
>>
> What happens if you cd to the Ruby port directory, and type 'make
> install' ?
>
> Along with that, Michael's advice is good.

That is where I probably got into trouble was when Ruby failed to
update, I tried make deinstall, make reinstall, and then make install,
cleaning and rebooting each time but they all result in the same error.
I have sent off and email to the maintainer of the port, no response
thus far, I also, after spending several hours of trying to figure out
which email list to post to on FreeBSD, sent off 3 emails that never
went through. So I sent a test email that went through and instead of
asking if I am having trouble with the list, they promptly jumped down
my throat and blacklisted me as if I have nothing better to do than send
them test emails so I won't be trying them anymore.

I appreciate your responses greatly though but I guess this is just too
hard for a newbie like me and I don't seem to have any luck installing
this stuff as it seems that these ports always error out and never just
install.

I got it to give me the other error that I get by trying to reinstall
portupgrade, just for your reference:

rbconfig.rb updated
/mkconfig.rb:157: undefined method `touch' for FileUtils:Module
(NoMethodError)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.5.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade

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Paul Lutus

11/28/2006 7:42:00 PM

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Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Nov 28, 2006, at 1055 , Paul Lutus wrote:
>> Also, Ruby 1.8.5 has some problems. I personally recommend that
>> people stick
>> with 1.8.4 unless they are intent on helping with the development
>> of Ruby
>> itself. This is MERELY a PERSONAL OPINION.
>
> What problems?

See below for a Google list link.

Maybe someone will write an automated Usenet scraper to filter all the
reports of 1.8.5 difficulties and assemble them into a coherent summary
that removes what are obviously user problems, not Ruby problems.

In the meantime, there are any number of 1.8.5-related reports in the
archive for this newsgroup. See below.

> Have you filed bugs at the tracker:
>
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?atid=1698&group_id=426&f...

As to a problem that prevents 1.8.5 from working with the Qt library, I
wouldn't dream of filing against Ruby's code on this. It is far too complex
to make that assumption. It is no less completely broken, but it could turn
out to be a problem with Qt, or the interface class, whatever.

But this is not the norm for 1.8.5 difficulties, many of which can be
demonstrated using command-line applications (and as the messages show in
the Google list below).

> I'd really like to know so I can fix them.
>
> I have had zero problems with 1.8.5.

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=1.8.5+proble...*ruby*

This is obviously an undigested list, and only a small percentage actually
refer to bugs in 1.8.5 as opposed to user difficulties, but there are quite
a few that show intrinsic 1.8.5 problems.

--
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http://www.ara...

Eric Hodel

11/28/2006 7:45:00 PM

0

On Nov 28, 2006, at 1117 , Jeff Toth wrote:
> I got it to give me the other error that I get by trying to reinstall
> portupgrade, just for your reference:
>
> rbconfig.rb updated
> ./mkconfig.rb:157: undefined method `touch' for FileUtils:Module
> (NoMethodError)
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.5.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade

$ pkg_info | grep ruby-
ruby-1.8.5_4,1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language
$ ruby -v
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd6]
$ ruby -rfileutils -e 'FileUtils.touch "x"'
$ ll x
-rw-r--r-- 1 drbrain drbrain 0 Nov 28 11:32 x
$ date
Tue Nov 28 11:32:29 PST 2006
$ portupgrade --version
portupgrade 2.0.1
$ uname -a
FreeBSD ziz.jijo.segment7.net 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon
May 29 21:07:21 PDT 2006 root@ziz.jijo.segment7.net:/usr/obj/usr/
src/sys/GENERIC i386

What does yours say, do?

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Eric Hodel

11/28/2006 7:53:00 PM

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On Nov 28, 2006, at 1145 , Paul Lutus wrote:
> Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Nov 28, 2006, at 1055 , Paul Lutus wrote:
>>> Also, Ruby 1.8.5 has some problems. I personally recommend that
>>> people stick
>>> with 1.8.4 unless they are intent on helping with the development
>>> of Ruby
>>> itself. This is MERELY a PERSONAL OPINION.
>>
>> What problems?
>
> See below for a Google list link.
>
> Maybe someone will write an automated Usenet scraper to filter all the
> reports of 1.8.5 difficulties and assemble them into a coherent
> summary
> that removes what are obviously user problems, not Ruby problems.
>
> In the meantime, there are any number of 1.8.5-related reports in the
> archive for this newsgroup. See below.
>
>> Have you filed bugs at the tracker:
>>
>> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?atid=1698&group_id=426&f...
>
> As to a problem that prevents 1.8.5 from working with the Qt
> library, I
> wouldn't dream of filing against Ruby's code on this. It is far too
> complex
> to make that assumption. It is no less completely broken, but it
> could turn
> out to be a problem with Qt, or the interface class, whatever.
>
> But this is not the norm for 1.8.5 difficulties, many of which can be
> demonstrated using command-line applications (and as the messages
> show in
> the Google list below).

Granted, but if you could narrow down the problem somebody might be
able to fix it.

>> I'd really like to know so I can fix them.
>>
>> I have had zero problems with 1.8.5.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=1.8.5+proble...*ruby*
>
> This is obviously an undigested list, and only a small percentage
> actually
> refer to bugs in 1.8.5 as opposed to user difficulties, but there
> are quite
> a few that show intrinsic 1.8.5 problems.

The list shows 150, and a small percentage is under 10%, so under 15
problems.

I'm sure that offhand you can name 1 of the 15 off the top of your
head. Can you file a bug for it?

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Jeff Toth

11/28/2006 7:54:00 PM

0

Eric Hodel wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 1117 , Jeff Toth wrote:
>>
>> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18.
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
>
> $ pkg_info | grep ruby-
> ruby-1.8.5_4,1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language
> $ ruby -v
> ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd6]
> $ ruby -rfileutils -e 'FileUtils.touch "x"'
> $ ll x
> -rw-r--r-- 1 drbrain drbrain 0 Nov 28 11:32 x
> $ date
> Tue Nov 28 11:32:29 PST 2006
> $ portupgrade --version
> portupgrade 2.0.1
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD ziz.jijo.segment7.net 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon
> May 29 21:07:21 PDT 2006 root@ziz.jijo.segment7.net:/usr/obj/usr/
> src/sys/GENERIC i386
>
> What does yours say, do?
>
> --
> Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://blog.se...
> This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant
>
> http://trackmap.rob...


$ pkg_info | grep ruby
ruby-1.6.8.2004.07.28_2 An object-oriented interpreted scripting
language
ruby16-shim-ruby18-1.8.1.p3 A set of Ruby modules to provide Ruby 1.8
functionalities
ruby18-usersguide-20051121_1 Ruby users guide, in HTML format

$ ruby -v
su: ruby: command not found



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John W Kennedy

11/29/2006 5:23:00 AM

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Eric Hodel wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 1055 , Paul Lutus wrote:
>> Also, Ruby 1.8.5 has some problems. I personally recommend that people
>> stick
>> with 1.8.4 unless they are intent on helping with the development of Ruby
>> itself. This is MERELY a PERSONAL OPINION.
>
> What problems?
>
> Have you filed bugs at the tracker:
>
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?atid=1698&group_id=426&f...
>
> I'd really like to know so I can fix them.
>
> I have had zero problems with 1.8.5.

I don't know where the problem lies, but 1.8.5 as installed by 1.8.5-21
of the One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows fails catastrophically with
used with the IFMapper gem, which works fine with 1.8.4-20, and there is
a report that rubyw.exe fails generally.

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Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
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