Asp Forum - Re: Just a question to throw out there...

Skotty

11/3/2006 5:13:00 PM

I looked at Perl briefly and all the {'s kind of make me nervous.
It seems like Ruby is kind of straight foward in a way (correct me if
i'm wrong) and I shouldn't have *too* much trouble figuring it out but
like I said I've never programmed before. The closest to any kind of
"programming" is sudo apt-get on Ubuntu or using bash at all. And that's
a stretch. I'd love to learn a language mostly to say I've done it. And
mostly because well, I can't say I've done anything else in my life. har
har.

I guess I'll just review and review and go over and over again until I
get things right and can do it without thinking about it, or try the
"create what you want" suggestion and learn head on. That seems to be
the only way I'll learn anything anymore.

Skt
On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 02:06 +0900, Hartin, Brian wrote:
> Skotty,
>
> Don't be discouraged. Ruby is *far* from the easiest language to learn,
> especially when compared to languages like Java (the language itself,
> not the complicated frameworks like J2EE). I think Ruby aims to make
> hard things easy for advanced programmers, while perhaps falling down a
> bit in making easy things easy for junior programmers. :) As you've
> seen, passing blocks of code as arguments comes up fairly early in the
> reading. This is a fairly advanced idea for someone new to programming.
> Ruby also borrows a lot of tricks from languages like PERL which are
> famous for cramming entire applications into twenty lines of code. In
> many languages it's considered bad style to do 10 things in one line of
> code, but in Ruby it seems par for the course. In my opinion this would
> make it especially hard to learn for someone who doesn't have a
> programming background.
>
> On the other hand, Ruby allows you to do some really cool things which
> would be much more difficult or impossible in other languages. Ruby on
> Rails, for example.
>
> My advice to you is to use IRB, take small steps, and if you get totally
> discouraged, try another language.
>
> Brian Hartin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skotty [mailto:shyguyfrenzy@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:07 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: Just a question to throw out there...
>
> I was alright with blocks, and then along came these @ and several other
>
> things, and def/classes and so forth. I guess it all boils down to how
> much
> dedication I'm actually willing to put into it. Which at this moment is
> high, but I've been known to drop something after a short period of
> time.
>
> But I'm GOING to stick with this, to learn it and perhaps start other
> languages.
>
> But for now, I guess I'll just keep reading the tutorials and try that
> problem solving thing, and pounding them out.
>
> BTW thanks for all the great responses, this is what I like to see in a
> community. :D
>
> Skt
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Conn" <bob.conn@btinternet.com>
> To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Just a question to throw out there...
>
>
> >
> > If it's any consolation, I'm a programmer and am finding Ruby tricky
> to
> > pick up. There are some powerful concepts in there like blocks and
> > iterators that are new to me.
> >
> > Keep at it and you'll pick it up ... as someone recommended above,
> > choosing a problem that you want to solve will keep you interested.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On 2 Nov 2006, at 18:23, Skotty wrote:
> >
> >> Another noobrube question.
> >>
> >> Is this the "easiest" language to learn? I'm well aware that none of
>
> >> these programming languages are "easy" but I've been struggling with
>
> >> this for a while and don't want to give up.
> >>
> >> Or is there something else I should know first BEFORE going to Ruby?
>
> >> Why's guide is a biggggg help but I don't know why I can't retain
> this
> >> information.
> >>
> >> Any help guides?
> >> Anything?
> >
> >
>
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Re: Just a question to throw out there...

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