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Picking a GUI toolkit for use with Ruby on windows

Mischa Kroon

10/30/2006 7:42:00 PM

Hi guys,

I'm wondering which GUI toolkit I should use for experimenting with GUI
programming with windows.

My selectionpoints:
Free for non commercial use
A graphical designer
Simple to use
Not 2 awfull to look at
Runs on the windows platform

It's nice if it also runs on other platforms but I can live without them :)

Would RubyCLR be a good option or should I look at other roads ?

Regards,

Mischa
9 Answers

Michael Trier

10/30/2006 8:19:00 PM

0

> I'm wondering which GUI toolkit I should use for experimenting with GUI
> programming with windows.
>
> My selectionpoints:
> Free for non commercial use
> A graphical designer
> Simple to use
> Not 2 awfull to look at
> Runs on the windows platform
>
> It's nice if it also runs on other platforms but I can live without them :)
>
> Would RubyCLR be a good option or should I look at other roads ?

RubyCLR will do what you need. You can use the visual designer in VS
or the VisualStudio Express Edition to get going quickly. The only
thing to be sure of is that your controls will need to be public
accessible or you will not be able to get to them from Ruby. John Lam
has more information on designing this way on his blog at
www.iunknown.com.

Michael Trier

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

10/30/2006 8:31:00 PM

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Mischa Kroon wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm wondering which GUI toolkit I should use for experimenting with GUI
> programming with windows.
>
> My selection points:
> Free for non commercial use
> A graphical designer
> Simple to use
> Not 2 awful to look at
> Runs on the windows platform

Ruby/Tk is probably your best bet to start with. Given that FreeRide is
bundled in the One-Click Installer, Fox is another possibility. I've
forgotten what the graphical designers for those toolkits are called,
but I know they exist.

QT4 is in my opinion the best looking and has the best designer. But I
don't think the Ruby/QT4 interface is fully baked yet (if someone from
the QTRuby team is here, I'd *love* for you to prove me wrong here!).

You might also want to consider getting ActiveState's Komodo IDE. I'd
wait until 4.0 is released, though -- 3.5 is on the way out and 4.0 is
in beta. It's a tad expensive -- $250, although they have a lower cost
"personal edition".

> It's nice if it also runs on other platforms but I can live without them :)

>
> Would RubyCLR be a good option or should I look at other roads ?

There are actually now *three* Ruby - .NET environments to choose from,
plus jRuby if you like the Java way. I'm not at all familiar with .NET,
so I won't pretend to evaluate them.

Jamey Cribbs

10/30/2006 8:44:00 PM

0

Mischa Kroon wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm wondering which GUI toolkit I should use for experimenting with GUI
> programming with windows.
>
> My selectionpoints:
> Free for non commercial use
> A graphical designer
> Simple to use
> Not 2 awfull to look at
> Runs on the windows platform
>
> It's nice if it also runs on other platforms but I can live without them :)
>
Ruby/Gtk2 meets all of these requirements. :-)

I've used it to develop Windows apps at my current job and they have
been working fine for months. I think it looks fine on Windows.

HTH,

Jamey

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Vincent Fourmond

10/30/2006 8:55:00 PM

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> QT4 is in my opinion the best looking and has the best designer. But I
> don't think the Ruby/QT4 interface is fully baked yet (if someone from
> the QTRuby team is here, I'd *love* for you to prove me wrong here!).

Well, I'm not developping QtRuby, just packaging it (Debian), and I
would like to hear what you think is missing - or painfull - with the
current versions ? [just, if that has to do with the way it builds under
windows, I'm afraid I can't be of any help]. I agree the ModelView stuff
needs a bit more polishing, but I didn't come across other problems so
far (well, except one I think I fixed).

Cheers !

Vince

--
Vincent Fourmond, PhD student
http://vincent.fourmon...

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

10/30/2006 9:15:00 PM

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Vincent Fourmond wrote:
> M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> QT4 is in my opinion the best looking and has the best designer. But I
>> don't think the Ruby/QT4 interface is fully baked yet (if someone from
>> the QTRuby team is here, I'd *love* for you to prove me wrong here!).
>
> Well, I'm not developping QtRuby, just packaging it (Debian), and I
> would like to hear what you think is missing - or painfull - with the
> current versions ? [just, if that has to do with the way it builds under
> windows, I'm afraid I can't be of any help]. I agree the ModelView stuff
> needs a bit more polishing, but I didn't come across other problems so
> far (well, except one I think I fixed).
>
> Cheers !
>
> Vince
>
QT4? I know the QT3 Ruby interface is solid, but QT4 is the only usable
version for Windows -- I think it's a licensing issue, not a technical one.

Vincent Fourmond

10/30/2006 9:51:00 PM

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> QT4? I know the QT3 Ruby interface is solid, but QT4 is the only usable
> version for Windows -- I think it's a licensing issue, not a technical one.

I speak about Qt4, which I'm using everyday (on Linux). Apart from a
few glitches, it really works great for me. I confirm that you
definitely can't get qt3 on windows, as Trolltech didn't publish a GPL
version of Qt3 for windows, and never will. So you would need a Qt3
license to develop qtruby and to use it. Better use Qt4 ;-)

Vince
--
Vincent Fourmond, PhD student
http://vincent.fourmon...

Curt Hibbs

10/30/2006 10:50:00 PM

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On 10/30/06, Mischa Kroon <www@bloggingabout.net> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm wondering which GUI toolkit I should use for experimenting with GUI
> programming with windows.
>
> My selectionpoints:
> Free for non commercial use
> A graphical designer
> Simple to use
> Not 2 awfull to look at
> Runs on the windows platform
>
> It's nice if it also runs on other platforms but I can live without them :)
>
> Would RubyCLR be a good option or should I look at other roads ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mischa

If you don't need cross platform, then you'll probably like VRuby
(Windows only), which is included in the One-Click Ruby installer for
Windows. You can read about VRuby here:

http://www.threeweb.ad.jp/~nyasu/vruby/vrproj...

Curt

David Vallner

10/30/2006 11:29:00 PM

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Curt Hibbs wrote:
> If you don't need cross platform, then you'll probably like VRuby
> (Windows only), which is included in the One-Click Ruby installer for
> Windows. You can read about VRuby here:
>
> http://www.threeweb.ad.jp/~nyasu/vruby/vrproj...
>

That page scares the heck out of me. Weird magical constants that are
gods know why not defined in the toolkit? camelCase method names?

Though if I guess right, VRuby is a wrapper around the Win32 API, so the
lot probably makes enough sense for someone that worked with that. For
someone who doesn't have low-level Win32 experience, it's probably not
quite the best pick.

David Vallner

Luke Graham

10/31/2006 4:50:00 PM

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If you mean the sample scripts (
http://www.threeweb.ad.jp/~nyasu/vruby/vrproject-... ), are you
sure you aren't looking at the 'swin' version? I think it's just
posted as a comparison, the VRuby one doesn't seem so nasty. Not that
I've ever used either one, of course.

On 10/30/06, David Vallner <david@vallner.net> wrote:
> Curt Hibbs wrote:
> > If you don't need cross platform, then you'll probably like VRuby
> > (Windows only), which is included in the One-Click Ruby installer for
> > Windows. You can read about VRuby here:
> >
> > http://www.threeweb.ad.jp/~nyasu/vruby/vrproj...
> >
>
> That page scares the heck out of me. Weird magical constants that are
> gods know why not defined in the toolkit? camelCase method names?
>
> Though if I guess right, VRuby is a wrapper around the Win32 API, so the
> lot probably makes enough sense for someone that worked with that. For
> someone who doesn't have low-level Win32 experience, it's probably not
> quite the best pick.
>
> David Vallner
>
>
>
>