George Plimpton
9/26/2013 6:03:00 AM
On 9/25/2013 9:22 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:53:57 -0700, George Plimpton <george@si.not>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/25/2013 7:06 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:45:51 -0400, Sancho Panza
>>> <otterpower@xhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/24/2013 11:39 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
>>>>> Sancho Panza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/19/2013 12:12 AM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:42:08 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>>>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GOP_Decline_and_Fall <Dev@null.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:69sk39to6pb3nrd53ss2k2pg360jl6c33l@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:33:18 -0400, Sancho Panza
>>>>>>>>> <otterpower@xhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/18/2013 11:05 PM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:05:52 -0500, AlleyCat <alley@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:30:32 -0600, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The law was broken (FL State law) the minute the Zimmerloon chased
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Martin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No law against trying to FIND a suspect for the Police, moron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "rules" were broken by the Zimmerloon for: a) Following, b)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carrying weapon, c) attempting to restrain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What rules? Zimmerman was NOT "on duty" for Neighborhood Watch, that
>>>>>>>>>>>> night. He was going to Target, idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no law against carrying a gun, if you are licensed to do so,
>>>>>>>>>>>> liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attempting to restrain? BWAHAHAHAHA What law? GZ was not on duty
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> NW, and you can restrain a suspect all you want! What a loon, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get real.
>>>>>>>>>>> You certainly cannot restrain a minor all you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's called kidnapping.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There was absolutely not a scintilla of evidence about any restraining
>>>>>>>>>> of Martin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Other than the witnesses and Zimmerman's own confession you mean?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When did Zimmerman state that he restrained Martin?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the re-enactment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..and then somebody came with a flashlight and I thought it was a
>>>>>>> police officer, so I said, ?Are you the police?? and I thou...?I still
>>>>>>> had my gun out, and I said are you the police, my guns right here, and
>>>>>>> he said no, no I?m not?I?m calling the police, and I said don?t call
>>>>>>> the police, help me restrain this guy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> An out-and-out lie. Nowhere in the 25:26 minutes of Mamalo's direct
>>>>>> testimony nor in 21:22 of cross-examination was restrain or any
>>>>>> reference to that ever made.
>>>>>> As a matter of fact, toward the end of the direct testimony he responded
>>>>>> to a question that Zimmerman had never even glanced at Martin's body.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are Zimmerman's own words.
>>>>>
>>>> Not at the trial, and that is what the judge and jury determined stands.
>>>
>>> The re-enactment certainly WAS played for the jury in the Zimmerman
>>> murder trial.
>>
>> Allowed by the prosecution, i.e., the state attorneys who overcharged
>> and incompetently managed the case - *not* because they wanted Zimmerman
>> to "get off", but because they were just incompetent fat fucks.
>
> At the end of the day the bottom line is
The bottom line is:
* Traycon, the thug, was the aggressor
* George Zimmerman shot Traycon - the thug aggressor - in self defense
* Zimmerman was, justly, found not guilty by the jury, which did indeed
consider all evidence and applicable law