Asp Forum - Ruby Cookbook review

zoat

10/5/2006 6:52:00 PM

Because of the recent and sudden interest in Ruby on Rails, there is
quite a demand for books that can help people learn to program
efficiently in Ruby. Though the language itself encourages fast
learning and a high degree of programmer productivity, there are still
a number of commonly solved problems and frequently written algorithms
that you shouldn't need to reinvent to start programming in Ruby. And
-- as usual -- that's where the O'Reilly Cookbook series comes in.
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content...

15 Answers

darren kirby

10/5/2006 9:46:00 PM

quoth the Justin Bailey:
> On 10/5/06, zoat <enogrob@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Because of the recent and sudden interest in Ruby on Rails, there is
>
> Does anyone else think these posts are coming from some sort of automated
> scraper? I don't know that I've ever seen "zoat" reply to anything, and
> they all have such a similar format. In fact, searching for
> enogrob@hotmail.comfinds some very similar looking postings in other
> domains.
>
> If it is, I'm impressed. Seems to work pretty well!
>
> If it isn't, my apologies!
>
> Justin

Yeah, I think the general consensus is that zoat is a bot. Whether or not Xah
Lee is a bot is another question ;)

-d
--
darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badco...
"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

James Gray

10/5/2006 10:13:00 PM

On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:45 PM, darren kirby wrote:

> Yeah, I think the general consensus is that zoat is a bot.

I believe a bot posts the articles, but there has been at least one
live post:

http://rubyu...

James Edward Gray II

David Vallner

10/5/2006 11:30:00 PM

Umm. You know, there's fully functional adult people subscribed to this
mailing list that are indeed capable to track subjects they're
interested in without having someone else feed them links and do the
chore of copy / pasting the intro blurb to it.

Now, unless you can prove you're an actual person and provide, OMG,
actual original content like your thoughts on the linked-to article, I'm
afraid I'll have to move you to my special folder for on-target relevant
content that matches my browsing habits, NUL.

David Vallner

zoat

10/6/2006 12:25:00 PM

....I think I can answer that myself. Why are you so concerned with
that?

I am not concerned about you all but the community and be able also to
participate.

Is stated somewere in this community that I cannot post some news are
you all not interested in that? What kind of community is that? My
interested ranges everything about Ruby.

You can classify a post if you want but why do that with the people
behind?

If you want to know further about me, I am responsible for the
corporative RUG inside Ericsson and if I am not welcome here please say
so. For me a user group is about collaboration, but as I can see here
is that most of you seemed to be arrogant people.

Sorry by that.

Roberto Nogueira

darren kirby wrote:
> quoth the Justin Bailey:
> > On 10/5/06, zoat <enogrob@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Because of the recent and sudden interest in Ruby on Rails, there is
> >
> > Does anyone else think these posts are coming from some sort of automated
> > scraper? I don't know that I've ever seen "zoat" reply to anything, and
> > they all have such a similar format. In fact, searching for
> > enogrob@hotmail.comfinds some very similar looking postings in other
> > domains.
> >
> > If it is, I'm impressed. Seems to work pretty well!
> >
> > If it isn't, my apologies!
> >
> > Justin
>
> Yeah, I think the general consensus is that zoat is a bot. Whether or not Xah
> Lee is a bot is another question ;)
>
> -d
> --
> darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badco...
> "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
> - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

Thomas Adam

10/6/2006 12:34:00 PM

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:25:16 +0900
"zoat" <enogrob@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is stated somewere in this community that I cannot post some news are
> you all not interested in that? What kind of community is that? My
> interested ranges everything about Ruby.

Whilst I generally find it useful at times, bear in mind that this is
already a high-traffic mailing list when concentrating on ruby matters
per se. The fact that you're posting fringe snippets in the hope that
some of us might find it "useful" is a little hit and miss.

If people wanted a "Oooh, look what I've found" mailing list, they
could use an RSS feed which you yourself could set up. Wouldn't be
that hard -- I am sure the large organisation you work for knows how to
do that.

-- Thomas Adam

Alex Young

10/6/2006 12:48:00 PM

zoat wrote:
> ...I think I can answer that myself. Why are you so concerned with
> that?
>
> I am not concerned about you all but the community and be able also to
> participate.
>
> Is stated somewere in this community that I cannot post some news are
> you all not interested in that? What kind of community is that? My
> interested ranges everything about Ruby.
I think it's more a matter of appearance. Since I missed your initial
postings, I thought for a long time that your updates were purely spam,
but I couldn't see the 'take', as it were. For what it's worth, I do
find some of them interesting, but I'd rather see them as an RSS feed...

> You can classify a post if you want but why do that with the people
> behind?
>
> If you want to know further about me, I am responsible for the
> corporative RUG inside Ericsson and if I am not welcome here please say
> so. For me a user group is about collaboration, but as I can see here
> is that most of you seemed to be arrogant people.
That's a rather harsh judgement to make from, what, four replies?
You're right that a user group is about collaboration, and yet all we've
seen from your address recently is a one-way stream of information
which, because you don't interact in any other threads, leads people
(myself include) to believe that you either aren't interested in, or
aren't capable of, interaction. You've now corrected that :-)

To steer this in a slightly more productive direction, what uses is Ruby
being put to inside Ericsson? How many are involved in the RUG as a
proportion of the developer community? Is it growing?

--
Alex

zoat

10/6/2006 1:00:00 PM

.......for me this is limitating, the abridge email is to handle a
high-traffic mailing and unlike Ericsson KSTool - Google has that.
Collaboration should be something unconditional.

So I do not want to belong in a user group that is wondering all the
time if I am a spambot or not? What are they doing that consider
themselves so important? Anyway this has bothered me already, so I am
disjoining.

Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:25:16 +0900
> "zoat" <enogrob@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is stated somewere in this community that I cannot post some news are
> > you all not interested in that? What kind of community is that? My
> > interested ranges everything about Ruby.
>
> Whilst I generally find it useful at times, bear in mind that this is
> already a high-traffic mailing list when concentrating on ruby matters
> per se. The fact that you're posting fringe snippets in the hope that
> some of us might find it "useful" is a little hit and miss.
>
> If people wanted a "Oooh, look what I've found" mailing list, they
> could use an RSS feed which you yourself could set up. Wouldn't be
> that hard -- I am sure the large organisation you work for knows how to
> do that.
>
> -- Thomas Adam

Martin Coxall

10/6/2006 1:00:00 PM

> If you want to know further about me, I am responsible for the
> corporative RUG inside Ericsson and if I am not welcome here please say
> so. For me a user group is about collaboration, but as I can see here
> is that most of you seemed to be arrogant people.

I'm certainly an arrogant person, but I'm lovely once you get to know me.

As for everyone else, some are arrogant, some are not. The usual range
of human personality types. Don't hold it against us.

Martin

zoat

10/6/2006 1:00:00 PM

James Gray

10/6/2006 1:21:00 PM

On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:00 AM, zoat wrote:

> So I do not want to belong in a user group that is wondering all the
> time if I am a spambot or not? What are they doing that consider
> themselves so important? Anyway this has bothered me already, so I am
> disjoining.

You're angry with us because we wanted to know if you were a live
person??? That seems pretty odd to me.

I read back through this thread and found people saying they like the
service you are providing. A couple of people said they that felt
their might be better ways to share this information, but I do not
feel they were rude in any way.

In your own words, "Collaboration should be something
unconditional." We are now trying to collaborate with you and you
are running off. ;)

James Edward Gray II

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