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[ANN] My book is out -- Ruby on Rails: Up and Running

Curt Hibbs

8/25/2006 2:13:00 PM

The book that Bruce Tate and I co-authored was released yesterday by
O'Reilly --"Ruby on Rails: Up and Running". It is a quick-start guide
expressly designed to get you going with Rails quickly.

The press release is here:

http://press.oreilly.com/p...

and the book page is here:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...

Curt
25 Answers

Dark Ambient

8/25/2006 4:54:00 PM

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Congrats Curt. Question though, why is a quick start guide selling for $30 ?
I tried to see chapter listings on the page but couldn't find.
Is there something more in this book then in the the quick starts
already out on the web ?

Stuart

On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> The book that Bruce Tate and I co-authored was released yesterday by
> O'Reilly --"Ruby on Rails: Up and Running". It is a quick-start guide
> expressly designed to get you going with Rails quickly.
>
> The press release is here:
>
> http://press.oreilly.com/p...
>
> and the book page is here:
>
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...
>
> Curt
>
>

Elliot Temple

8/25/2006 5:09:00 PM

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On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Dark Ambient wrote:

> On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The book that Bruce Tate and I co-authored was released yesterday by
>> O'Reilly --"Ruby on Rails: Up and Running". It is a quick-start guide
>> expressly designed to get you going with Rails quickly.
>>
>> The press release is here:
>>
>> http://press.oreilly.com/p...
>>
>> and the book page is here:
>>
>> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...
>
> Congrats Curt. Question though, why is a quick start guide selling
> for $30 ?
> I tried to see chapter listings on the page but couldn't find.
> Is there something more in this book then in the the quick starts
> already out on the web ?

Hint: It's 182 pages.

Please don't top post.

-- Elliot Temple
http://www.cur...

Greg Donald

8/25/2006 5:13:00 PM

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On 8/25/06, Dark Ambient <sambient@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congrats Curt. Question though, why is a quick start guide selling for $30 ?

Here it is for a bit less:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596101325/sr=8-4/qid=1156525193/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-3918823-70430...

and even less:

http://www.bookpool.com/sm/...

$20 does seem pretty high for a book with less than 200 pages.
Especially since I just picked up Ruby Cookbook brand new from the
used section on Amazon for $31 including shipping, and it's nearly 900
pages.


--
Greg Donald
http://des...

Curt Hibbs

8/25/2006 5:14:00 PM

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I can't answer you on the pricing -- I had nothing to do with that,
but it us *way* more detailed (in both depth and breadth) that than
quick start tutorials on the web. Its also got a really nice quick
reference appendedix that pretty much coveres the entire feature set
with links to more detailed info on the web.

Curt

On 8/25/06, Dark Ambient <sambient@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congrats Curt. Question though, why is a quick start guide selling for $30 ?
> I tried to see chapter listings on the page but couldn't find.
> Is there something more in this book then in the the quick starts
> already out on the web ?
>
> Stuart
>
> On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The book that Bruce Tate and I co-authored was released yesterday by
> > O'Reilly --"Ruby on Rails: Up and Running". It is a quick-start guide
> > expressly designed to get you going with Rails quickly.
> >
> > The press release is here:
> >
> > http://press.oreilly.com/p...
> >
> > and the book page is here:
> >
> > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...
> >
> > Curt
> >
> >
>
>

Brian Moelk

8/25/2006 5:21:00 PM

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Curt Hibbs wrote:
> I can't answer you on the pricing -- I had nothing to do with that,

Is there a way to purchase both the book and pdf in a discounted bundle
like the pragmatic books? Or if the pdf is available at a discounted
rate once the book is purchased?

Thanks,
-Brian

Steve Litt

8/25/2006 5:38:00 PM

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On Friday 25 August 2006 12:53 pm, Dark Ambient wrote:
> Congrats Curt. Question though, why is a quick start guide selling for $30
> ? I tried to see chapter listings on the page but couldn't find.
> Is there something more in this book then in the the quick starts
> already out on the web ?

I can answer that.

My book, "Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist", is 309
pages and sells for $42.50, because lots of people perceive that its info
will save them way more than $42.50 in a few months. Now let's look at Curt's
book:

The press release quotes Curt thusly:

"However, if they want the shortest, easiest way to jumpstart their knowledge
of Ruby on Rails, this book will save them a lot of time."

If that's true, this book is worth a lot more than $30.00.

I need to rewrite all of Troubleshooters.Com's business processes, in Rails,
so that my wife and/or daughter can run the business when I'm out of town.
Rails is a huge, broad, and not always easy topic, and if Curt's book can
help me quickly understand Rails' big picture and get me started designing
and coding my new business processes, it's worth many multiples of $30.00.

I already have "Agile Web Development with Rails", which is worth waaayyyy
more than its purchase price, and has helped me immensely. However, for the
short term I'd like a less comprehensive book with a shorter learning curve.

As far as why it's better than existing web quickstarts, I can compare it to
my Ruby tutorial at
http://www.troubleshooters.cxm/codecorn/ruby/rails/rapidlearning....
My tutorial is great -- for something that was written in 2 days. There are
better web tutorials out there than mine, but I believe most are one man
efforts, probably done with time gleaned from a technologist's free time, not
done as a full time effort.

I bet Curt spent 2 to 9 months writing and helping produce his book. His book
has been independently tech-edited and grammer edited. It's been layed out
professionaly. O'Reilly probably gave him guidelines on style and what to
include, what to leave out, based on O'Reilly's long and intimate knowledge
of what technologists like.

I haven't read Curt's book, so I can't comment on its quality. All I can say
is that if it lives up to its goal of quickly getting someone up to speed on
Rails, and that person has an economic motivation to learn Rails, Curt's book
is worth considerably more than $30.00.

When I saw the press release a few days ago, I was excited and put it on my
list of possible books to buy.

SteveT


Steve Litt
Author:
* Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
* Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
* Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
* Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
* Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com...
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tc...

jmg3000

8/25/2006 9:37:00 PM

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On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> and the book page is here:
>
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...

Interesting. When I first checked the page, there was a pdf available
for purchase, as well as the printed book. Now it's just the printed
book.

---John

James Britt

8/25/2006 10:04:00 PM

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John Gabriele wrote:

>
>
> Interesting. When I first checked the page, there was a pdf available
> for purchase, as well as the printed book. Now it's just the printed
> book.


Ah, well, the PDF version sold out.


:)



--
James Britt

"I never dispute another person's delusions, just their facts."
- Len Bullard

Ed Howland

8/26/2006 12:28:00 AM

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From your StLouis.rb friends, congrats.

How soon do you think Borders will be to carry it?

Ed

On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> The book that Bruce Tate and I co-authored was released yesterday by
> O'Reilly --"Ruby on Rails: Up and Running". It is a quick-start guide
> expressly designed to get you going with Rails quickly.
>
> The press release is here:
>
> http://press.oreilly.com/p...
>
> and the book page is here:
>
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...
>
> Curt
>
>


--
Ed Howland
http://greenprogrammer.bl...

Curt Hibbs

8/26/2006 1:52:00 AM

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On 8/25/06, John Gabriele <jmg3000@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/25/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > and the book page is here:
> >
> > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/...
>
> Interesting. When I first checked the page, there was a pdf available
> for purchase, as well as the printed book. Now it's just the printed
> book.
>
> ---John

I'll bet the PDF isn't ready yet (or they never intended to have it
for this book) and when I reported the problem, they relized the
mistake and pulled it.

Curt