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[OT] OS X Leopard shipping with Rails!

Daniel Schierbeck

8/8/2006 6:32:00 PM

Look under "Internet and Web"
<http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/mor...


This is good news for Ruby and Rails alike!


Cheers,
Daniel
8 Answers

Alex Young

8/8/2006 6:40:00 PM

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Daniel Schierbeck wrote:
> Look under "Internet and Web"
> <http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/mor...
>
>
> This is good news for Ruby and Rails alike!
>
If I'm remembering things correctly, I believe that means that will be
the first Ruby that Apple have shipped which works with Rails out of the
box. Hopefully.

I could be out of date, though...

--
Alex

Matthew Smillie

8/8/2006 6:43:00 PM

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On Aug 8, 2006, at 19:35, Daniel Schierbeck wrote:

> Look under "Internet and Web"
> <http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/mor...
>
>
> This is good news for Ruby and Rails alike!


Until we have to install it all again from source because it's broken
as shipped?

Not to be negative, but the lessons of history and all that.

matthew smillie.

Matt Todd

8/8/2006 6:51:00 PM

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Well, the core guys are working with Apple to make sure it doesn't,
so, I believe this time around they will have learned from their
mistakes.

I'm particularly glad they are shipping it with Rails as a Gem instead
of some other magic. Hoorah for 'gem update'!

:)

M.T.

Francis Cianfrocca

8/8/2006 7:45:00 PM

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Daniel Schierbeck wrote:
> Look under "Internet and Web"
> <http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/mor...
>
>
> This is good news for Ruby and Rails alike!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel


I know I'm just adding two cents here, but this really is incredibly
good news, people. This is a big step toward mainstream acceptance for
Ruby, not just for Rails. Of course it's easy enough to install both
yourself on any OSX box, but the fact that Ruby is being blessed by the
decision-makers at Apple is a serious credibility builder. For just one
example, now you can say "Apple" when someone asks "who else besides you
believes in this Ruby stuff?"

--
Posted via http://www.ruby-....

James Gray

8/8/2006 8:10:00 PM

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On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Francis Cianfrocca wrote:

> Daniel Schierbeck wrote:
>> Look under "Internet and Web"
>> <http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/mor...
>>
>>
>> This is good news for Ruby and Rails alike!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>
>
> I know I'm just adding two cents here, but this really is incredibly
> good news, people. This is a big step toward mainstream acceptance for
> Ruby, not just for Rails. Of course it's easy enough to install both
> yourself on any OSX box, but the fact that Ruby is being blessed by
> the
> decision-makers at Apple is a serious credibility builder. For just
> one
> example, now you can say "Apple" when someone asks "who else
> besides you
> believes in this Ruby stuff?"

Just so we're clear Apple has shipped Ruby with every single version
of Mac OS X from the Public Beta forward. Some were a little old and
some where a little broken, but they have been supporting Ruby for
many years now.

James Edward Gray II

Chris Gehlker

8/8/2006 10:54:00 PM

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On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:10 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> Just so we're clear Apple has shipped Ruby with every single
> version of Mac OS X from the Public Beta forward. Some were a
> little old and some where a little broken, but they have been
> supporting Ruby for many years now.

I don't remember it that way. I think Ruby first showed up in Jaguar.
--
The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a
proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and
oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.
-Paul Valery, poet and philosopher (1871-1945)

James Gray

8/8/2006 11:06:00 PM

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On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:54 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote:

>
> On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:10 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote:
>
>> Just so we're clear Apple has shipped Ruby with every single
>> version of Mac OS X from the Public Beta forward. Some were a
>> little old and some where a little broken, but they have been
>> supporting Ruby for many years now.
>
> I don't remember it that way. I think Ruby first showed up in Jaguar.

Yes, looks like you remember that better than I did. Jaguar does
seem correct.

Still that has Apple shipping Ruby in the last three major revisions
of the OS. We're talking about years of support.

James Edward Gray II

Dave Howell

8/9/2006 3:08:00 AM

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On Aug 8, 2006, at 16:05, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> Still that has Apple shipping Ruby in the last three major revisions
> of the OS. We're talking about years of support.


When I decided I'd outgrown AppleScript, I said to myself "Well, let's
just stick with languages already installed on my Mac. Let's see. PHP,
Python, Perl, and . . . Ruby?"

After only a modest amount of research, I picked Ruby. If it hadn't
been pre-installed, I wouldn't have considered it. (Fat lot of good
THAT turned out to be, sigh.)

[Yes, there's the gcc compiler. I'd already eliminated any language
with a "C" in its name.]