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Loop Timing and Constant Input

Picklegnome

7/29/2006 5:32:00 PM

A few quick questions:

How can I make a loop that runs at, say, 8Hz? That is, every 1/8 of a
second, it executes the loop. I could put a pause at the end of the loop
(what is the syntax for making the script wait a certain amount of time
before continuing?) but this is rather imprecise - I want the loop to take
1/8 of a second, including all processing time.

Secondly, how can I get input from the keyboard without the user pressing
enter? Say, the user is holding "R" and presses "K" while still holding down
"R". Can I get these key presses ("R"s, a "K", and more "R"s), dump them
into a buffer, sort out the unique ones (I know how to do this part) and
pass each of the unique key presses to the appropriate handlers?

Thanks,
Picklegnome
8 Answers

William James

7/29/2006 6:52:00 PM

0

Picklegnome wrote:
> A few quick questions:
>
> How can I make a loop that runs at, say, 8Hz? That is, every 1/8 of a
> second, it executes the loop. I could put a pause at the end of the loop
> (what is the syntax for making the script wait a certain amount of time
> before continuing?) but this is rather imprecise - I want the loop to take
> 1/8 of a second, including all processing time.

span = 1.0 / 8

99.times {
start_time = Time.now
print "."
sleep span - (Time.now - start_time)
}

>
> Secondly, how can I get input from the keyboard without the user pressing
> enter?

"What should I feed my pet?" The answer would depend upon what
kind of pet you have.

"What sort of glue should I use to repair my broken chess piece?"
That may depend upon the material of which the piece is made.

For windoze:

require 'Win32API'
Kbhit = Win32API.new("msvcrt", "_kbhit", [], 'I')
Getch = Win32API.new("msvcrt", "_getch", [], 'I')
def get_key
sleep 0.02
return nil if Kbhit.call.zero?
c = Getch.call
c = Getch.call + 256 if c.zero? || c == 0xE0
c
end

Eric Armstrong

8/1/2006 3:52:00 AM

0

Picklegnome wrote:
>
> how can I get input from the keyboard without the user pressing enter?
>
For a platform independent operation, I recently
began investigating "Curses":

require 'curses'
include Curses

operations to play with:
clear -- clear the screen
addstr -- append text to the buffer
refresh -- display the text in the buffer
getch -- get a character
(compare to ?x, for example, to
test for the letter "x")

I have a getting-started template, but neglected
to push it to the web. Ask me again tomorrow...

So far, I've found two problems with curses:

a) There doesn't seem to be any equivalent for the
windows Kbhit. That's the nice little operation
that lets you ask whether there is a character
in the buffer, and proceed if there isn't any.

b) Examining the Curses API at
http://www.ruby-doc.o..., I found what
can only be described as an embarassing lack of
commentary. Not even one word! And since it's
a wrapper, the implementation code is of no help.
(And curses isn't even mentioned here:
http://www.rubymanual.org/li...)

I can only assume that some form of standard
operational documentation exists on the web.
If so the API doc should point to it, at least.
(It's difficult to find, assuming it exists,
because of all the references to NCURSES. That
seems to be good, but the APIs are a wrapper
for an ncurses.lib, which raises the ugly spectre
of installation issues in my non-standard
location. When I tried that with htree, I got
horrible ".so" not found errors that no one
could help with--so I abandoned htree for another
day.)

Searching on "curses API", I did find these papers:

Curses in Python
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.3/howto/curses/c...

Tutorial on Python Curses Programming
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/Python/Py...

On my solaris box there is also man page for curses,
but it lists dozens of APIs that aren't in the ruby
library--and to find out what they do, you have to look
them up individually.

Still, *nix users have a way to find out what the
APIs are expected to do. Windows users are SOL, unless
someone can point me to a good man-page => html conversion
tool. (The utility I wrote goes in the other direction,
unfortunately.)

Morton Goldberg

8/1/2006 6:09:00 AM

0

I, too, have been looking into Curses. And I agree with what you say
about the difficulty in finding reliable tutorials and documentation.

On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:51 PM, Eric Armstrong wrote:

> b) Examining the Curses API at
> http://www.ruby-doc.o..., I found what
> can only be described as an embarrassing lack of
> commentary. Not even one word! And since it's
> a wrapper, the implementation code is of no help.
> (And curses isn't even mentioned here:
> http://www.rubymanual.org/li...)

I have issues with this web documentation. I'm using ruby 1.8.2 on OS
X and what I see returned from

Curses.methods(false).sort
Curses::Window.instance_methods(false).sort

is not the same as the methods described on the ruby-doc site. I
don't know if the web documentation describes a newer or an older
version than the one I'm using, but it certainly describes a
different version.

> On my solaris box there is also man page for curses, but it lists
> dozens of APIs that aren't in the ruby library--and to find out
> what they do, you have to look them up individually.

You can always use multiple terminal windows or emacs to view
multiple man pages simultaneously.
Emacs lets you save or print formatted man pages for future
reference. On OS X, XCode converts man pages to good-looking HTML.

Regards, Morton

James Gray

8/1/2006 1:41:00 PM

0

On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Eric Armstrong wrote:

> a) There doesn't seem to be any equivalent for the
> windows Kbhit. That's the nice little operation
> that lets you ask whether there is a character
> in the buffer, and proceed if there isn't any.

Would the standard io/wait library work for this? It adds a ready?()
method to IO objects.

James Edward Gray II

Eric Armstrong

8/1/2006 9:52:00 PM

0

James Edward Gray II wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Eric Armstrong wrote:
>
>> a) There doesn't seem to be any equivalent for the
>> windows Kbhit. That's the nice little operation
>> that lets you ask whether there is a character
>> in the buffer, and proceed if there isn't any.
>
> Would the standard io/wait library work for this?
> It adds a ready?() method to IO objects.
>
ooohhhh. Dude! You're giving me chills!

Found the API docs here:
http://stdlib.rubyonrails.org/libdoc/io/wait/rdoc/...

What do I do to use it? This:

require 'io/wait'

Or is it something like this:

require 'io/wait/lib/nonblock'

Once I get the require clause right, that adds
the methods to the IO class.

Then it's a matter of figuring out how to use it
with Curses. I suppose I can do this:

if $stdin.ready? then
c = stdscr.getch
...

Yes?

And speaking of curses...

I found this nicely formatted rdoc site in New Zealand:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/references/ruby/stdlib/libdoc/cu...


The fascinating thing is, it mentions about twice as
many APIs as the standard site: http://www.ruby-doc.o...

The NZ TOC page says it was generated in Summer of 2004,
so it's doubtful that it's for 1.9 (unless the date is
wrong).

I wonder what's going on?

Ara.T.Howard

8/1/2006 9:57:00 PM

0

James Gray

8/1/2006 10:02:00 PM

0

On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Eric Armstrong wrote:

> James Edward Gray II wrote:
>> On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Eric Armstrong wrote:
>>> a) There doesn't seem to be any equivalent for the
>>> windows Kbhit. That's the nice little operation
>>> that lets you ask whether there is a character
>>> in the buffer, and proceed if there isn't any.
>> Would the standard io/wait library work for this?
> > It adds a ready?() method to IO objects.
> ooohhhh. Dude! You're giving me chills!
>
> Found the API docs here:
> http://stdlib.rubyonrails.org/libdoc/io/wait/rdoc/...
>
> What do I do to use it? This:
>
> require 'io/wait'

That's the one, yes.

> Once I get the require clause right, that adds
> the methods to the IO class.
>
> Then it's a matter of figuring out how to use it
> with Curses. I suppose I can do this:
>
> if $stdin.ready? then
> c = stdscr.getch
> ...
>
> Yes?

I would think so, though I have never used curses.

James Edward Gray II

Michael W. Ryder

8/2/2006 10:00:00 PM

0

Eric Armstrong wrote:
> Picklegnome wrote:
>>
>> how can I get input from the keyboard without the user pressing enter?
> >
> For a platform independent operation, I recently
> began investigating "Curses":
>
> require 'curses'
> include Curses
>
> operations to play with:
> clear -- clear the screen
> addstr -- append text to the buffer
> refresh -- display the text in the buffer
> getch -- get a character
> (compare to ?x, for example, to
> test for the letter "x")
>
> I have a getting-started template, but neglected
> to push it to the web. Ask me again tomorrow...
>
> So far, I've found two problems with curses:
>
> a) There doesn't seem to be any equivalent for the
> windows Kbhit. That's the nice little operation
> that lets you ask whether there is a character
> in the buffer, and proceed if there isn't any.
>
> b) Examining the Curses API at
> http://www.ruby-doc.o..., I found what
> can only be described as an embarassing lack of
> commentary. Not even one word! And since it's
> a wrapper, the implementation code is of no help.
> (And curses isn't even mentioned here:
> http://www.rubymanual.org/li...)
>
> I can only assume that some form of standard
> operational documentation exists on the web.
> If so the API doc should point to it, at least.
> (It's difficult to find, assuming it exists,
> because of all the references to NCURSES. That
> seems to be good, but the APIs are a wrapper
> for an ncurses.lib, which raises the ugly spectre
> of installation issues in my non-standard
> location. When I tried that with htree, I got
> horrible ".so" not found errors that no one
> could help with--so I abandoned htree for another
> day.)
>
> Searching on "curses API", I did find these papers:
>

O'Reilly published "Programming with curses" in 1991 if you can find a
copy of the book.


> Curses in Python
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.3/howto/curses/c...
>
>
> Tutorial on Python Curses Programming
> http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/Python/Py...
>
> On my solaris box there is also man page for curses,
> but it lists dozens of APIs that aren't in the ruby library--and to find
> out what they do, you have to look
> them up individually.
>
> Still, *nix users have a way to find out what the
> APIs are expected to do. Windows users are SOL, unless
> someone can point me to a good man-page => html conversion
> tool. (The utility I wrote goes in the other direction,
> unfortunately.)
>
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